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Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/25/2011 5:56:32 PM   
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I have long enjoyed being a bottom and all the fun bindings and beatings that come from that, but I have reached a point where I am afraid I may have some damage.
I have always enjoyed being bond/cuffed, never to the point of pain or loss of circulation (loss of circulation only happened once, it was about 5 or 6 years ago accidentally during a photo shoot, it was quickly remedied).  When I had my daughter about 3.5 years ago I was given an IV in the top of my left forearm and ever since then I have some tingling and "funny feeling" (like I have to crack my wrist or move my fingers) in my left wrist, pinky and ring finger.  I can handle that.  What really makes me concerned are the shooting pains that I get that run up the side of my left arm into my pinky.  They come out of nowhere and they only last a few minutes.  I can't make them happen and I can't stop them once they start. 
I am afraid to use any bondage until I get this sorted out, but my doctor says that nerve damage from an IV is "uncommon" and that if it IS nerve damage that it can take up to 7 years for the nerves to heal, that's if they heal at all.
I already know a thing or two about nerve damage, during my c-section I got severe nerve damage in my stomach (I have no feeling from my belly button to my scar with the exception of strange pains sometimes) and some in my back that causes shooting pains over my shoulders.  I was told that those pains are "normal" and that they may or may not go away with time.  I can deal with those because they don't disrupt my daily life, but I use my hands all the time (in addition to play )
Is there anything I can do about this? Does it sound like nerve damage? Am I ok to be bound/cuffed like that or will it make it worse?
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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/25/2011 6:01:05 PM   
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but I use my hands all the time


I had an aha! moment when I read this. Could simply be carpel tunnel or some such thing. Why don't you ask your doc for a referral to a neuro. Can't hurt and at worst you find out it's nothing.

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/25/2011 6:54:26 PM   
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Carpal tunnel syndrome is in the thumb, index, and middle fingers of the hand and to the wrist. The shooting pains and the tingling in the pinky and ring finger come from a nerve being pinched up near the elbow or slightly above it. I will get numbness and pain in my pinky and ring finger if I sleep with my arm bent under my pillow or on top of my stomach. The numbness will last for a while in my arm also. And I also occasionally have a shooting pain down my arm to my pinky finger. It's not from being bound/cuffed, but it sure can aggravate it. Especially if you have your arms bent behind you while being bound/cuffed. Bound in front wont be as bad as behind the back. See a doctor that can do a test to check if the nerve is being pinched there.

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/25/2011 7:46:48 PM   
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I ended up with severe nerve damage in my left hand from a bicycle accident last summer and ended up having surgery. Before the surgery they waited to see if the feeling would come back to my ring finger and pinky....when it did not, they tested the nerves in my left arm and the results were that there was severe damage. The carpal tunnel surgery I had has restored the feeling to those fingers. They aren't 100%, but I'd say about 85% which is much better than it was and I'm very happy with that.

The nerve test is not fun, but it sounds as though you should have it done to measure what is happening. They place electrodes in your arm and measure how long it takes for an impulse to travel from one place to the next. I was told that if I did not have the surgery done within a certain time frame that the damage would probably become permanent. I jumped on that and followed through in a timely manner since as you say...I use my hands, and I couldn't face life with a loss of function in one of them.

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 2:28:18 AM   
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Does insurance cover all that? It sounds expensive.  My insurance sucks ass, but I met my $3000 deductible for this year so they cover 80% after my co-pay and I guess that's better then nothing.

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 2:52:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrDennynSlave

Carpal tunnel syndrome is in the thumb, index, and middle fingers of the hand and to the wrist. The shooting pains and the tingling in the pinky and ring finger come from a nerve being pinched up near the elbow or slightly above it. I will get numbness and pain in my pinky and ring finger if I sleep with my arm bent under my pillow or on top of my stomach. The numbness will last for a while in my arm also. And I also occasionally have a shooting pain down my arm to my pinky finger. It's not from being bound/cuffed, but it sure can aggravate it. Especially if you have your arms bent behind you while being bound/cuffed. Bound in front wont be as bad as behind the back. See a doctor that can do a test to check if the nerve is being pinched there.



this sounds exactly like me (it's mostly my left arm, but my right arm isnt immune to it). I was seeing an acupuncturist and that helped a LOT! (gawd, I miss him....)

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 3:35:06 AM   
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My insurance covered it all including the testing. The orthopedic doctor I had for the accident started the ball rolling with all of that. Even though you'll probably have to pay something this seems important. I couldn't feel my fingers for so long and it was pretty awful. As you said....people use their hands.

Mine was useless in many ways when I couldn't feel with it even though I could use it. Had to be careful cooking...I cut myself sometimes and didn't know it. I had a hard time with simple tasks like buttoning or zipping my clothing. Large broad movements were ok, fine motor skills were hard to judge because I wasn't getting feedback - movement, pressure, temperature, etc. It was like having a club attached to my wrist. Couldn't judge how much pressure to apply to my motorcycle or bicycle hand brakes so they were both off the table till I had surgery. The worst thing was not feeling my man's skin when I had my hands on him. That completely sucked.

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 8:16:09 AM   
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Paresthesia along the pinky and ring finger are synonymous with ulnar nerve dysfunction. Carpal tunnel syndrome involves the median nerve (thumb, pointing and big finger). Unless the IV was placed in the groove of the medial condyle, the IV can not be held accountable for your symptoms (the course of the nerve from the brachial plexus to the wrist/fingers is not anywhere near the AC--the most common site of IVs in the "elbow/forearm"). To diagnose the locus of the problem, you will need to have NCV (nerve conduction velocity) tests, this can help isolate the area which the nerve is being compressed/trapped/injured. This is not something you can do yourself and requires some highly specialized equipment and the ability to interpret the data. Other possibilities that could explain your symptoms, but are not limited to, Thoracic outlet syndrome, Slipped/Herniated disc, inflammatory changes from any number of causes (ESR lab test could quickly rule out inflammatory changes), the classical "pinched nerve" (chiropractors are all about pinched nerves), demyelination, CNS plaques, etc etc etc....if these problems become worse (more frequent/severe) or you are experiencing motor changes (loss of strength, coordination, etc) you need to see a neurologist ASAP--better yet, see a neurologist ASAP anyhow!!! In the interim, do not participate in any activity that would exacerbate your symptoms

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 4:05:55 PM   
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As I stated in my initial post, my IV was placed in the UPPER area of my forearm.  I don't know the technical term for it, but it was not in my elbow, hand or wrist, it was on the top of my arm, about halfway between my elbow and wrist. 
All I know is that before that IV was placed I didn't have this issue, after I had the IV placed (and left in the same spot for 5 days) I started having problems.  I'll bet it's "just a coincidence", just like my daughter having seizures following her DTaP vaccines......

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 5:00:01 PM   
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Well you said that you use your hands a lot so yeah it could be a coincidence - but you won't know for sure until it's checked out.

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RE: Possible Nerve Damage? - 8/26/2011 6:55:53 PM   
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I would recomend a sports injury specailist, I've seen something like what you describe. there are several pressure points on the wrists and arms that with repeated damage can start to cause these symtoms..

good luck.

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