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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 3:02:20 PM   
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They can own the RIGHTS to the patent, but not the patent itself.

HAVE SOMEONE READ THIS TO YOU SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY

K.



I have read it, but care to explain why the law states only a NATURAL person can own a patent? It would seem that there must be a difference, since the law is clear, is it the rights to the patent or copyright being assigned?

As I stated before, I know of at least 3 individuals who own the patents to processes they developed, but not the rights to those processes due to the employment agreement with Texas Instruments.

At this point, to me at least, it seems the law contradicts itself.

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 3:24:23 PM   
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I have read it, but care to explain why the law states only a NATURAL person can own a patent?

How about, instead, you support your oft repeated claim that the law says that.

What a concept, eh? Citation please.

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 4:04:24 PM   
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I have read it, but care to explain why the law states only a NATURAL person can own a patent?

How about, instead, you support your oft repeated claim that the law says that.

What a concept, eh? Citation please.

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When someone makes an invention, and does so as an employee of a company, usually the company owns the right to apply for a patent. The exception once again is the United States, where only natural persons may apply for a patent. In the USA, the employee will typically have a clause in his employment contract stating that he assigns all his patent rights to the company. The filing is then done on behalf of the employee, but the rights immediately go to the company.
Crash course on patents: Who can get a patent



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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 4:15:30 PM   
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When someone makes an invention, and does so as an employee of a company, usually the company owns the right to apply for a patent. The exception once again is the United States, where only natural persons may apply for a patent. In the USA, the employee will typically have a clause in his employment contract stating that he assigns all his patent rights to the company. The filing is then done on behalf of the employee, but the rights immediately go to the company.
Crash course on patents: Who can get a patent


An internet "crash course on patents" is not a citation of law. But even so, the phrase "assigns all his patent rights" means "rights, title, and interest." In other words, ownership complete. So let's chalk it up to a mis-reliance on something you read that wasn't altogether clear, and leave it at that. Shit happens. Fair enough?

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 6:00:21 PM   
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You have of course forced me to research just where in hell it says Natural Person in US patent law.

So far, on at least six different sites it says a "Natural Person" must apply for the patent.

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 8:14:15 PM   
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Fair enough.

You have of course forced me to research just where in hell it says Natural Person in US patent law.

So far, on at least six different sites it says a "Natural Person" must apply for the patent.

Don't know about the law but the form is very clear that the inventors have to be natural persons.

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 8:16:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, two thousand pages whatever,  Samid worked for the Government in Maryland, the government got the utility patent, and he got fucked..or not

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 8:21:08 PM   
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Fair enough.

You have of course forced me to research just where in hell it says Natural Person in US patent law.

So far, on at least six different sites it says a "Natural Person" must apply for the patent.


Can a natural person be a Kenyan?

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 9:30:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought I made it clear earlier in the thread. The owner does not have to be a natural person nor does the applicant, but the inventor is always a natural person/persons.

http://www.dww.com/?page_id=1022

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/14/2011 9:35:13 PM   
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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:31:50 AM   
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You have of course forced me to research just where in hell it says Natural Person in US patent law.



aint that a bitch?  Do land law and the treaty of 1783 next! 

You will get the same results!   LOL


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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:33:27 AM   
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Don't know about the law but the form is very clear that the inventors have to be natural persons.


why "person"? Why not "one" of the "people"?  LMAO


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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:38:37 AM   
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OK, two thousand pages whatever,  Samid worked for the Government in Maryland, the government got the utility patent, and he got fucked..or not


What gets lost in all the bullshit static is that the national cancer institute on the record IN COURT on the stand admitted that the treatments work which are nontoxic "simple amino acids".

They hauled him into court and jail (he won at a cost to himself of millions), until they could take out their own patents and get a piece of that action in competition with the "People" so they could license it etc!

Gub by force of your tax dollars compete with people in biz!

read the patents, both burzinskis and the the gubmints who are stealing his patents.

I can hear the fifes tweeting!

Why has this not been blasted all over the news since 1980?

thats it the fifes were tweeting to loud for us to hear the news!  got it!


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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:42:30 AM   
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He worked research for the us government, they showed him inventing it on the patent, and them assignee.

Your proof.  

The rest is buncombe.

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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:44:22 AM   
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Your proof.  



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read the patents,

both burzinskis and the the gubmints who are stealing his patents.

I can hear the fifes tweeting!

Why has this not been blasted all over the news since 1980?

thats it the fifes were tweeting to loud for us to hear the news!  got it!



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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:49:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I invented gold.  I just told you so.  You have proof that I did now. Same with this clown.

If there is a choice between getting it at all right or getting it totally wrong you always choose the latter.  


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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 4:05:51 PM   
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you didnt honestly think I was going to get them for you? 

national cancer institute admitted in court the stuff works and the guv tried to cover it up and then stole the patents.

google is your friend, or have jlf or ken read them to you for a bed time story.  LMAO

you should be thanking sf for posting this.


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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 8:00:28 PM   
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You're 100% correct and this guy belongs in jail for the people that have died and the money he has stolen from this phony treatment. This was on 60minutes several months ago and it was a well produced show.

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Burzynski is a fraud artist. He fakes his data. Otherwise other doctors could replicate his treatments and get similiar results (they have never been able to).


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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 9:13:23 PM   
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So what brain is saying is not only the news media is a fraud but the gubmint is filing false patents.

So if that guy deserves jail then what kind of punishment do you figger the gubmint should get for patenting the same phony technology and procedures? and licensing it no less!!!

Talk ta me man!






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You're 100% correct and this guy belongs in jail for the people that have died and the money he has stolen from this phony treatment. This was on 60minutes several months ago and it was a well produced show.

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Burzynski is a fraud artist. He fakes his data. Otherwise other doctors could replicate his treatments and get similiar results (they have never been able to).







then of course that flies in the face of ALL those lab reports that says it works!  as shown in post 35

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3718128

Now thats one hell of a conspiracy you got going there brain.

The media and the gubmint!  WTG Brain kill 2 birds with one stone!

Here is the link http://vimeo.com/24821365

glad I could help!








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RE: The Great Cancer Hoax: - 6/15/2011 10:45:33 PM   
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You're 100% correct and this guy belongs in jail for the people that have died and the money he has stolen from this phony treatment. This was on 60minutes several months ago and it was a well produced show.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Burzynski is a fraud artist. He fakes his data. Otherwise other doctors could replicate his treatments and get similiar results (they have never been able to).


To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it. ~Voltaire

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