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juliaoceania -> RE: I do not want to have a Muslim mother. (5/15/2011 4:28:31 PM)
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Almost like she was an actual human being with free will, huh, Julia? How enlightened of him!
Poor rich, you just have to try to take stabs at me because you know no one outside of your own ethnic/religious/socio-cultural group, so you have to rely on other people's generalizations and stereotypes to give you the feeling you are somehow informed and cosmopolitan.
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Let's look at this in terms of racial violence and murder in the segretated south, 50-60 years ago. Most people would never dream of participating in such a thing, but there were enough, and there was an institutional culture that permitted and protected such incidents. Oh there were certainly laws that were violated, but there were also medical examiners who might mistake a hangman's fracture for a fall, and juries that just weren't going to convict, no matter what.
Now one can easily Google up some pretty vicious crimes with a racial basis right up to today, but is it legitimate to suggest those carry an equivalency to the prior environment?
I think what we have here is a failure to understand that laws change before cultures do. Sometimes it takes a while for culture to catch up to the law. It used to be common for women to throw themselves on the funeral piers of their deceased husbands once upon a time, for example, but the East India Company changed and enforced a law that prohibited the practice. Eventually it became less and less common... until now it rarely happens anymore at all.
The laws have changed and honor killings are no longer legal. The news links show that this behavior is shocking, or it would not be reported, would it? It must not be a common place thing, or it wouldn't even get a mention.
You know, before you take the splinter out of someone else's eye, you need to remove it from your own.... men murder women all of the time in this country.... it is barely even noticed past the local media most of the time. Domestic violence is a huge problem that still occurs, and until recently not much was done about it. Now, you may not see this as equivalent, but being a woman I sure as hell do, because dead is dead. It doesn't matter much to me whether a man kills a woman to control her or her father and mother do... it is still about control and women being treated as more than dogs, no matter where this treatment is taking place.
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