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ORIGINAL: Lashra

My sub's ex wife/slave threatened to do this if he didn't pay her alimony. He of course paid in order to stay out of going to court and having the situation get really messy. He was husband number 3 for her and when they were dating she often would tell him how *abusive* husbands 1&2 were. I personally think she uses the abuse card as a lame duck to get men to feel sorry for her.
Last I heard she moved back to OH and joined some S&M club up there, she needs to have a sign stapled to her forehead "Liar, manipulator and I will out you in court"

~Lashra

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ORIGINAL: MsShiva


Here's one way to cover your ass...whether the agreement is long-term or short term.

DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT!

There should be a written agreement that both parties will not disclose any information regarding their alternative activities.  This includes in the case of divorce, forced alimony, and especially when it comes to the custody of children.  Everything must be CLEARLY stated with no room for loopholes.

It should be stated that if one party request money, other items or other demands reasonable or otherwise would be DECLARED BLACKMAIL.  

Both parties must also agree not to reveal or give hints about the alternative lifestyle to family, friends, co-workers, and employers.  The agreement MUST clearly state that only parties who have signed the agreement are the only parties knowledgeable about the activities.

If family members and/or friends are aware of your activities, you need to state in the disclosure their names. Munches and groups are not necessary.

If the contract is broken and the activities are revealed, then the person breaking the contract will be liable for loss of wages, court costs, or any other financial compensation.  Even if the person is not wealthy or financially fit, you can go after their wages.

It should also be stated that if children are involved the person revealing alternative activities acted in a malicious manner without any regarding to the children's mental/emotional well-being and privacy, and immediately forfeit FULL custody of the children.

As far as the case where a sub/slave felt as though they were or were ACTUALLY abused...well in the terms of contract what is DECLARED, as abuse is MUST BE INCUDED!!!

This is way to protect you.  It is not an unreasonable request, and it not only protects you, the agreement also protects the sub/slave from Unethical Dominants.

OOOOOOh yeah...include in the contract that the person was not coerced or forced into signing the agreement.  Hell, I even request verbal confirmation of the contract for additional security purposes.

Well.... If the person is not willing to sign the agreement...

F***K em!

In the case of two people deciding to get married or already married, I would have the agreement reviewed by an attorney and clearly inform the person signing it, although the slavery part of the contact is not binding in court...the other parts are.

Once again its called a DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.

One would say this is EXTREME....

But as My husband states (in a loving way)...I am just anal enough to go that far...that's why he always have Me read agreements...I look for what they say and don't say. I should state I am a fine-print-aholic. 

YES I HAVE EXTREME ANAL TENDENCIES!

I am not an attorney...but I should of been if I knew I was going to be addicted to fine print...lol

I hope I was able to help!

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ORIGINAL: MsShiva

OOOOOOh yeah...include in the contract that the person was not coerced or forced into signing the agreement.  Hell, I even request verbal confirmation of the contract for additional security purposes.

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ORIGINAL: vinylkity111
...I'll never understand what prompts someone to betray her Master in this manner - to expose the nature of their relationship, the terms of their contract...

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ORIGINAL: CrescentLuna

Would such a disclosure agreement even be legally binding if it came down to it in a court? I mean, sure you can sign something saying that you have been in no way coerced and were not intoxicated/drugged at time of signing - but a clever lawyer could probably argue that no reasonable person would sign something like that willingly. Nor does it seem like a contract like that can cover illegal activities; and I'm not trying to argue that BDSM should be illegal, but if a former spouse is claiming it wasn't "punishment" but "abuse" I don't think the contract could protect you from having every activity gone over in court.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo


I dont know about other states, but I can tell you in NJ, the court doesnt care about a couples personal life.  Adultery, bdsm, drug use,  even physical abuse does not play a part in the economics of the divorce.  The court wont even *hear* it.  The system would be so jammed up with he said she said and trying to prove what amounts to nothing more than back and forth bickering. There are certain criteria that make a spouse eligable for alimony or not.  Most divorces are now stamped as "duel fault".  A court will not determine who is at fault and then assign alimony or no alimony accordingly. They either fall into the criteria to receive alimony or they dont.  Maybe this guy was faked out and paid more than he had to because he was scared.  Most divorce cases arent even decided by the court.  the couple works out what they each want, and it sounds like this guy may have been fooled