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StrangerThan -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:30:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Naw, few posts back you were wanting to whitewash any protections that might come as a result of hate crime statutes. Sort of like relax the last 400 hundred years didn't happen, we want to play nice now. "protections that might come as a result of hate crime statute" I never said anything about whitewashing them. I said they're insane. I said, up the penalties if you want, but maintaining them is the same thing as telling one mother her child is worth less than the next based solely upon speech or thought. It's like two kids get killed, one by someone spouting slurs and you and I are going to go tell one, the murderer of your child gets 20 less years than the murderer of the other. I suppose that's the "fair and balanced" mantra they'll understand right?

StrangerThan -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:33:28 PM)
I'll admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong. There is nothing in the discussion with you that makes me feel that way though. You jumped into a generality with a specific point and did your damndest to nail everything to that point.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:36:48 PM)
Nope. I did what I set out to do. Your assertions were wrong, and I proved them wrong, with your agreement. Thank you

StrangerThan -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:38:50 PM)
lol Now that's funny. I'm glad you get to go feel somewhat vindicated though. I usually just feel like I'm dealing with dunces. Like today.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:43:15 PM)
I do understand how you would feel like you are dealing with dunces, stranger. After all, you dont seem to grasp basic concepts very well. But, par to the course, you reduce yourself to ridiculing people when you have no argument. Try and rise above that, will you? Maybe then you can take off the dunce cap and join the adult discussion.

DomYngBlk -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:49:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StrangerThan quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Naw, few posts back you were wanting to whitewash any protections that might come as a result of hate crime statutes. Sort of like relax the last 400 hundred years didn't happen, we want to play nice now. "protections that might come as a result of hate crime statute" I never said anything about whitewashing them. I said they're insane. I said, up the penalties if you want, but maintaining them is the same thing as telling one mother her child is worth less than the next based solely upon speech or thought. It's like two kids get killed, one by someone spouting slurs and you and I are going to go tell one, the murderer of your child gets 20 less years than the murderer of the other. I suppose that's the "fair and balanced" mantra they'll understand right? Is your argument then that both you and I would be treated the same under our legal system? Our Police System?

StrangerThan -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 1:57:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk quote: ORIGINAL: StrangerThan quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Naw, few posts back you were wanting to whitewash any protections that might come as a result of hate crime statutes. Sort of like relax the last 400 hundred years didn't happen, we want to play nice now. "protections that might come as a result of hate crime statute" I never said anything about whitewashing them. I said they're insane. I said, up the penalties if you want, but maintaining them is the same thing as telling one mother her child is worth less than the next based solely upon speech or thought. It's like two kids get killed, one by someone spouting slurs and you and I are going to go tell one, the murderer of your child gets 20 less years than the murderer of the other. I suppose that's the "fair and balanced" mantra they'll understand right? Is your argument then that both you and I would be treated the same under our legal system? Our Police System? My argument is that we damned well should be treated the same, and there is no excuse for anything other than equal treatment to be the case.

StrangerThan -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:02:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I do understand how you would feel like you are dealing with dunces, stranger. After all, you dont seem to grasp basic concepts very well. But, par to the course, you reduce yourself to ridiculing people when you have no argument. Try and rise above that, will you? Maybe then you can take off the dunce cap and join the adult discussion. Umm, try the no argument cap on yourself. Because when you don't have them, you invent them. You want to hold me over a fire for not quoting you specifically, yet a few posts later indicate that I said you played the race card. as in "You then tried to assert that I had played that card, when, in fact, I merely spoke of a truth you later, reluctantly, agreed too." Again, that's not true. What I said was "And in it, you played the card you play so well in many places, which is derail the argument towards a specific reference rather than address the debate itself." The "card'" in question is defined there. It would help adult conversation if you managed to follow it and understand it.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:22:41 PM)
I understand it completely. Its you who keeps trying to spin it to validate what you erroneously attributed to me. Its ok, eventually you will make your way to the adult table. For now, tuck in your bib and be a good boy.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:27:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I understand it completely. Its you who keeps trying to spin it to validate what you erroneously attributed to me. Its ok, eventually you will make your way to the adult table. For now, tuck in your bib and be a good boy. Calling honest TG, where are you? Dont be ridiculous. What he said was perfectly clear and had nothing to do with you playing the race card, but the deflection card. And this thread is a perfect example of the truth of that. You'll do anything you can to avoid the facts.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:30:16 PM)
Again, as with the other thread, I am being honest. He attributed something to me which I did not say, did not even imply, and he has danced the two=step around that issue. Man up or shut up.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:31:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Again, as with the other thread, I am being honest. He attributed something to me which I did not say, did not even imply, and he has danced the two=step around that issue. Man up or shut up. No, he didnt, and there is no way you can interpret it that way. Are you on drugs again?

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:35:16 PM)
Nope, not even advil. Obviously you are. Care to share?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:37:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Nope, not even advil. Obviously you are. Care to share? My reading comprehension is just fine, its yours thats fuzzy.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:42:18 PM)
So is mine. We can agree to disagree willbe. For myself, I am done with your dogging day. Enjoy!

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:44:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl So is mine. Obviously not. You should be done with it, because youre embarassing yourself. He never said anything about you playing the race card as you accused him of, and you know you cant defend your claim that he did. So run and hide, its even easier than deflecting.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:45:50 PM)
Enjoy your day, willbe. In other words, have a discussion with someone else, please. I am tired of you belittling me at every turn. Btw, you maty want to check the posts again. He already admitted he misquoted me.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:46:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Enjoy your day, willbe. In other words, have a discussion with someone else, please. I am tired of you belittling me at every turn. Try being honest then.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:48:20 PM)
Calling me a liar?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/15/2011 2:50:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Calling me a liar? Im calling you intellectually dishonest, something you keep proving over and over again in this thread alone, much less the 3 or 4 others where you CHOOSE to ignore the facts over the last 2 days.

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