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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:17:22 PM

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Id pull more than his license

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:19:54 PM

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Look. Its like this. If I end a relationship, its over. If I cheated, and ended the relationship, its STILL over. I dont owe ANYONE jack squat. Whether he's my husband, boyfriend, Master, Dom, Bus Driver. If I say game over, GAME. OVER. I dare anyone to tell me that in order to seem responsible in the "community" that I have to let some angry little man whip me to avenge his manhood. Fuck the community. Fuck the butthurt little turd. I didnt get into this to be Dungeon Prom Queen. This isnt a popularity contest, and I refuse to play by those kinda rules. Let by gones be by gones. Be mad, cry, watch a movie, drink yourself stupid, vomit out the bad, breathe in the good, and mosey on back to happy town.

And drop this notion that people owe you anything in this life. It will help in the long run.

We need a "Like" button because this is awesome.

And people don't tend to cheat in happy relationships. Something to think about.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 10:47:56 PM

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If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself, can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

The question is idiotic but serious.

Rights are those things which the strong allow the weak to possess. Consequently if you're whining about your 'rights', then you're weak and thus, not dominant.

You're weak, insecure, lack internal strength and grace. Your question reeks of a desire for validation of a completely untenable position. Go away, leave the fucking sub alone and grow the fuck up, little man.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 12:16:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: Johannes

If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself, can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

The question is idiotic but serious.

Rights are those things which the strong allow the weak to possess. Consequently if you're whining about your 'rights', then you're weak and thus, not dominant.

You're weak, insecure, lack internal strength and grace. Your question reeks of a desire for validation of a completely untenable position. Go away, leave the fucking sub alone and grow the fuck up, little man.

There is no need to make a personal attack about a (theoretical) question, no matter if you think it might be real or what your personal opinion is.

OP didnt write it was about him, but asked a question.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 12:28:51 AM

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If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself, can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

The question is idiotic but serious.

If a person has the childish temperament/level of hatred it takes to tell someone to kill themself, would you see yourself handing them a tool meant to inflict harm on you?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 12:34:04 AM

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I still say yes to the OP. If your dump enough to post that. then the answer is yes.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 12:37:25 AM

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If it is an ex-sub, he cannot reasonably demand anything; and, if he told the sub to go kill itself, he is not dominant, either. Just another loser, badly playing a role.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 12:39:32 AM

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But what the sub did was wrong, the ex-Master has every right to be angry... And the right to ask for a compensation? If the sub doesn't compensate and take responsibility of her actions the sub might not have any chance to get back into the BDSM-community because nobody wants an irresponsible sub like that.

You want someone to go back to an angry ex Master for punishment?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 2:12:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: theywork4me

If it is an ex-sub, he cannot reasonably demand anything; and, if he told the sub to go kill itself, he is not dominant, either. Just another loser, badly playing a role.

To the OP: The voice of experience speaks. *LOL*

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 2:29:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Johannes

If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself, can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

The question is idiotic but serious.

There is nothing reasonable about this scenario, it is ridiculous. The 'master' deserves no such title if he told a sub to go kill herself and thinks it would be fine and dandy to whip someone to get 'closure'. The circumstances of whatever the sub did to precipitate the situation are irrelevant. From the sounds of it the sub did the right thing by getting out of the relationship.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 4:25:08 AM

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Thanks for the answers, I hope she got the reality check she needed.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 4:42:01 AM

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I hope he doesnt kill her.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 5:10:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: mkma

But. What if all that was a consequence of that the sub _betrayed_ the Master's trust by meeting another Master without telling him, and then the sub decided to leave the relationship and finally told her Master what she had been doing behind his back. Should the sub go back to her ex-Master for a session to get her punish for it, the punish that she deserves for being deceitful so that the whole thing could get a closure?

You are missing the whole concept of "ex" here. She is no longer with the man so she doesn't have to do anything with him. He doesn't get to punish her. He doesn't get shit from her. It's over. If he wants to play with someone, then he needs to find a new sub. Maybe this time he shouldn't say shit like "go kill yourself" and she might stick around. Either way, he needs to get over the first one.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 7:35:08 AM

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If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself

How very....ummm..asshole-ish. (A family member killed herself last week. The funeral is today. So, I'm trying to be amazingly restrained in my response to you, you fucking idiot.)

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ORIGINAL: mkma

But. What if all that was a consequence of that the sub _betrayed_ the Master's trust by meeting another Master without telling him, and then the sub decided to leave the relationship and finally told her Master what she had been doing behind his back. Should the sub go back to her ex-Master for a session to get her punish for it, the punish that she deserves for being deceitful so that the whole thing could get a closure?

The relationship is over. The dynamic has been ended. No, you have no right or power to punish her. Be an adult, deal with the emotions and move on.

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ORIGINAL: mkma

But what the sub did was wrong, the ex-Master has every right to be angry... And the right to ask for a compensation? If the sub doesn't compensate and take responsibility of her actions the sub might not have any chance to get back into the BDSM-community because nobody wants an irresponsible sub like that.

1) Stop trying to justify yourself....SHE'S NOT YOUR SUBMISSIVE. 2) If she's in her 20's and submissive....most won't care about what she's done.

The fact that you're in law school is scary.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 9:19:08 AM

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If she considered going back for a fuck and a whipping, perhaps it is because she wanted it and not for some sort of compensation. A lot of times it is to reopen a door or to keep someone dangling.

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Thanks for the answers, I hope she got the reality check she needed.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 9:22:07 AM

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oh Missokyst... I hadnt even thought of it in that aspect.

Is this a thread of jealousy perhaps?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 9:31:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: Johannes
Thanks for the answers, I hope she got the reality check she needed.

Yes, she did. Thank you, Johannes.

And thank you all who have answered. This thread has made the sub laugh and cry and realize that her conception of what's normal had been a bit distorted.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/13/2011 10:52:22 AM

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I guess Johannes is the new boyfriend or concerned friend and not the ex-Master?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/14/2011 4:25:57 AM

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To begin, Dominants RIGHTS? The wording is off. Each D/s relationship has its own unique set of decorum and to my knowledge there is no such thing as a Dominant needing "rights". This is why there is negotiation before there is engagement. Or ideally should be.
To finish, a Dominant can tell an ex sub what ever they want. It matters as much as a fart in the wind **poof** the relationship is already gone. I dont understand anything about the question but think a therapist who deals specifically with bdsm community would be a step in the right direction.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/14/2011 4:35:17 AM

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