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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:43:27 AM   
Real0ne


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to get around the organic laws of the land


what organic laws of our land forbid profit, usury or increase?  And fuck a bunch of yo ho hos and fuckin squids...and first you have to understand, and farmers dont know nothin about the markets or futures or hedging or arbitrage.

Answer the question straightforwardly with laws of our land.


you presume congress has the power to delegate their power to a private organization.

quote it.

you presume that the dollar was not tied to specie

quote it

well they have too to survive in a corrupt system dont they


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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:47:28 AM   
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section 8 powers.   they do not delegate the power, they delegate the labor, fail.

you presume that the dollar is tied to specie, and is not an organic law, fail.

I presume nothing, and you know nothing, fail.

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:49:01 AM   
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FAIL!


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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:49:53 AM   
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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:53:07 AM   
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Ron Paul is the one guy who can do that. 


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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:53:37 AM   
Real0ne


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Status: offline 		well so you want me ot pick your argument for you is that it?

I requested that you cite specifically what you are refering to, and simply stating art 8 is a bit vague.

if you think you got a case make it.

simply stating well duh constitution aint good enough.

so QUOTE IT



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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:57:28 AM   
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to get around the organic laws of the land


what organic laws of our land forbid profit, usury or increase?  And fuck a bunch of yo ho hos and fuckin squids...and first you have to understand, and farmers dont know nothin about the markets or futures or hedging or arbitrage.

Answer the question straightforwardly with laws of our land.





you quote the organic law of the land that forbids it. you are the one who lays claim to all this asswipe, constantly, daily and never a credible citation, always disjointed non sequiturs having nothing to do with nothing.

You quote where it is forbidden to delegate.
You quote where it is required that gold or silver must be coined by a congressman or senators own hand and it is the specie, and only specie exchanged for federal debts.



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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:57:32 AM   
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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 8:59:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, he has been in the congress 79-85, didnt do shit, and since 97 and hasnt done shit, why would he do shit?

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:03:25 AM   
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Well, he has been in the congress 79-85, didnt do shit, and since 97 and hasnt done shit, why would he do shit?


well the rest raised taxes and got us into wars, I would be elated at someone who didnt do shit being in office.


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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:04:53 AM   
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Well, he has been in the congress 79-85, didnt do shit, and since 97 and hasnt done shit, why would he do shit?


Then how would you explain his cult following?    

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:07:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

to get around the organic laws of the land


what organic laws of our land forbid profit, usury or increase?  And fuck a bunch of yo ho hos and fuckin squids...and first you have to understand, and farmers dont know nothin about the markets or futures or hedging or arbitrage.

Answer the question straightforwardly with laws of our land.





you quote the organic law of the land that forbids it. you are the one who lays claim to all this asswipe, constantly, daily and never a credible citation, always disjointed non sequiturs having nothing to do with nothing.

You quote where it is forbidden to delegate.
You quote where it is required that gold or silver must be coined by a congressman or senators own hand and it is the specie, and only specie exchanged for federal debts.




You keep making the same mistake ad hominen.

the constitution enumerates the powers of government.  That means it must be positive coded in the organic law.

it is not

you cannot cite what you claim because it does not exist.

show me positive codification in the organic law of the land that grants the authority you claim.  (to give a PRIVATE ASSOCIATION AUTHORITY TO GOVERN A PUBLIC AFFAIR)



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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:09:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		You need to cite that asswipe with law, which you cannot, epic failure, because I can show you supreme court cases and I have quoted them that says you are as full of shit as a christmas goose, and until they are overturned, they have powers not enumerated.

Burden of proof is on you running this asswipe to back it up, not me to prove your double negatives.

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:11:12 AM   
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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:17:28 AM   
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He's an isolationist and a anarcho-capitalist. Neither works.


This.

He has interesting things to say, I'll definitely give him that. But not a practical candidate.

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:20:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You need to cite that asswipe with law, which you cannot, epic failure, because I can show you supreme court cases and I have quoted them that says you are as full of shit as a christmas goose, and until they are overturned, they have powers not enumerated.

Burden of proof is on you running this asswipe to back it up, not me to prove your double negatives.


so the constitution is not law in your opinion then huh

sure lets see your citation

< Message edited by Real0ne -- 5/13/2011 9:21:29 AM >

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:23:16 AM   
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quote:

He's an isolationist and a anarcho-capitalist. Neither works.


This.

He has interesting things to say, I'll definitely give him that. But not a practical candidate.


on the contrary he is a practical candidate since he is the only one who will try to take the joint in the correct direction for the "people".

besides we need another martyr


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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:23:43 AM   
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quote:

He's an isolationist and a anarcho-capitalist. Neither works.


This.

He has interesting things to say, I'll definitely give him that. But not a practical candidate.



MM,   it is not so much RP per se.   But his ideas which must be in the public debate.

Notice how the financial overhaul--  somehow escaped Glass-Steagall?

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:24:46 AM   
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Well, he has been in the congress 79-85, didnt do shit, and since 97 and hasnt done shit, why would he do shit?


Then how would you explain his cult following?    



You answered your own question. Its bolded.

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RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candida... - 5/13/2011 9:32:16 AM   
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You need to cite that asswipe with law, which you cannot, epic failure, because I can show you supreme court cases and I have quoted them that says you are as full of shit as a christmas goose, and until they are overturned, they have powers not enumerated.

Burden of proof is on you running this asswipe to back it up, not me to prove your double negatives.


ok part 2;

then you agree that the supreme court justices committed treason against the american people.


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