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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:17:22 AM

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Let me see if I got this straight.

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Well any hopes we had of you taking the high road, Artie, just went out the window. Thanks for living up to your potential and reputation.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:21:19 AM

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Come off it Artie, you just cannot resist trying to get the attention to turn to you, you never could. Show me some change on your part and I'll give you the same benefit of the doubt I've given Tammy. I have yet to see it though.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:27:28 AM

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There is one HUGE difference zephyr....

When you left CM, you did so to get your life in order, correct? I don't recall any thread that lasted 39 pages and counting, of you wringing your hands and whining, repeatedly. You had somethings to change, and you did, and you are...it was not made into a monumental event.

Of course, I don't think anyone here hopes Tammy will fail, but the odds are not in her favor. Since she is a habitual liar, the truth will never be known. Even in this thread, it became evident that important facts were left out, or twisted to sound like it was all peaches and cream. Too many untruths, too many imagined happily after afters, for reality to ever sink in.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:33:54 AM

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That's true Lisa, I'm not the type to put my private life online. What I do see is that Tammy has made changes offline and that's what I'm trying to encourage while staying away from the drama on this thread.

Hey maybe I'm wrong and this will end up biting me in the butt. I'm willing to take the chance and hope that the seeds of change she has planted will take root.

What I do know is that continuing to say "you have done this in the past, you aren't going to change" is no productive. So I'm not going to engage in it. My life at present is remarkably clean of drama, I'm not letting it in.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:43:52 AM

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See now Tammy, this is why some people have issues with you. No one ever taught you how to communicate, certainly not in a manner with any degree of transparency. Let's take a look, shall we???

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I know one girl who works two days a week all day long (mind you), does only microdermabrasions... and banks almost 150,000 a year.

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Nope cali i know exactly what she brings in, two days a week all day long..... 150,000 per year... now im not saying i would get that lucky, but yeah and i do have a heads up on most trying out for the position...........see about three pages ago if you even want to go there

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she is selling not only high end products but JI makeup as well..... i know what she makes..... and i printed some rather large checks to our aestheticians, so yes she makes that much working only two days a week.

You said "only microdermabrasions". No one in Tennessee makes $350 plus per hour working for someone else doing buff&fluffs, since the average price IN YOUR STATE is around $100 per hour to the client. Then you changed it to include selling high end products and makeup.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:45:09 AM

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That's true Lisa, I'm not the type to put my private life online. What I do see is that Tammy has made changes offline and that's what I'm trying to encourage while staying away from the drama on this thread.

Hey maybe I'm wrong and this will end up biting me in the butt. I'm willing to take the chance and hope that the seeds of change she has planted will take root.

What I do know is that continuing to say "you have done this in the past, you aren't going to change" is no productive. So I'm not going to engage in it. My life at present is remarkably clean of drama, I'm not letting it in.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 9:45:32 AM

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Am I the only one who finds it pretty strange that Art didn't make an appearance until someone mentioned him in a positive light? Almost like fucking magic aint it?

eta I mean it is almost like tammy has control of him, and couldn't let him be seen that way.........

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:01:56 AM

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Let me see if I got this straight.

I tricked this helpless family into living in my house so I could pretend I was something I'm not.

I made their lives miserable with my endless pet peeves like insisting the kitchen be kept clean.

I took their money, more than all of it and I then took the children's lunch money.

They choose to leave in two weeks on their own because...well it's plain for all to see, is it not...It's because I am such a worthless man and poor excuse of a Dom and naturally no one would call me a master.

My house has bugs. I read that here so it must be true.

I should give them some money and support as they wave bye bye or I'm not a decent man and Dom

I forced them to leave on short notice in two weeks without anything, oh wait, they chose to leave, oh wait, I ...I'm so confused.

Let me be plain. None of you know under what circumstance tam came here and will soon leave. None can know the total depth and intensity of our relationship and the challenges we faced together while living the very good and not so good times during the last three years dating ending in the last year here together at our home. None of you know exactly why tam is leaving.

For those of you who offered well intentioned advice and stayed away from meaningless drama, conjecture and self serving platitudes, let me thank you.

I wish you all well.
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Arturas,
I pretty much believe that you have asked Tammy to leave.

I also know that you had unreasonable expectations. Someone was here on the forums and told you you were going to lose her. You told them they were wrong.
Instead you told us how wonderful and amazing Tammy was, bravely soldiering on.

People made various suggestions to you regarding hired help and automatic dishwashers. You could have actually looked into that...instead you told her that for punishment she would have to get rid of the cats.

I am not sorry she is leaving. I think you meant well and tried to do okay by her. The problem is you are kind of deluded about what it means to own someone else.
You don't just own them just when you want to put on a great scene at your local club or when it is time to suck your cock.
Ownership denotes responsibility. Maturity is part of being responsible, Arturas.
Problem-solving skills is part of maturity and too much of what you (not Tammy) presented was that this was not your mutual problem but her problem... and you expected her to solve it without your help.
It was not her issue; it should have been a "we" issue.

When Tammy leaves you are going to have other problems, because no matter where you go, there you are... and you will not be able to blame her.

So, standard answer applies: go seek out a kink aware therapist before you toss your unreasonable expectations onto someone else. (Hint: expecting a clean house was not unreasonable, Art. Expecting her to be able to deliver that with her limitations was, especially if you did not develop a strategy to help her.)

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:06:04 AM

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Damn Miss Jellie, just when I thought I couldn't possibly love you more.!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:21:59 AM

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Damn Miss Jellie, just when I thought I couldn't possibly love you more.!

Isn't it the truth? Knowing Jellie is truly a highlight of being on CM!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:23:12 AM

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:34:21 AM

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One always travels the high road when speaking and living in truth.

You might want to actually give that a try one day, Art. Your word is about as good as using a wooden nickle to buy a cupa at Starbucks.

While you're at it, you might want to rethink your "How to train a kajira in 4 days" method cuz, yanno, that didn't work out so well for ya.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:35:28 AM

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Yes it is but so is being one of Hibbie's Hotties.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 10:36:59 AM

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smooches Hibbie, feeling the love and sending it your way!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 11:06:50 AM

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I was hoping Art would take the high road, but it would be kind of hard with all the gory details of your personal life slapped all over the internet. On the other hand, look at the bright side buddy, you are getting the crazy bitch out of your house.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 11:10:41 AM

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I was hoping Art would take the high road, but it would be kind of hard with all the gory details of your personal life slapped all over the internet. On the other hand, look at the bright side buddy, you are getting the crazy bitch out of your house.

Art has done more than his fair share of freely sharing details with us over the years.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 11:18:45 AM

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I am sure he has. What a mad house that place must be!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 11:27:13 AM

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yeah I'm pretty in awe of this thread.

Though I'm not the type to share any of my personal drama at all online...just not that open of a person I guess. I keep vacillating between wanting to help and just soaking in the train wreck.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 11:30:06 AM

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Personally I find that trying to help gives me greater satisfaction than wading into the drama. Drama is fun for a while but tends to seep into my own life, which is currently almost completely drama free.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/12/2011 11:35:03 AM

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I think you meant well and tried to do okay by her. The problem is you are kind of deluded about what it means to own someone else.
You don't just own them just when you want to put on a great scene at your local club or when it is time to suck your cock.
Ownership denotes responsibility. Maturity is part of being responsible, Arturas.
Problem-solving skills is part of maturity and too much of what you (not Tammy) presented was that this was not your mutual problem but her problem... and you expected her to solve it without your help.
It was not her issue; it should have been a "we" issue.