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Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 2:20:07 AM   
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4996410.stm
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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 4:59:56 AM   
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Why did she or they burn her passport? I guess someone thought they'd never want to leave but later discovered otherwise?

Makes you wonder how consensual it really was

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 5:29:50 AM   
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My exhusband ripped his passport to Hong Kong up soon after we got married. Some people simply don't think they will EVER return.


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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 6:35:54 AM   
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Oh, my god, I so have to work on creating a series of books that will inspire people to live a certain lifestyle....

(am I joking or not?)


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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 6:53:39 AM   
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Oh, my god, I so have to work on creating a series of books that will inspire people to live a certain lifestyle....
(am I joking or not?)


Next time you meet Laura ask how it feels... but stand a bit back and brace yourself.  [laughing]

Of course, her biggest problem is not people aping her plots but insisting the books are non-fiction and how can they get involved.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 8:04:09 AM   
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Gorean sex slavery is nothing new. Nobody is taken by force, consent is an integral part of the process. The power elite has been using sex slavery for decades as a method of creating zombies, hypno-patsies ang golem.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 10:12:40 AM   
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I love the lack of evidence to prove either point in this article.

Only 25,000 Goreans worldwide... Thought the numbers would be higher.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 10:15:56 AM   
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I didn't relize they did a census for Goreans or any other alternative lifestyle.
 
 
 

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/19/2006 12:11:44 PM   
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quote:

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Oh, my god, I so have to work on creating a series of books that will inspire people to live a certain lifestyle....
(am I joking or not?)


Next time you meet Laura ask how it feels... but stand a bit back and brace yourself. [laughing]

Of course, her biggest problem is not people aping her plots but insisting the books are non-fiction and how can they get involved.


Actually she and I have talked about this.

I get folks who think I'm like my negative female dom characters -- which to a degree is both flattering (I must write well) and insulting (you couldn't tell she's evil?).

Speaking of books, did my fourth one get to you yet, John?

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 9:38:33 AM   
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The Guardian covered this story too, with the headline "Gor Blimey!" (probably only funny to British readers).   But their census of Goreans indicates that there are 25,000 in the UK alone:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/britain/article/0,,1778620,00.html

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 3:11:07 PM   
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I read the article in the Daily Express, and it was appauling. Really closed-minded and scathing. some of the lexical choices were very manipulative- my mother turned round and told me she thought the Master had "evil eyes". What on earth.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 3:12:48 PM   
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This has been covered twice in the daily mail this week, without going and digging it out of the back of the car, I think that they referenced 25000 goreans within the UK.

As for ripping up a passport, its almost the first thing a lot of people do as soon as they arrive, no passport = no place to deport to once your visa expires. Without US style fingerprinting of everyone at the airport and matched to the passport its impossible to prove who someone is or where they came from.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 3:19:04 PM   
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Gor is FANTASY and badly written books, sorry to spoil everyone's fun. I tried reading one and I was so bothered by the
bad writing, sorry Mr. Norman that I had to stop for the sake of my sanity.

They burned her passport, well, that doesn't sound like she can leave anytime she wants, now does it?!

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 8:03:47 PM   
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Actually the articles state that SHE burned her passport.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 8:22:13 PM   
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Tal and greetings

I have been following this story.  Seems to me "Much to do about nothing".  This group is a quiaz Gor group they based themselves on a group of Pirates that were mentioned in the books but have little details.  From what I have read no criminal charges are pending it was all consenual adults, the press is just trying to sell papers. 

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/20/2006 8:27:18 PM   
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WOW. You mean to say that the press prints 'misinformation' in order to sale newspapers??!! Say it ain't so, say it ain't so. {shakes head profusely} I don't believe that.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/21/2006 7:33:30 AM   
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quote:

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Gor is FANTASY and badly written books, sorry to spoil everyone's fun. I tried reading one and I was so bothered by the
bad writing, sorry Mr. Norman that I had to stop for the sake of my sanity.

They burned her passport, well, that doesn't sound like she can leave anytime she wants, now does it?!

I have to agree with you on the books and I think the *Natural Order* of things is a bunch of bullshit.  

Perhaps she burned her passport because she wanted to, perhaps she was *encouraged* too. Either way it was stupid on her part and it sounds rather cult like to me.

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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/21/2006 11:36:16 AM   
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greetings slaverosebeauty
 
"Misinformation" well in this case I just think the press are making alot to do about nothing.  This girl destoried her own passport, she came and left on her own free will,  and no criminal charges are being filed.  So what is the big deal?
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  I have to agree with you on the books and I think the *Natural Order* of things is a bunch of bullshit.

Well Lashra some think otherwise and not all are Goreans as myself.
 
I wish you well
 
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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/22/2006 10:41:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
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ORIGINAL: Lashra
I have to agree with you on the books and I think the *Natural Order* of things is a bunch of bullshit.

Well Lashra some think otherwise and not all are Goreans as myself.


I would be in the "not all are Goreans" category. There is indeed a natural order. If one cares not for that phrase, perhaps "animal default" would suffice.




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RE: Slave sect is fine by us... say UK police - 5/25/2006 12:32:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
alot to do about nothing.


Not to pick nits but... I haven't read much John Norman as I wholeheartedly agree with slaverosebeauty about his, umm, writing skills.  But I have read a lot of Shakespeare.  The phrase is, "much ado about nothing." 

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