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Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/16/2004 10:15:58 AM   
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OK a friend and i been chatting about me wanting to get my nipple pierced and He wants to do it Himself. My first instinct is No way in hell! Am i being unreasonable because i think a professional should do this? He ordered a kit to do it which is sterile and has instruction but ummmm i just don't feel it is a good idea.

Is it easy to do? Should this be left to a professional only?

so far i told Him He can do His first then W/we will see *LOL*





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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/16/2004 1:16:35 PM   
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NONONONOONO.

Do -not- let him do it unless he is a professional, trained peircer.

Doing it at home IMHO is no problem, as long as the person doing it -is- a peircer who has been trained and knows what he's doing.

My nipples were done recently. It was done at a friends house, in the living room, in fact, but the friend is a qualified, professionally trained peircer with years of experience.

I know very little about the possible complications of peircing, but from experience you do -not- want someone who doesn't know what he's doing poking around with needles in the nipples. Even with someone who was trained it hurt very much, and was a bit difficult.

I apparaantly have some scar tissue on my nipples that impeded the jewelry, after the needled gone through. They had to peirce again with a bigger needle to make the ring work. Someone without expereience will not know how to deal with the things that can happen and/or go wrong.

Do it at your house if you want, but get a qualified peircer.

Tell your friend his first peircing can be his -own- nipples.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/16/2004 1:41:32 PM   
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Hi perverse!

So how was swimming with the dolphins?! Tell us about your first real vacation!!! And lest I be accused of being off-subject, are YOUR nipples healing up well?

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/16/2004 2:51:25 PM   
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Heh. Hiya.

It was absolutly fucking amazing. 2 minute walk to the best snorkel beach on Hawai'i and we were in the water every day. Didn't get to swim with the dolphins but we got to kayack with 'em.

And they're healing well :)

Thank you so much for asking about the vacation. It was heaven.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 5:47:02 AM   
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I second the NO.

There are nerves in the nipples that *can* be damaged.

If you don't have kids but want some someday and want to breast feed a bad nipple piercing might impede that greatly.

Save the home piercings for the skin, maybe outside labias (cuz they are loose skin folds mostly), ears, etc.

Hell I'm not even sure if anything but the ears is a ood idea to do at home, hopefully someone with piercing knowledge and experience first hand can say which is okay and which is not.

At least with a pro if something goes really wrong you can have accountablity be placed.

JMO.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 11:52:42 AM   
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quote:

OK a friend and i been chatting about me wanting to get my nipple pierced and He wants to do it Himself. My first instinct is No way in hell! Am i being unreasonable because i think a professional should do this? He ordered a kit to do it which is sterile and has instruction but ummmm i just don't feel it is a good idea.




Nipple piercing is a surgical procedure. The site must be sterilized and must remain sterile; the items that touch, or come in close contact with the insertion site must also be sterile. Our skin is covered with commensal bacteria which, though harmless on the skin can be deadly if introduced into the bloodstream.

Many hospitals have created IV (Intravenous) teams recently, why? Because nosocomial (hospital induced infections) are reduced by a dedicated team that does skin puncturing. Consider this. What this means is that nurses, who routinely puncture the skin for veinapuncture have a high enough rate of failure, resulting in infection, for these places to create a dedicated team to reduce infection rates.

My own experience indicates that highly trained Registered Nurses often fail to strictly maintain a “sterile field.” If this case exists then what chance does he have, with no experience of guaranteeing sterility? Consider that he must back the nipple with something during the piercing, else the nipple will deflect, scrunching sideways. Is that item sterile? If he touches the skin within a few inches of the piercing site his gloves must be sterile. Boxed gloves from the pharmacy are not sterile. Consider also that many medical students fail to maintain sterility while putting the gloves on, until the technique is learned. Though it may be hard to understand how it might be difficult for a person to put gloves on, it is. There is a specific procedure which must be followed.

Does he have proper technique when sterilizing the nipples? Will he use Betadine, or is he going to use alcohol, and if so is that adequate. For instance, proper procedure would likely indicate using three betadine swabs (all sterile) starting at the center of the nipple, and proceeding outwards, in a circular motion for several inches, followed by another, and another. Wipe a swab in the wrong direction, and he may drag bacteria onto the site to be pierced. Does he have a surgical mask?

Putting this all together, I’d suggest finding a reputable, conscientious piercer in Texas. Now why would I suggest a Texan piercer, you might ask. Well, to understand my train of thought a person needs to know how public health officials look at the relationship of Hepatitis C (HCV) to tattooing (and I suspect, piercing) establishments.

CDC (The Center for Disease Control) does not recommend the inspection of tattooing parlors. However there appears evidence (See: Tattooing Paradox, Arch Internal Med, Vol. 163, May 12, 2003) that the decision not to inspect is based upon acute presentation of HCV. Haley, in his article looks at the relationship of tattooing and acquisition of sub clinical infection of HCV (one that does not produce significant symptoms of infection in early stages). His findings indicate that about half of all sub-clinical HCV cases that exist correlate to a previous tattoo placement.

The enormity of this is potentially astounding. If this data is corroborated it means that hundreds of thousands of cases of HCV will eventually be attributed to tattooing (and piercing). HCV frequently leads to cirrhosis and liver cancer (15-25%). If only one hundred thousand people become infected by tattooing or piercing, and only 10% eventually need liver transplants the cost will reach 2.5 billion dollars. For this reason alone, I believe that in not too many years, every state will inspect and regulate tattooing, and piercing establishments because of this correlation.

But why do I mention Texas? Because “Texas is the only state that licenses all tattooing establishments and carries out regular inspections to ensure proper sterilization and aseptic techniques required to prevent the transmission of viral hepatitis.” Haley adds:
“The effectiveness of the Texas inspection system, implemented in 1995, was suggested by a seroepidemiological survey of approximately 8000 South Texas college students in 2000 and 2001, which showed no association of recent subclinical HCV.

If Texas is not on your itinerary it seems prudent to find a piercer that can explain the entire procedure, who without prompting, offers you a litany of infection control information.

Anyone interested in blood “play” also might wish to become vaccinated for Hepatitis B. There is no inoculation for Hepatitis C.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 6:55:15 PM   
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*WOW* thanks for all the information. i didn't think it sounded like a good idea.

One more question -- is there a lot of bleeding involved usually?


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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 7:08:23 PM   
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jenn,
i didn't have any bleeding from getting my nipples pierced though i bled on other piercings.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 8:03:10 PM   
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Jenn, there is more info on the following thread:

nipple piercing

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 8:57:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: subbiejenn

*WOW* thanks for all the information. i didn't think it sounded like a good idea.

One more question -- is there a lot of bleeding involved usually?




I bled a lot. The peircers were actually quite surprised and had to take steps to stop the bleeding.

It was creepy. I had my eyes closed to deal with the pain and after a few minutes i look down and blood is running down my stomach. ugh.

But I think it depends a lot on the person.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/17/2004 10:13:03 PM   
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I would say a no no to having this guy do it. http://www.bodyplay.com/school/basic.htm If your friend wants to learn how to pierce I suggest he attend that course for starters instead of buying a do it yourself kit with the 'how hard can it be' mentality.

As for bleeding, I think one of my nipples bled a tiny bit and the other didnt.

I can suggest a great piercing place in NYC or SF if you make it out to either.

Good luck and be careful.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/18/2004 8:29:58 AM   
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I'd have to agree with everyone else here. It's a bad, bad idea. Hell, I won't even get anything pierced by a professional unless I can clearly see everything is is prepackaged and that they have an autoclave and what have you. Make sure the place is VERY clean and ask questions. If they have no answers or really don't seem to know, leave. Plus you need a professional to tell you how to take car of piercings. It's not as scary as it may sound, and usually not as bad as you might think, but you need someone who has been trained to do it.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/18/2004 11:19:49 AM   
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Thanks for all the advice everyone -- i think i am going to go get it done but by a professional *grins* Now my only worry is hiding it from the kids - *LOL* i can see my 6 year old telling everyone i got my nipples peirced.

Thanks again!


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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/19/2004 2:08:44 AM   
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Hint for the freshly pierced nips

Find/buy yourself two clamshells, yanno the circular shells that have a hinge joining them together? Get ones big enough to do the job (depends on breast size, nip size, type of piercing), and place them inside your bra, over the nipple.

They will protect them against rubbing against cloth, accidental scrapes, bumps, and catching on things, as well as be a little less noticable compared to freshly pierced nips using only a bandaid.

Its a cheap and very effective nipple shield to help protect them from undue irritation and abrasion while they are starting to heal.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/20/2004 10:27:22 AM   
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First of all, you can't get a sterile field in someone's living room. What you can get are dust mites, incurable staff and many other problems such as fleas. I worked in a holistic doctors office and yes I have seen nipple piercing have a flea come out of it. Guess where she got her peircing done. In someones living room who was a professional piercer trained by a major piercing studio.

Surgeons, Phelobotmists, Doctors, and EMT's are also out there that do, do piercings. They are specially trained to work with the human body. They know where they can put in a needle in order NOT to create damage. There are no piercers that get trained in anatomy as well as medical personel. NY has no test or firm regulations on the training. They have regulations on how to sterialize the metals though.

I almost became a phelobotmist when I was working at the doctors office. Just didn't take the liscensing test. I had everything else. My degree is in Metals, specializing in Reactive Metals. Meaning Niobium and Titanium. Once the seal is broken on an individual bag that an earing is in, it isn't sterile anymore. Meaning if you see a bunch of piercing jewelry together in one container, the place doesn't keep things sterile. You can get staff, amoung other microbs that cause infection. I have seen this practice all over NYC. Peircing jewelry comes sterile in LITTLE PLASTIC BAGS!!!!!!! I just had to repeat that. I know few piercers that don't combine jewelry for space reasons.

So, when you are looking for a piercing place, look for the conditions in a medical office. Floors, tables, countertops all metal and sterile. You can sit on a clean leather table IF and ONLY IF there is the white medical paper over it. If they have this paper you will be able to see if bugs have investated the place easily. There are so many peircing places in NYC and only 2 or 3 I would recommend to people. I have seen over 100 of them. I go in just to see if they know what they are doing or not. Most have not a clue for what they are truely doing.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/20/2004 11:05:27 AM   
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quote:

I almost became a phelobotmist

What is a phelobotmist. I could look it up but it's easier to ask.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/20/2004 12:30:59 PM   
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someone who specializes in drawing blood

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/20/2004 12:49:46 PM   
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quote:

someone who specializes in drawing blood


Thank you, guess that's my new word for today.

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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/20/2004 1:42:18 PM   
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Someone gave me the name and address of a place to go. Don't know if anyone here lives near Savannah or know anything about this place but it's called (i guess i can say it here?) Blue Moon.

This friend that gave me the name had some piercing done there along with some tattoos. He says everything is real clean and everything they use is sterile. So i am going to check it out- if anyone knows anything bad about this place please tell me!

i don't know what scares me more the pain or getting a infection...

Thanks for all the help everyone.


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RE: Nipple Peircing at home? - 10/20/2004 3:35:07 PM   
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Don't be too worried about infections. With proper after care, you probably won't get them you'll just worry that every time it gets sore it's infected. :)

And every time it tingles you'll worry it's migrating.


And then, once it's healed, and your partner plays with it for the first time, you'll know exactly why you did it.


Uh...in my experience, at least.

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