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leather protocol - 6/4/2011 10:53:42 AM

oldhippie1954

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what is the proper protocol for wearing leather
as far as gay doms/masters/subs/slaves?
I have heard that wearing leather jeans and leather shirt
and boots is for doms/masters only and that a sub or slave
should only wear a harness or be compleatly bare chested
and maybe leather jeans and boots
or is it something that does not matter?

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 11:05:25 AM

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Roughly, it goes like this.

Cap, vest, and boots are considered pieces of "earned" leather. If you bought any of these items at the store, you should pass on wearing them to a high protocol leather event. Most private or invitation only events will specify a dress code, so you may want to contact the host about that if it hasn't been specified.

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 11:18:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Roughly, it goes like this.

Cap, vest, and boots are considered pieces of "earned" leather. If you bought any of these items at the store, you should pass on wearing them to a high protocol leather event. Most private or invitation only events will specify a dress code, so you may want to contact the host about that if it hasn't been specified.

Ok, on events,but what about just
for everyday wear?

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 11:42:38 AM

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First rule of thumb, always abide by the Master of the House. Some will require a certain type of dress, others won't. You'll find that even leather people will vary on this. For example, I don't require a standard style of dress for serving meals, but others do. My particular stipulation on this one is that I only want a certain type of underwear worn in My home because it's what I like. (Not meaning that's all that he's wearing. I mean under his clothes.) Other than that, it's just jeans and a casual shirt.

If we do something like a high protocol dinner or brunch, I expect him in the standard. White above the waist and dark or black below the waist.

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 12:00:08 PM

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quote:

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First rule of thumb, always abide by the Master of the House. Some will require a certain type of dress, others won't. You'll find that even leather people will vary on this. For example, I don't require a standard style of dress for serving meals, but others do. My particular stipulation on this one is that I only want a certain type of underwear worn in My home because it's what I like. (Not meaning that's all that he's wearing. I mean under his clothes.) Other than that, it's just jeans and a casual shirt.

If we do something like a high protocol dinner or brunch, I expect him in the standard. White above the waist and dark or black below the waist.

Ok,understood that it can depend on
what the rules are as far as what is agreed on
between master and sub or
what ever the Master of the house/event requires then.
btw I have been in contact with a Master who
wants me barechested and in a harness at all times,
it is long distance but at least it is a contact.

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 2:36:36 PM

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Hi Lady Pact and old hippie

LP--what you are describing is a high protocol/old guard tradition. And I agree absolutely that if you are in the service of Household, Master, Mistress, Sir etc. Whatever He or She deems acceptable as the rules of House, well, there you go. If your Sir wants you always barechested and in a harness, then that's your answer. Keep in mind that some clubs have rigid dress codes for the subs, so your "regiment" may have to be adjusted if you go someplace that requires more formality. (i.e. wear a shirt)

However--if you are not in someone's service, there are a number of circumstances in which I believe (as do a number of my peers) that it is perfectly acceptable to wear leathers more casually. These would include motorcycle/club runs, club nights at leatherbars, (I can almost guarantee you that more than half of those men & women bought their own color vests) Quite honestly, those that adhere to the traditional ways are--from my experience--becoming fewer and fewer. I would argue that today if this protocol were rigidly enforced, we'd hardly see any leather out there at all except for a small minority.

But...that wasn't your question really....I digress.
Play parties, leather festivals and "casual" days out--no one is going to pull your leathers off of you for wearing them there. And although you specifically mentioned leather--I find the same holds true for rubber, uniforms, vinyl and other fetish gear. Even formal leather events you will see folks wearing a wide range of leather and fetish gear "off the racks" so to speak.

My skins are very personal to me--and that's probably the case for many people. The only leather item I have that wasn't given or earned was a shirt that was a gift from a local leather shop for winning a title. I typically wear it to formal events where I am not "in service." I know LadyPact appreciates the ritual and traditionals of leather (as do I) but as far as my preferences, I would much rather see folks at a play party in leather "off the rack" and on their dime rather than see people wearing loafers and polo shirts.

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 3:05:25 PM

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so if in service of a master it would be up
to them what you wear and if you are not
in service then anything goes?
btw you mention polo shirts
I do know of some that do
have a fetish for polo shirts

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 3:47:09 PM

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Well, not exactly....since you put it that way.

I believe that for most in the various leather circles today--most, not all--the traditions about what you can wear and where you can wear it, are not rigidly adhered to. It can be a very personal thing--and practices may vary House to House.

If you Master has established a certain dress code, then it is obviously significant and important to him, and hopefully, important and significant to you, if nothing else, by default. If you are NOT in service to someone, but the traditional ways of wearing leather are of important significance to you, then you will likely follow those practices.

I am not old guard. Parts of my leather training were very based in old guard traditions--but a lot of my different training was not, and the new traditions and practices that I adopted are just as important to me as some of the old guard practices. One of those practices--back when I went to my first leather bar, every person in the bar had to be wearing at least three leather pieces--this usually meant boots, a belt and typically a vest, hat or jacket. If a boy had no leathers to wear, he could usually "get away with"--that is, be allowed into the bar--with 501's and a bare chest....or strip to a jock.

I've seen a personal ad once mentioning polo shirts, so I'm not surprised to read there are those who fetishize them. It's just me waxing reminiscent. I prefer play parties and leather bars to have dress codes, even basic ones--and seeing people dressed in pastel polos, cardigans and loafers just screams "tourist" to me--big buzzkill. I'd have no problem if a play party was advertising it was "polo shirt fetish night" as long as I knew that in advance (and could stay home)

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 4:20:51 PM

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I agree with LadyPact it is a preference thing. I like to see my women in open cup or over breast coarsest for house work. And a over breast corset under her close in public. But that for me is so she knows she's always being restrained by me if I'm there or not.

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RE: leather protocol - 6/4/2011 5:12:48 PM

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Ok,that all makes sense
there are not any leather bars in this town were I live
and very few gays around here that I know of
so that is why I'v been serching the net trying to
see if I can make contact with any.
so far there is only one and he is
in Portland Oregon and I am in
Marshfield Wisconsin so you could say
that I am in service long distance
till I find sombody local and
yes he does want me bare chested and harnessed
at all times

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RE: leather protocol - 6/5/2011 5:40:46 PM

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Old hippie....I don't doubt you have a challenge there....I had to google Marshfield Wisconsin to find it on the map.....and I also googled three gay bars in Marshfield or surrounding area....so I really do encourage you to keep looking. Three gay bars in such a small area MUST have some community supporting it. (not saying they are leather friendly, but it's a start...)

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RE: leather protocol - 6/5/2011 9:48:07 PM

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quote:

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Old hippie....I don't doubt you have a challenge there....I had to google Marshfield Wisconsin to find it on the map.....and I also googled three gay bars in Marshfield or surrounding area....so I really do encourage you to keep looking. Three gay bars in such a small area MUST have some community supporting it. (not saying they are leather friendly, but it's a start...)

I'd like to know were those gay bars are
I have not been able to find any.
keep in mind a lot of info on google is
old info but I'll check it out again.

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