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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

You are right, you are dumb in my eyes.  There is a local hospital just down the street from me.  EVERYDAY the emergency room is filled with hispanics.  They are ALL illegals.  CAT Scans for the nondescript headache, thousands of X-rays, dozens upon dozens of upper and lower GI's....hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical testing to have someone leave with Tylenol or Nexium or some other product.  Who does it get paid by?  The taxpayers.

Classrooms full of illegal aliens.  They don't pay property taxes but the schools in New Jersey are funded by property taxes.  So there are teachers teaching children whose parents pay nothing towards the system.  There are school superintendents employed, principals, vice principals, assistants to principals and vice principals.  All of these people getting paid by tax dollars.

There are cops...what do they get paid by, genius?....tax dollars.  The cops go out and arrest illegals.  The illegal aliens do not do anything that contributes to the burdensome expense of law enforcement.  But the cops go arrest them.  Sometimes the cops get injured and go out on disability costing us even more money.  But the job has to be done and the cops have to be paid and the kitty that they get paid from does not get contributed to.

There are corrections officers that watch the people the cops arrest.  They manage them.  They make sure they are fed.  They make sure they are in lock down.  They make sure they are not rioting.  They make sure they are brought to the hospital wing.  Sometimes the corrections officers get hurt also by these illegal alien prisoners and they too go out on disability.  That, of course, costs us even more.

There are Judges, public defenders, prosecutors, clerks and more that process these illegal alien prisoners through the system.  All of these people get paid from......what?  Put your fucking coffee down and think about it.  Tax dollars, genius.  TAX DOLLARS!  The taxes that the illegals do not pay is what goes to pay these people.

There is ICE and ICE sometimes puts detainers on these illegal aliens.  ICE has its own officers.  When the illegal alien is done with the court process on the State level, they are brought to ICE which deals with them further.  All of these people are paid by what?  Smart guy?  What?  ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh taxes....that's right.

What I just outlined is a small part of the criminal process.  But there are other branches of government that deal with these people everyday.  They lose their children through neglect or abuse just like any other group.  That causes the involvement of the Division of Youth and Family Services......their people paid by tax dollars.  There may be removal hearings that may involve the State Attorney Generals Office.  Those people are paid with tax dollars.

If there is a fire, who puts it out Oh Brilliant One?  Oh, I know, firemen and they get paid by tax dollars.

Who collects their garbage?  Let me give you a clue the first word is Garbage...  The garbageman collects their garbage and what does he get paid from?  Riiiiiiiight....taxes.

I can do this all day.  You are too dumb for me to waste the time on.  THAT is the problem.  I'm not hear to do your thinking for you.  If you are this dumb at this age, then we all suffer because you don't think deep enough to ever make a wise decision.

Oh...genius....what do hunters and fisherman pay in order to hunt or fish?  Ahhhhhh...yeah....permits.

You whine like a retarded schoolgirl that I am picking on soft targets (actually I retract that because that was terribly unfair to retarded schoolgirls).  I have picked on ALL targets.  How hostile our work environment has become to manufacturing, confiscatory income taxation, military incursions into places where we have no vital, national interest.  I have picked on all targets....and here is where I pick on you.  You are dumb.  You are intellectually unethical (because you can see where I have picked on the other targets).  You don't think.  You do NOTHING to advance a solution to any problem.  You want the status quo while the country burns.

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I note you didnt even try to defend your lie about 35 million illegals.

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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I note you didnt even try to defend your lie about 35 million illegals.

Not that this is what he's doing but I don't answer things on a regular basis because I don't find any validity in what was said. I ignore and move on to the parts I want to talk about.

So what you said isn't a guaranteed indicator of anything.

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You can ignore whatever you wish

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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I note you didnt even try to defend your lie about 35 million illegals.

Not that this is what he's doing but I don't answer things on a regular basis because I don't find any validity in what was said. I ignore and move on to the parts I want to talk about.

So what you said isn't a guaranteed indicator of anything.

He made the claim of 35 million illegals. I called B/s and posted a link to a figure. Im waiting for a reply from him or anyone else confirming that figure. You can ignore whatever you wish, but to me such an outrageous claim needs to be challenged.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Both numbers are bullshit.

The Department of Homeland Security reported that illegal immigrant population dropped to 10.8 million in 2009 compared to 11.6 million in 2008. It was the second consecutive annual decline and the largest in at least three decades.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/11/national/main6197466.shtml

Yeah, plenty of people have their made-up numbers on their blogs.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Both numbers are bullshit.

The Department of Homeland Security reported that illegal immigrant population dropped to 10.8 million in 2009 compared to 11.6 million in 2008. It was the second consecutive annual decline and the largest in at least three decades.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/11/national/main6197466.shtml

Yeah, plenty of people have their made-up numbers on their blogs.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

You are right, you are dumb in my eyes.  There is a local hospital just down the street from me.  EVERYDAY the emergency room is filled with hispanics.  They are ALL illegals.  CAT Scans for the nondescript headache, thousands of X-rays, dozens upon dozens of upper and lower GI's....hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical testing to have someone leave with Tylenol or Nexium or some other product.  Who does it get paid by?  The taxpayers.

Classrooms full of illegal aliens.  They don't pay property taxes but the schools in New Jersey are funded by property taxes.  So there are teachers teaching children whose parents pay nothing towards the system.  There are school superintendents employed, principals, vice principals, assistants to principals and vice principals.  All of these people getting paid by tax dollars.

There are cops...what do they get paid by, genius?....tax dollars.  The cops go out and arrest illegals.  The illegal aliens do not do anything that contributes to the burdensome expense of law enforcement.  But the cops go arrest them.  Sometimes the cops get injured and go out on disability costing us even more money.  But the job has to be done and the cops have to be paid and the kitty that they get paid from does not get contributed to.

There are corrections officers that watch the people the cops arrest.  They manage them.  They make sure they are fed.  They make sure they are in lock down.  They make sure they are not rioting.  They make sure they are brought to the hospital wing.  Sometimes the corrections officers get hurt also by these illegal alien prisoners and they too go out on disability.  That, of course, costs us even more.

There are Judges, public defenders, prosecutors, clerks and more that process these illegal alien prisoners through the system.  All of these people get paid from......what?  Put your fucking coffee down and think about it.  Tax dollars, genius.  TAX DOLLARS!  The taxes that the illegals do not pay is what goes to pay these people.

There is ICE and ICE sometimes puts detainers on these illegal aliens.  ICE has its own officers.  When the illegal alien is done with the court process on the State level, they are brought to ICE which deals with them further.  All of these people are paid by what?  Smart guy?  What?  ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh taxes....that's right.

What I just outlined is a small part of the criminal process.  But there are other branches of government that deal with these people everyday.  They lose their children through neglect or abuse just like any other group.  That causes the involvement of the Division of Youth and Family Services......their people paid by tax dollars.  There may be removal hearings that may involve the State Attorney Generals Office.  Those people are paid with tax dollars.

If there is a fire, who puts it out Oh Brilliant One?  Oh, I know, firemen and they get paid by tax dollars.

Who collects their garbage?  Let me give you a clue the first word is Garbage...  The garbageman collects their garbage and what does he get paid from?  Riiiiiiiight....taxes.

I can do this all day.  You are too dumb for me to waste the time on.  THAT is the problem.  I'm not hear to do your thinking for you.  If you are this dumb at this age, then we all suffer because you don't think deep enough to ever make a wise decision.

Oh...genius....what do hunters and fisherman pay in order to hunt or fish?  Ahhhhhh...yeah....permits.

You whine like a retarded schoolgirl that I am picking on soft targets (actually I retract that because that was terribly unfair to retarded schoolgirls).  I have picked on ALL targets.  How hostile our work environment has become to manufacturing, confiscatory income taxation, military incursions into places where we have no vital, national interest.  I have picked on all targets....and here is where I pick on you.  You are dumb.  You are intellectually unethical (because you can see where I have picked on the other targets).  You don't think.  You do NOTHING to advance a solution to any problem.  You want the status quo while the country burns.

More racist bullshit, but thanks for the laugh. I note you didnt even try to defend your lie about 35 million illegals. So I want ask for proof that your local hospital does thousands of X-rays daily. The only way you defended your claim was to post more vitriol and bluster.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkbo


He thinks we are not sophisticated enough to understand physcal policy.

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway



You are calling me a racist.  I am calling you an idiot fool.  The difference between us is that I am right.  "If" my number is wrong, the rest of what I have posted is unassailable.  Now...what is a racist, idiot?  A racist is someone who believes that their race is inherently superior to another race or that some race is inherently inferior to their own.  There is nothing in my post that is racist.  THAT MAKES YOU AN IDIOT FOOL WHO DOESN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF RACISM.

Now...what you are going to do is go whine to Owner59 and say "Locked called me a name again!"  Go ahead.  You are a stupid, idiot fool who doesn't know or understand the definition of the words he uses.  Have a nice night *&^% for brains!

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Where & how does homeland security get its numbers from?

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Who gives a fuck what homeland security says????????? In 2005, Bear Sterns had a report made to estimate the number of illegal aliens in the country. Their report came back at 15-20 million.

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You know Locked, the problem with you is you cannot post without insults

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Where & how does homeland security get its numbers from?
Point is, there's a source, and whatever the methodology (feel free to research it), it's not just a bullshit made-up number.

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In 2005, Bear Sterns had a report

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Marini
Well, I am a home owner so I get a few pennies back on that.
I went and got my current pay stub, I pay AT LEAST 30%-34% , of my yearly income
on Federal , State, and Property taxes.
**Also in Northern Virginia you also pay a Car tax!!!



Do you think I should just go ahead and pay 50% in taxes?
How much is fucking enough?

you also pay between 42 - 50 cents per gallon gas tax

I dont know what the natural gas tax is for heating

you pay for fcc tax on your phone plus transaction taxes

you pay 5 - 6 % on all goods you buy

all licenses are taxes

all insurance that is a "public" requirement is a tax.

anything required by the public, ordinance statute whatever is a tax.

just to name a few


the biggest kick in the ass is that the only way they can do this is to convert you to full corporate status with out limited corporate liability.

So forget being a Wo/Man cuz you all been fully fictionalized!

pay up or they come after you with guns and if you add up every tax you pay it would be about 70%, if not you missed something.

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Marini
Well, I am a home owner so I get a few pennies back on that.
I went and got my current pay stub, I pay AT LEAST 30%-34% , of my yearly income
on Federal , State, and Property taxes.
**Also in Northern Virginia you also pay a Car tax!!!



Do you think I should just go ahead and pay 50% in taxes?
How much is fucking enough?

you also pay between 42 - 50 cents per gallon gas tax

I dont know what the natural gas tax is for heating

you pay for fcc tax on your phone plus transaction taxes

you pay 5 - 6 % on all goods you buy

all licenses are taxes

all insurance that is a "public" requirement is a tax.

anything required by the public, ordinance statute whatever is a tax.

just to name a few


the biggest kick in the ass is that the only way they can do this is to convert you to full corporate status with out limited corporate liability.

So forget being a Wo/Man cuz you all been fully fictionalized!

pay up or they come after you with guns and if you add up every tax you pay it would be about 70%, if not you missed something.

Last year, between Federal, State and property taxes, I paid 44% of my income.  That, of course, doesn't include the myriad other taxes that we pay for gasoline, telephone, cable, utilities, etc.  AND O'scumbag wants to end the mortgage interest deduction which is the only deduction most families have aside from the dependent deduction.