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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 3:49:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld
You should have done the rational thing and set up a date. Just before his arrival you should have contacted the G/F and invited her to watch and read the printed conversations.
I like this idea best, along with Najakcharmer's.  I'm not satisfied with the responses basically indicating that it is no big deal when people deceive you online, and that you should be so psychologically together, that you'll be unafected by it.  I think all of us wasting any moment of our lives in front of a computer, are vested on some level.  

No you shouldn't interfere with his life because nothing you do to him will make you feel better about the fact that there are liars in the world.   The only advice I have is to try and curtail online interactions, because it's slightly harder (and I mean slightly) for someone to continue lying when you begin to deal with them face to face.   M




WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 3:49:31 PM)

If you must, tell his girlfriend, then do so. After that, let the matter drop, dont try to interfere with his business or make any of his other associates aware of his 'hobby', its none of their business anyway. Also trying to mess with his business could get you sued....

I think the smarter thing todo, is ignore this guy and move on...




ladylexington -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 6:51:56 PM)

I don't think I'd go to all the trouble of ruining his life. Steal his girlfriend, well maybe...[;)]




LadyMorgynn -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 8:17:32 PM)

Personally?  I would have sent his g/f a copy of every email and every IM chat (yes, I always keep *everything*), and THEN put him on Ignore.  If he had other close friends listed on his myspace, I might send copies to them too, just because he pissed me off.  But that would be in the heat of the moment, and I'd be glad I did it.  Because if I waited, I wouldn't be able to do it, 'cause it's so mean, and not nice and so forth.  Like the difference between justifiable and premeditated, ya know? LOL.  Really. 

This stalking stuff you're describing, though, is for the birds.   Yeah, my motto is Don't get back... GET EVEN.  But then, you know what??? I you're gonna do it, DO IT.  Then just walk away and forget about it, them, and the whole thing.  Wash your hands of it.  Get over it, and move on with your life.  Hanging on isn't hurting anyone but yourself, and the more you hang on like that, the more dangerous you become to yourself. 

Just one last little note about the g/f.  If I sent copies of things to her, it would be as much so that she would know, as to get back at him.  If I had a b/f who was cheating on me, I would WANT to know, no matter how bad it hurt.  Been there with my husband, and AFTER he took off with the other woman, all my "friends" told me how they knew but didn't want to tell me.  Like, they thought they were saving me grief or something, when he would up moving in with the next door neighbor when I was six months pregnant with our child????  Hell with that.  The wife or g/f or S.O. whatever she's called, has a RIGHT to know.  What she does with it then, that's on her, but at least my conscience would be clean.




littlesarbonn -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 8:47:49 PM)

I am always shocked and surprised at how many people lie in potential relationships. I don't know how they keep all the lies together. I mean, I have enough trouble keeping the truth together on my end that I'd fall completely apart if I had to add lies to my conversations. The only time I've ever lied in a relationship was to downplay something, like when I was dating a woman in South Korea, and rather than try to explain what being a counterintelligence agent meant, I told her I was the guy who picked up trash on the post. In a way, even that wasn't too much of a lie.




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 9:04:51 PM)

I can and have been a vindictive little bitch,when absolutely needed.

***However,I would not have called him,I would have done the email and let him know in the letter what info I have.

When I was threatened by someone I turned down ,he was going to the Town Selectmen(he lives in My town),I wrote to him and told
him to go for it because I have on discs every conversation W/we had ever had.I had proof that he asked Me to tie him up.
I had nothing to lose,My boss knows  My personal life doesnt effect the way I work.I asked him if his boss would feel the same?
Would his wife like to know what he tried to get Me to do to him?My slave bishop doesnt care so again nothing to lose there either.
Not to mention what would all his friends in town think.

The mere thought I had that info kept him from  saying anything and I havent heard from him again.
But to be on the safe side...I kept all My info on him.

I have to admit just knowing that I can do more harm to him than he can too Me is more than enough satisfaction.
I see no reason to make someones wife and kids pay for the sins of the husband.
What goes around comes a round...It may take awhile...but it will come.


***My personal opinion only.




LoneGoddess -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 10:02:58 PM)

I had something like this happen once (5 years ago), a three month "relationship" online that I didn't see happening. He sent me a photo with his real name on it, and when he started acting differently, only calling me at certain times, I knew. I looked up his address in his town, and mailed him an "I love you" care package, complete with letter, music and photos, and a collar of consideration and gates of hell. I got a phone call from his wife a day after I sent it (the mail is that fast for our two towns, even at 175mi away). Needless to say, I was hurt but not devastated, but his wife, a very nice person really (whom he had told me he was divorced from years earlier) was rather freaked out. Gee, finding out your husband is a submissive and trying to replace you with a Domme, isn't fun I suppose, but, he lied. Had he not lied, and had been above board, a nice sub would've gotten a nice care package from his Domme, not a nice wife devastated. He apologized to me a week later via email... I dare say his wife wasn't happy, he told me she was divorcing him now. Another lie? Probably.

LG~




ArchangelMichael -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 10:49:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

He's a liar.  You are a deciever.  You "cache" his chats without telling him. You google him 9 ways to Sunday and cyber stalk him.  Oh, and you don't bother to post a profile on CollarMe, a further indication that you two are peas in a pod.  I bet you'd be very happy with him.  You share the same vacuous moral code.


Some programs, like Trillian and ICQ, automatically cache conversations. Basically, if you chat with anyone online using a chat program, you should assume that the conversation will be saved on their computer.




MsMacComb -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/18/2006 10:52:50 PM)

 Grow up and move on with your life.




BitaTruble -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/19/2006 1:39:40 AM)

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I'm not looking for advice. And I certainly don't want to be lectured. I'm just curious how others would react to the same scenario.


I'd have hung up the phone, ignored your emails and made my profile private, too. You're scary, vindictive and scornful. You want to crucify the guy. Didn't you ever hear the term "let the punishment fit the crime".. you are WAY over the line. You need to get a thicker skin if you can't handle some piddly shit like a cyber liar.

... and it really ticks me off that you have the screenname you do, too! [sm=crop.gif]

Celeste




mons -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/19/2006 2:39:48 AM)

greeting to all

I say do nothing leave him alone, there is an olds
saying" what goes around comes around" he will
do this again but do not let it be you the one who
goes off one him. Some other women will. He is not worth
it. I think you wrote you letter in anger and you wanted to
get his off of your chest it is off now, move on we Dommes
have to much respect to lower ourselves to hurt an person who
had nothing to do with what he has hide from her, that dog she will find out sooner then later
what she has

best wishes
mons/jane




doug100f -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/19/2006 10:56:18 PM)

Ignoring is the ultimate cruelty to a sub




Emperor1956 -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/20/2006 9:45:54 PM)

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Some programs, like Trillian and ICQ, automatically cache conversations. Basically, if you chat with anyone online using a chat program, you should assume that the conversation will be saved on their computer.


You can disable the automatic cache feature of every chat program.  You are absolutely correct that -- absent being told otherwise by an honest person -- you should assume that every online conversation is being recorded.  My point is that a person with integrity will disable that feature, or immediately advise anyone they chat with that they are recording the conversation.  The OP made it clear that she surreptitiously recorded all the chats in question, and had no qualms about later using that information to hurt the other party.

E.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/21/2006 1:22:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956
You are absolutely correct that -- absent being told otherwise by an honest person -- you should assume that every online conversation is being recorded.  My point is that a person with integrity will disable that feature, or immediately advise anyone they chat with that they are recording the conversation.  The OP made it clear that she surreptitiously recorded all the chats in question, and had no qualms about later using that information to hurt the other party.
E.
How about a person with integrity not lie so that he can later be shown to be a liar.
You're blaming her for wanting to use his word against him?    Listen, I don't think she should waste her time trying to get back at him.  I suppose on some level, I think it is her giving her power away by resorting to hurting someone else in order to get back at him, so I wouldn't do it.   But I certainly don't think her less classy than him if she does.
How about blaming him for being a deceitful asshole?  If you're going to deceive, you should certainly leave a minimum of evidence that can come back to bite you in the ass...  So yes, everyone should assume he's being recorded when chatting online duh.   M




forluvofmaria -> RE: Punishing boys who lie (5/21/2006 7:21:55 AM)

Oh my, someone lied online* Gasp* by far the best I have read so far is posted by
"Proprietrix"
Get a clue, get a life and quit reducing yourself to his level........ 




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