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mccollegeguy -> RE: Erection denial (5/24/2006 12:57:58 AM)

Oh and the control of erection (neurologically):

We have a word tool in med school to remember this:

Point (Parasympathetic -- erection)
Shoot (Sympathetic -- ejaculation)
Score (Sympathetic - orgasm)



mccollegeguy -> RE: Erection denial (5/24/2006 1:07:14 AM)

So to make a long story short, you could give some type of parasympathetic activity blocker and that would greatly inhibit the male's ability to produce an erection.  Antihypertensives like clonidine often have the side effect of inbaility to get an erection (because of parasympathetic blockage).  Hope that helps.



Proprietrix -> RE: Erection denial (5/24/2006 10:42:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dovey
I was thinking that I would like to be pampered, but not have to think about sex really while being pampered and the hardness would remind me of it.


Ok. I have to reply to this from my perspective, because, as an asexual, this is a situation I frequently deal with. This doesn't seem so much of an issue of a Dominant taking sexual control over a submissive's erections, but rather you, as a person, not wanting to be bothered/distracted by a man's sex drive. I encounter this often because I typically want to keep most interactions with most people on an intellectual, social, and spiritual level.

When I desire a physcial level (which is part of the interaction of pampering someone's body), I usually don't want it to go to a sexual level. It is easy for me to differentiate the two, but sometimes difficult for the other person (especially a man who's attracted to me and touching my naked body) to make the same differentiation. His (upper) head might be strictly engaged in service, but his body is telling him otherwise.

I'll be honest, when I was 19, it pissed me off. I felt like the other person devalued me as a person and was "only out to get laid" and yadda, yadda. Over time, I came to the realization that this is my issue, not his (and his, and his, and his). Since it is my issue, I have to own it. I have to do the things needed to deal with it.

I can say to my submissive "This time is about you washing my body and giving me a massage. It is not about sexual gratification." That doesn't imply that I want (or need) to control his sexuality. It doesn't imply that his arousal is in someway "wrong". It doesn't imply that I don't appreciate that he is a sexually driven creature. In fact, it in no way speaks to his sexuality or his penis at all. It simply sets the perimeters of the interaction.

And I need to take the appropriate actions in owning my issue. That includes clearly defining the issue. The issue is not "This man is aroused." The issue is "I don't want to see the erect penis". Therefore, the answer is not to abolish the arousal, it's to eliminate seeing the erect penis. Your statement above reflects the same. You don't want to think about sex while being pampered. You don't want to see an erect penis because it reminds you of sex. And that's A-OK. Lots of women don't want to think about sex when they're relaxing into a pampered trance that subbie is providing.

In this particular circumstance, I think the answer lies in defining what the issue really is. It doesn't sound to me like you're goal is gaining power and control over a man's sexuality. It's just getting rid of something distracting so you can enjoy your time being pampered. If that's the case, the solution is really very simple. "Out of sight, out of mind." Quit worrying about whether or not he's getting an erection and direct him to wear non-revealing clothing while he pampers you. Unless you ask, his erection will be strictly between him and his penis.



DiannaVesta -> RE: Erection denial (5/24/2006 11:34:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jamesthehumanrug

pick your nose maybe ;if that dont work dress him for another ocassion beside a full salute....
sorry i'm ,not intending disrespect, but ,i'm no top ,so i have no idea ;how do you stop a speeding train?????


Hey james! lol- that is sooooo funny! Thats' I needed a good laugh.



Dovey -> RE: Erection denial (5/24/2006 7:25:49 PM)

Thank you Proprietrix, I appreciate your input.  I believe this might be the best way to address the situation, rather than trying to control it.  I might try to control it anyway.. just for the satisfaction of being able to control it :)
 
 



subtill -> RE: Erection denial (5/25/2006 4:02:31 AM)

<my english is very bad and i tried to wrote  in german,and
I took the following program for help for translating my German text: altavista babel-fish(translated:)"The reason for the Erection of a man released by is that the cells of the Penis need regularly oxygen around the own function to maintain become at all rigid, to that extent recovers the Penis of a man at the night. That usually weakens condition prevents the entrance of sufficient Sauerstoff.Daher takes place often the Erektionen unconsciously and during the night, mostly develops then thereby dreams, usually erotischer nature.This i heard someone in a film about mens sexuality." 
For me its not so worse to have an erection,because the penis need this to be in function. If i will be real a slave in future ,owned by a women, (translated:)"it is her to be determined your power over whether I may follow to my desire or not, whether I may touch myself or not, also when I may touch myself. Already today think I will I this lady with skin and shed to belong, my desire is subordinate to it perfectly. Without you I will have no more liberty over me, only evenly with your WSohlwollen or with your permission.
if I have one erection, then is also the unconscious penetrated in me available, means Penis to affect press or evenly rub. As a material slave in the property of a lady, I regard however everything at me in the possession of my owner. Also my Penis goes thus into your property, to that extent has it also evenly the right me from it to prevent at any time me without its permission to affect. Turned around it your right, if you it wishes at any time to it to each time at the disposal to be, with or without erektion, with or without own demand for Sex. in the meantime is I geedanklich so far also to be aktzeptieren that I if it its will is also a Keuschheitsguertel to carry has, also one where I in keinster way more down around touch oneself can. My readiness will be ever more boundless your property to become totally even, durably, which only desire which I have however then nevertheless initially to be allowed to find it really atraktiv. To have Vonvornherein in me the feeling for it to there-melt before your material. That is to be become for me the gate material once property of a lady. Then with longer Zusammensein, and confidence durably, as long as evenly it wishes you. Everything at me evenly will belong then to it, some of it will be, also even my own Penis, which reacts in such a way however evenly on his part, as described above from the lady/lady. The Erektion is released however evenly unconsciously and is often not not to prevent also not ergebenst of still the own Geist.Sorry for this circumstance, living in liberty, sub_Till"i hope the translated will be understand:(translated:)
"I hope this text correctly was translated and am not not totally misleading."



HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Erection denial (5/28/2006 1:22:51 AM)

{fast reply}

Lady Marmalade,

I got your email and tried to answer it.  Unfortunately, I STILL can't send email on collarme.  If you write to me again, and send me an offsite email address, I'll answer your question.



cacodylic -> RE: Erection denial (5/28/2006 1:08:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314

If you let him control it he will--to masturbate at will

And this is a bad thing? lol



slavekal -> RE: Erection denial (5/28/2006 4:40:46 PM)

You may want to look into hypnosis.



teenyweeny -> RE: Erection denial (5/29/2006 9:04:03 AM)

i would have thought hypnosis / NLP would be useful for this kind of control. NLP would be great for doing some useful conditioning in general and could benefit the sub / slave in other ways too... so increasing self esteem etc when not under control and increasing submissive feelings when under control.



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