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thishereboi -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 12:08:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK

then really are they subs

and dommes maybe in charge but really arent they doing it for attention and self indulgence


All the ones I know do it for the money. The like that they can get paid for doing something they enjoy. Kinda like someone who likes to cook will become a chef.




AngelicaGoddess -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 12:09:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK

but Angelica why do you like it

and if you chose to have no clients in a week


You really don't know much, I can take a vacation like anybody else, but it is very unlikely that in a week only undesirables will show up.

Why do I like domination? Because I do, it's my nature. Why do you like it?

And judging from your profile, you seem to be a lot older, yet you think that Pro Dommes and pro subs are a recent thing in the London scene? About 10 years ago I noticed quite a lot in London, what did you do? Wear a blindfold or not leave the house and you did not have a computer?

Makes me question how active you are in the scene, but next time I'm in London, please say hello at an event, or ask one of your friends to introduce you, since you are active in the scene, I assume you go to many events...




MistressOmega -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 2:40:37 PM)

Your right, I know a few submissive females pro & lifestyle and no they do not involve any sexual orientation .. its all about the BDSM, power exchange, humiliation, what ever their aspects and yes it is always discussed before hand and experienced players will always use a safe word.

Miss Omega


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

what they seem to get out of it is money. It's a business.

None of the pro-subs I know have sex or any kind of 'fluid exchange', even of the 'safer' variety - they are there to follow orders and (in their cases) do pain play. But it's all negotiated in advance, and in reality the sub is in charge.

Ditto with the pro-Dommes, I guess, although on the other side of the kneel.







DarkSteven -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 8:34:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK

it just mystifies me thats all

each to their own but for some reason when i see pro it kinda makes me think the logic is screwy

interesting convo

thanks

i guess ladys of the night were most ladys

so things havent changed at all in hundreds of years

germaine greer prob burning here bra in digust lol


Okay, fella.  For all your claimed experience, you seem to be making a very simple, basic mistake.  You are equating BDSM activities with sex.  Dominatrices will flog, whip, and spank for money, but I've never heard of one who will do any kind of sex for money.  That is plain illegal.  It's called prostitution.

I'm not sure why you're mystified.  Surely, since you're a Dom, you understand how topping fills a need.  It fills a need n some people who have estrogen instead of testosterone, too.

And getting paid to do what you like.... why not?

Your Germaine Greer concept mystified me, as though feminism and femdom are mutually incompatible.  There are some female subs who have a conflict resolving being a feminist with liking to get Dominated.  But I've never heard of a Domme with that same problem.




CreepyStalker -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 9:46:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Dominatrices will flog, whip, and spank for money, but I've never heard of one who will do any kind of sex for money.  That is plain illegal.  It's called prostitution.


This raises an interesting question...
In the UK prostitution itself is not illegal, but soliciting it is. Thus if a person were to advertise themself purely as a pro-domme and a customer were to engage with her purely for this purpose, she could then charge him for sexual activity after or during the scene without breaking any laws.
I'm not particularly knowledgeable when it comes to law. Does this loophole work? Do people take advantage of it? I assume it's probably massively impractical to use as a defence if it came to it, still the possibility of it is interesting.




SexyBossyBBW -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 11:01:17 PM)

A couple of days ago, you said asked what's up, the Dommes here seemed to only want someone to love.
What's happened to change your mind to this?! M




myotherself -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/18/2011 11:06:19 PM)

I guess he realised he couldn't afford their fees...




DesFIP -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 4:23:38 AM)

I'm still mystified that he believes there are no male pro-doms. Lots of them in the gay scene. Although the ads I've seen seem to suggest that sex isn't off the table. 




RedMagic1 -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 10:31:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK
and what is so so terrivble bought not knowing stuff doesnt make me any less person

I once wrote a woman on CollarMe.  Her profile said she was looking for a rope expert, and didn't want to talk to anyone who wasn't super good at  it, the end.  In my first email I said I was not very good with rope, but I had skill X and skill Y.

We ended up meeting, and, the first night we met, she handed me a baseball bat and asked me to hit her with it.

Why did she trust me so much?  (Literally with her life.)  Because I had a clear understanding of where I was ignorant, and I was willing to admit it to her.  That way she knew that I would only agree to hit her with the bat if I knew I could do it safely.

That was a very nice night for both of us.

Moral of the story: lie less, and you'll get laid more.




myotherself -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 10:38:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1



Moral of the story: lie less, and you'll get laid more.




That HAS to be Sunny's quote of the day! [:D]




DavidLee44UK -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 10:42:40 AM)

lol red you met me no how you know im not lying

do you know everyone in london

nope prob not

as i said attention whores

just riding on other peoples coat tails

lol

actually my impressions of collarme is its full dictators

i was actually gonna leave but decided to stay now im convinced that this place not worth my time

all nut jobs and if u are real then your so far up your own backside

u must be very proud what youre achieving ill just go makes no shakes to me

u say your dommmes slaves and subs your all vanilla on an ego trip

and u say im the liar good u think im a liar doesnt bother me one iota

the whole site can think me a liar for all i care




RedMagic1 -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 10:53:20 AM)

If you try what I suggest for thirty days, your social life will improve.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 11:16:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK

hey why just not accept that londons a big place and maybe just maybe i havent traveled in the circlesthat you have


London's a big place, sure. The London BDSM scene (you know, that thing you say you've been on for a while)? Not so much, and it's certainly not big enough for you to have been on it for a while without coming across any professionals.

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and what is so so terrivble bought not knowing stuff doesnt make me any less person

i bet know lots stuff you dont

I'm sure you do - I don't know everything, but I don't lie about what I don't know. And not knowing stuff doesn't make you any less of a person, but lying about the things you don't know or haven't done certainly does in my eyes.




GreedyTop -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 11:58:32 AM)

REd.. you've met this dude?




RedMagic1 -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 11:59:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

REd.. you've met this dude?

No.  I think he mistyped.




GreedyTop -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 12:02:53 PM)

ah.. ok




ModTwentyOne -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 2:44:57 PM)

Topic. Not each other.





DarkSteven -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 5:30:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Moral of the story: lie less, and you'll get laid more.



Oh, yeah?  My stories about getting laid are impressive as hell!




ResidentSadist -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 9:29:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
quote:

ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK
then really are they subs

and dommes maybe in charge but really arent they doing it for attention and self indulgence


All the ones I know do it for the money. The like that they can get paid for doing something they enjoy. Kinda like someone who likes to cook will become a chef.

I used manage an escort agency.  A lot of working girls like sex . . . but what they do with their clients is work.  Fucking a bunch of strangers and bolstering their egos about their jobs and listening to their troubles about their wives is . . . well, probably as much fun as dressing strangers up in diapers and acting out the abandonment issues they had with their mommies. 




LadyPact -> RE: pro subs/dommes (5/19/2011 10:02:59 PM)

Using fast reply.......

Take a look through the "professional" section.  There are certainly some male Doms in there, particularly from the UK. 




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