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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 8:35:13 PM   
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Hers is $132 more but better quality, since I'm a quality seeker, I'll most likely go with her model.


I subscribe to this philosophy when it comes to kitchen gadgets.  I went through several juicers, in fact, because the motors just couldn't hack what I put them through. In the long run it costs less to get the more expensive, higher quality tools.

I don't have a Kitchen Aid. It's on my wish list, though.  I envy those who have the time and space to make their own breads and pastas.  Someday.....someday...


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 8:51:33 PM   
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icarys gets points for bread making! ^_^

i have no experience with a kitchenaide how it's actually meant to be used, but break making is something i'm intending to learn very soon.


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 9:03:20 PM   
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How does a breadmaker work in comparision? Are they any good to use?
Measure, dump, and turn it on. That's all!!

Well, thats all with the very basic model that i have. You will find a ton of recipes on-line for different types of breads. My personal favorite is Rye...i love the way it smells when baking.


Cool! Have you ever tried making cheese bread or veggie bread (with onions, peppers, brocolli, etc) or fruit or raison bread with your breadmaker? Can it do that kinda bread too or is that not possible/recommended in a breadmaker?

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 9:14:28 PM   
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The bread machine fail was actually what really got me into baking.  You could really love the bread machine idea, a lot of people really do!  (I gave away my machine to someone and it made them very very happy.)  I know a few people who use them just to kneed dough (but it seems like such a space waster for that.)  But I really recommend doing your research and thinking about how you are really going to use it.  I could have save myself almost $200 and a good bit of cabinet space had I thought out the logistics of the whole thing.


Yes, I dont think i am dedicated enough to use a mixer to make bread.. guess i am more a dump and go type. But when I am ready i certainly will research the machines.

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 9:26:53 PM   
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Cool! Have you ever tried making cheese bread or veggie bread (with onions, peppers, brocolli, etc) or fruit or raison bread with your breadmaker? Can it do that kinda bread too or is that not possible/recommended in a breadmaker?
Tj...this site has awesome recipes. Here are two that i tried and both were great. With the Pineapple bread i tossed in a handful of coconut...then another one. I was afraid the texture might be altered but it was fine.



http://www.bread-machine-recipes.com/



Pineapple Cranberry Bread Serving Size: 8

Ingredients:


Cooking Directions:
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
2 tsp yeast
3 c flour
1 c oats
1/2 tsp salt
2 tbsp butter
2/3 c crushed pineapple
1 c cranberry juice
-----optional ingredients-----
add at beep
chopped nuts
dried cranberries

Put all ingredients in bread machine and turn on.


  Hot Jalapeño Bread Ingredients:


Cooking Directions:
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 tablespoon shredded Monterey Jack cheese
1 package yeast - (5/16 oz)
1 tablespoon sugar
1 cup unbleached flour
1 teaspoon salt
1 cup bread flour
7/8 cup water
2 tablespoons chopped jalapeño peppers -- or less to taste

Put all ingredients, in the order given, into the bread pan, select WHITE
bread and push Start.

This recipe yields 1 loaf.

Warning -- this bread is hot! Use fewer jalapeños for a milder bread. It
makes deliciously unusual sandwiches. The wild, spicy flavor contrasts
well with cheese and cucumbers, cold roast beef, and chicken.

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 9:31:32 PM   
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icarys gets points for bread making! ^_^

i have no experience with a kitchenaide how it's actually meant to be used, but break making is something i'm intending to learn very soon.


Alright! Peep points!

I'll trade mine in for a private belly dance. (*grins)


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 9:40:22 PM   
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omg.. that recipe sounds great! never thought of or seen pineapple and cranberries together before... mmmm now i am getting hungry! lol


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 9:51:01 PM   
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I apply that to a lot of my life. :)


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 10:14:37 PM   
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I apply that to a lot of my life. :)



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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/5/2011 10:22:11 PM   
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The bread machine fail was actually what really got me into baking.  You could really love the bread machine idea, a lot of people really do!  (I gave away my machine to someone and it made them very very happy.)  I know a few people who use them just to kneed dough (but it seems like such a space waster for that.)  But I really recommend doing your research and thinking about how you are really going to use it.  I could have save myself almost $200 and a good bit of cabinet space had I thought out the logistics of the whole thing.


Yes, I dont think i am dedicated enough to use a mixer to make bread.. guess i am more a dump and go type. But when I am ready i certainly will research the machines.


Pssst, mixer directions for making bread

Put 2/3 of the dry flour and other dry ingredients in bowl, add wet ingredients.  Turn on.  Add rest of the flour. (Alternative, dump all in at once - turn on and...)  Bake!

You can make any bread you would make in a bread machine just by dump and go method in a mixer using the same theory!  You just have to take it out of the mixing bowl and shove it into the oven yourself.  If you already have a stand mixer, it really is not very complicated!  If you want a bread machine, keep an eye out on craigslist or garage sales or even goodwill, a lot of people like me tend to re-home them. 

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 5:40:40 AM   
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The bread machine fail was actually what really got me into baking.  You could really love the bread machine idea, a lot of people really do!  (I gave away my machine to someone and it made them very very happy.)  I know a few people who use them just to kneed dough (but it seems like such a space waster for that.)  But I really recommend doing your research and thinking about how you are really going to use it.  I could have save myself almost $200 and a good bit of cabinet space had I thought out the logistics of the whole thing.


Yes, I dont think i am dedicated enough to use a mixer to make bread.. guess i am more a dump and go type. But when I am ready i certainly will research the machines.


Pssst, mixer directions for making bread

Put 2/3 of the dry flour and other dry ingredients in bowl, add wet ingredients.  Turn on.  Add rest of the flour. (Alternative, dump all in at once - turn on and...)  Bake!

You can make any bread you would make in a bread machine just by dump and go method in a mixer using the same theory!  You just have to take it out of the mixing bowl and shove it into the oven yourself.  If you already have a stand mixer, it really is not very complicated!  If you want a bread machine, keep an eye out on craigslist or garage sales or even goodwill, a lot of people like me tend to re-home them. 


That would work for quick and shortbreads but not for yeast breads (most of the stuff we think of when we say bread). Yeast needs time to work and that needs to be done with the dough covered to prevent drying out.

The process is still fairly simple. (use instant yeast not the other kinds) dump ingredients into mixer, mix for a while, put in bowl to rise, knead for maybe five minutes, let rise again, knead again, form into desired shape, let rise briefly, bake.

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 5:49:15 AM   
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Yanno........call me crazy, it's okay I do all the time.......but I have yet to use a machine to make bread. I actually like using my hands. However, it's nice to think that when I get too old and feeble, in another year or two, that the mixer will do the work for me.

If anyone is interested I have a great website I found that has all sorts of great yeast recipes and a treasure trove of sour dough starter recipes.

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 6:04:24 AM   
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I have a bread machine that was given to my father who gave it to my sister who gave it to me. You think I would have learned from that.

It makes great dough but I prefer to remove it from the machine and put into a pan for the final rise before moving it into the oven.The problem is counter space. The damn thing's too heavy to pull out from the pantry and carry across the kitchen every couple of days. It needs to live somewhere you can use it without moving.

My kitchen aid mixer does live on the counter. It's 25 years old. I don't have many attachments though. The extra bowl only gets pulled out once a year for Passover dishes with all those egg whites. What I got a couple of years ago finally and adore is the fruit and vegetable strainer. For 30 years I've made apple butter with a food mill and fighting it to take the different screens is a bitch. The food mill must be 60 years old, perhaps newer ones work easier. But all I do now is shovel stuff in the top and the mixer separates it into usable pulp and seeds and skins. Two different bowls and much less work for me.

I'm told that if you want to make your own crackers, the pasta attachment is perfect for that. I have a pasta machine somewhere but I rarely use it.


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 8:38:30 AM   
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If anyone is interested I have a great website I found that has all sorts of great yeast recipes and a treasure trove of sour dough starter recipes.

Yeah I would be if you don't mind.


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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 9:25:09 AM   
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Yanno........call me crazy, it's okay I do all the time.......but I have yet to use a machine to make bread. I actually like using my hands. However, it's nice to think that when I get too old and feeble, in another year or two, that the mixer will do the work for me.

If anyone is interested I have a great website I found that has all sorts of great yeast recipes and a treasure trove of sour dough starter recipes.


I'd be very interested! 

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 1:48:59 PM   
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http://whatscookingamerica.net/BreadRecipe.htm

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 2:54:01 PM   
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http://whatscookingamerica.net/BreadRecipe.htm

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/6/2011 8:51:25 PM   
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My last Kitchenaid died after 15 years. I used it moderately, but I would have to say the doughmaking is probably what killed it. It was kind of funny to see it hop up and down on the counter after about 5 minutes...

I did a lot of research before buying my new one. The mixers were originally made by Hobart, which also produces commercial mixers. At one point, I believe after I had gotten my 1st, the company was sold (Whirlpool?) and then they starting using plastic in the gear assembly and got lots of complaints. They are all metal now.

While I don't intend to stop making bread dough in the new mixer, if that's your primary purpose for buying the Kitchenaid, a breadmaker might be more cost effective in the long run.

Now, if it's cakes your interested in, get ahold of "The Cake Bible" by Rose Levy Bernbaum. The cake recipes are based on the assumption that you are using a Kitchenaid-type mixer. It's also a good read because she goes a bit into the science of baking.

In any case, have fun.

ETA: My first one was a regular KSM something or other. In the end, I decided against the bigger pro model because I already had two extra bowls that would fit in the Artisan, so now I have three bowls total and two sets of the basic attachments. The cost of switching over to the different bowls in addition to the higher cost of the pro model itself was just a little bit too much $$$ to want to spend on an appliance.

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/7/2011 11:55:17 AM   
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http://whatscookingamerica.net/BreadRecipe.htm

Thanks.




You are quite welcome.

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RE: Kitchen Aid Mixer - 8/10/2011 12:37:20 PM   
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Okay, just got the Pro 600 from Amazon.

I'm about 95% happy with it.
Pros:
I'm really happy with the power and the all steel gears. I feel pretty comfortable that at least the main parts will last a long time.

Almost everything about the machine is heavy duty. Even comes with a flour guard. The hooks are clean metal so you dont have to worry about chips enamel coming off  in your mixes.

Cons:
The way the bowl gets raised and drops makes me wonder how long that will last. Probably nothing to worry about.
The bowl itself looks cheaper than the last, less expensive one I had.

That's it. I think all in all it's going to last for years to come and will help to provide me with many delicious treats!

Good call Lat.






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