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DesFIP -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 10:27:59 AM)

The other reason dominant women aren't going to hate and despise all submissive women is that they would wind up hating their own mothers, sisters and frequently themselves. Any good mother who cooks and cleans up for her kids since she's doing it not because it gives her any zing but because she wants to please them. So she makes their favorite dessert when they've had a bad day and so on. 




PeonForHer -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 10:30:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

How about for the enjoyment of it? You know the fun you can have running, cycling, inline skating, whatever...


God, yes. Going to the gym feels like a blast of fresh air in my system. I couldn't really do without it, now. People laugh when I say 'It's my day off, so I'm going to take it easy, and go to the gym'.




LaTigresse -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 11:23:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The other reason dominant women aren't going to hate and despise all submissive women is that they would wind up hating their own mothers, sisters and frequently themselves. Any good mother who cooks and cleans up for her kids since she's doing it not because it gives her any zing but because she wants to please them. So she makes their favorite dessert when they've had a bad day and so on. 


Except........I do not correlate being a 'good mother' with pleasing the kids. And, I do not correlate pleasing anyone with being submissive. Wanting to please someone CAN be an act of submission but not necessarily. It very likely could be that good parenting is simply being a responsible, loving parent. And it could be that doing something that pleases someone simply means you care about them and want them to be happy, to feel loved.




LadyConstanze -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 11:27:34 AM)

I agree, I like people to have a good time when they visit, I like cooking and all that, I enjoy it, doesn't make me submissive, it's just that I am a person outside of a BDSM context as well....




Arpig -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 1:02:20 PM)

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The master board has a history of tolerating male supremacists.
Its not so much that we tolerate them VC, the bastards just won't go away.

And to the delightful one's OP....
I have nothing but lust for female submissives. They are the whole reason I am here. Don't get me wrong, the rest of you are all very nice, witty, intelligent, entertaining...but its the damp-pantied sluts I joined the site for.




PeonForHer -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 2:13:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig
Don't get me wrong, the rest of you are all very nice, witty, intelligent, entertaining...but its the damp-pantied sluts I joined the site for.


Me too, though I prefer them haughty and bad-tempered as well.

Should I say at this point that I know it'd be difficult to find a femdom who is like this? Yes, I think I probably should.




GreedyTop -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 2:42:57 PM)

*works on the 'haughty and bad-tempered' bit*

(I sense a FAIL ahead...)




PeonForHer -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 3:59:39 PM)

Oh, don't worry, Greedy. If a woman isn't haughty and bad-tempered to start with, she always ends up like that with me anyway. Win-win! [:)]




sexyred1 -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 5:12:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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The master board has a history of tolerating male supremacists.
Its not so much that we tolerate them VC, the bastards just won't go away.

And to the delightful one's OP....
I have nothing but lust for female submissives. They are the whole reason I am here. Don't get me wrong, the rest of you are all very nice, witty, intelligent, entertaining...but its the damp-pantied sluts I joined the site for.


Is it more slutty if they don't wear panties? [;)]




sunshinemiss -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 5:51:39 PM)

Sunny
Quote of the Day
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Arpig
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Don't get me wrong,
the rest of you are all
very nice, witty, intelligent, entertaining...
but its the damp-pantied sluts I joined the site for.



http://www.collarchat.com/m_3686272/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3691841




GreedyTop -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 5:54:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Oh, don't worry, Greedy. If a woman isn't haughty and bad-tempered to start with, she always ends up like that with me anyway. Win-win! [:)]


*snort*

Um, Ok.. I *might* be able to play it that way for YOU (after I get done licking.. wait.. never mind.. those thoughts should be private... )

*grin*





Arpig -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/25/2011 6:06:29 PM)

Alright!!! I finally got a Quote of the Day!! I am finally part of the popular clique....watch out all you newbies, I'm coming after you now...Muahahahahaha




LadyHibiscus -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/27/2011 6:09:56 PM)

Killing time whilst watching a rerun and went over to the sub male thread on the Master forum.

Appalling. Just fucking APPALLING.

The level of misogyny on these boards is over the top. It's no wonder I stepped back and didn't miss anything. How many hateful people can there be on one website? I know that Fet is drenched with hate and entitlement, but CM has been my on line "home" for so long, I feel more proprietary.

I would say "brainbleach" but there's no point in ignoring evil and dysfunction.

Ugh. ~shudder~ and I only got to page 15!




LaTigresse -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/27/2011 7:49:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Killing time whilst watching a rerun and went over to the sub male thread on the Master forum.

Appalling. Just fucking APPALLING.

The level of misogyny on these boards is over the top. It's no wonder I stepped back and didn't miss anything. How many hateful people can there be on one website? I know that Fet is drenched with hate and entitlement, but CM has been my on line "home" for so long, I feel more proprietary.

I would say "brainbleach" but there's no point in ignoring evil and dysfunction.

Ugh. ~shudder~ and I only got to page 15!



You must have read too much of the unaware one.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/27/2011 8:11:09 PM)

I skimmed large amounts, it went a long way. The Arty sauce didn't help.




Wickad -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/27/2011 8:54:11 PM)

(fast reply)

I believe that anytime anyone bucks the system you will get blow-back.

This means that in our current society (Western Society) men are perceived as Dominant and woman as submissive. Thus when you get either gender not adhering to their specified gender roles you will get resistance. Usually the harshest resistance from those whose very sense of self is wrapped up in this paradigm.

I don't find it surprising that male submissives and female Dominants are hated and loathed on BDSM sites or even in larger society. I do however find it sad.

Wickad




BonesFromAsh -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/28/2011 8:20:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


If you agree with Me, why do you think there is a difference between the genders in this instance?




Society and the roles it expects each person, male and female, to play.

I tried to wear the label of submission, for a whole host of reasons, but came to realize that it was just a classic example of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I admit my experience on that side colors, in many ways, the way I view certain aspects of female submission. However, much as I'm learning to appreciate my own "buck society's expectations" and anti-"good girls aren't the boss" upbringing, I'm learning to accept each individual's choice.

That being said...I agree with sunshinemiss with regards to a loss of self and choice of partners. It's hard for me to respect someone who doesn't respect themselves.




RedMagic1 -> RE: On the flip side - submissive women (5/28/2011 8:34:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
The level of misogyny on these boards is over the top. It's no wonder I stepped back and didn't miss anything. How many hateful people can there be on one website? I know that Fet is drenched with hate and entitlement, but CM has been my on line "home" for so long, I feel more proprietary.

I only read two pages of that thread, made a post, and walked away. I haven't even gone back to see if anyone responded, and i am narcissistic enough that I almost always do.

I only belong to a handful of groups on Fet, but I haven't seen much hate in them. Pomposity, yes. I think it is a matter of deciding where you want to belong, and who you want to talk to. Domiguy and Awareness are correct that the fucked-up to sensible ratio among people with abiding bdsm fantasies is extremely high. You might find that ironic enough to make you snort, but I do believe it is true.




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