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Marc2b -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 8:24:02 AM)

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Conducting preemptive strikes on those who you feel oppose your philosophy IN ANOTHER MAN'S VOTING DISTRICT... sure doesn't illustrate that.... but good for you.

Perhaps you can wait till WE ELECT HER to voice your objections to OUR GOVERNANCE ... least then it can be over her conduct in the national debate.


Preemptive strikes? Good fucking Lord you are taking this way too seriously! I saw a thread... I commented upon it. Why that is getting you so bent out of shape is beyond me.

Are you fucking her or something?




SternSkipper -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 8:31:23 AM)

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I saw a thread... I commented upon it. Why that is getting you so bent out of shape is beyond me.


Well bless you..... bigot/bigoted is a strong term for casual remarks... maybe you need a new term for what you say. It's inflammatory. And I am not the only person who found it over the top. .. so what do ya say we skip the role reversal here?

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Are you fucking her or something?


Well she is a blonde and therefore technically my type... but she's also married. I have enjoyed subjugating a lady lawyer in the past but, well she's married and I drew a line in the sand for myself a number of years back on that one[:D]




Marc2b -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 9:10:30 AM)

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Well bless you..... bigot/bigoted is a strong term for a casual remarks... maybe you need a new term for what you say. It's inflammatory. And I am not the only person who found it over the top. .. so what do ya say we skip the role reversal here?


I call it as I see it. If you don't like that... oh well. As for being inflammatory... on a message board with the likes of farglebargle, and willbeurdaddy (to name just a couple), I don't think inflammatory is a word that can be ascribed to me.

I see in that quote certain presumptions that result from preconcieved notions about a certain group of people. That is bigotry. My ultimate hope in pointing such things out is that people will see that we are all bigots about something. Many of us don't think we are bigoted because we are not biggoted about the things it is deemed socially unaccepteble to be bigoted about (racism, gender, sexual preference, etc) but we fail to see our "socially acceptable" biogtry for what it is... and that it all stems from the same source: human nature. We are a tribal species and we tend to think the best of anyone we precieve to be in our tribe and the worst of anyone outside of our tribe (the aforementioned posters are excellent examples of this... but to be fair, they are far from alone). It takes real effort to overcome this (I make no claims to perfection in this area myself) and until we as a species begin to look upon the whole human race (instead of just portions of it) as our tribe then we will be condemed to being nothing more than clever primates engaging high tech shit flinging contests.




tazzygirl -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 9:21:21 AM)

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Even if we presume the GAO's figures to be accurate it still has nothing to do with the point I am making... that presumption is often based upon bigotry and leads to exclusion which is the first step down a dark path... which is why the human race is so fucked up. The solution to our problem will never be found in legislation... but in the depths of our own souls.


I find your post presumptive. Does that mean you are a bigot?

Its extremely presumptive to believe the goodness of mankind will win out in the end.

"Evil" exists...




mnottertail -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 9:23:05 AM)

And these are the times that try men's souls.....


(and they have been found wanting in a great many areas, seems to me)




SternSkipper -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 9:28:05 AM)

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As for being inflammatory... on a message board with the likes of farglebargle, and willbeurdaddy (to name just a couple), I don't think inflammatory is a word that can be ascribed to me.


The right hat for the right thread junior

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I see in that quote certain presumptions that result from preconcieved notions about a certain group of people. That is bigotry. My ultimate hope in pointing such things out is that people will see that we are all bigots about something. Many of us don't think we are bigoted because we are not biggoted about the things it is deemed socially unaccepteble to be bigoted about (racism, gender, sexual preference, etc) but we fail to see our "socially acceptable" biogtry for what it is... and that it all stems from the same source: human nature. We are a tribal species and we tend to think the best of anyone we precieve to be in our tribe and the worst of anyone outside of our tribe (the aforementioned posters are excellent examples of this... but to be fair, they are far from alone). It takes real effort to overcome this (I make no claims to perfection in this area myself) and until we as a species begin to look upon the whole human race (instead of just portions of it) as our tribe then we will be condemed to being nothing more than clever primates engaging high tech shit flinging contests.


It's missing something like empire strikes back music in the background




Lucylastic -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:19:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Is this your way of trying to gay bash again, spazzy girl... [:D]

If he didnt drive you insane perhaps you would be able to address the topic rather than plumb these depths of raw sewage searching so desperately for something vile to throw

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

lol.. and you are assuming yet again, dear insanity. i could care less what he says or doesnt say. I just find it hilarious the way you are drooling all over his balls.

Way to go in coming out of the closet!




Wow gay bashing is now congratulating someone who is open and honest about their sexual preferences?

You sure have a strange dictionary, insanity.

Then again, many republicans do. [;)]

how is that gay bashing?? the thought of a hot guy sucking another guys cock and or balls is extremely hot, except in this particular scenario (being who the two dicks belong to and there aint enough eye or brain bleach to erase that ugly visual.)
Its NOT gay bashing... Bloody moron
He only thinks its wrong, which is HIS issue
Once again how is it gay bashing????

PS Stern, thankyou for the explanation:) I hope Warren gets all these idiots desecrating their tidy whities.
seems like the Dems could do with more people like her





Marc2b -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:31:51 AM)

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I find your post presumptive. Does that mean you are a bigot?


I've already said that I am a bigot. Everybody is a bigot... the only questions are what we are bigoted about, whether we are aware of our bigotry, and whether we are able to overcome it.

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Its extremely presumptive to believe the goodness of mankind will win out in the end.


When did I ever say that the goodness of mankind will win out? I do hold out hope, though - but only because it's too depressing not to.

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"Evil" exists...


That depends upon what you mean by "evil." If you mean some sort of supernatural spiritual force (E.G. Satan), I'm inclined to disagree. If you mean that people do evil things... well... no shit.




tazzygirl -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:35:09 AM)

Hard to believe in a Satan when you dont believe in a god.

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I've already said that I am a bigot. Everybody is a bigot... the only questions are what we are bigoted about, whether we are aware of our bigotry, and whether we are able to overcome it.


You wear your bigotry well.




tazzygirl -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:41:44 AM)

It aint Lucy. But I can understand how a gay person many not want to be associated... even loosely.. with either of them.

Once Skipper pointed that out... I had to agree.. and apologize... to the gay community.

The other two are still sickening as insanity is rick santoruming rush.




Lucylastic -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:43:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

[image]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/423055102_e8899cbaff_o.jpg[/image]

I can't seem to quote the text of your post... must be a new system feature. [:D]

K.


can we keep it, :)




Marc2b -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:43:42 AM)

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The right hat for the right thread junior


Well, Im pretty sure that I know myself better than you know me so I'll pick out my own hats if you don't mind (and if you do mind, tough shit).

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It's missing something like empire strikes back music in the background


Save that for Fargle and his rants about Republicans. THIS would be more appropriate. Or THIS. Or maybe THIS.




tazzygirl -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:45:51 AM)

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Well, Im pretty sure that I know myself better than you know me so I'll pick out my own hats if you don't mind (and if you do mind, though shit).


And yet you have no trouble shoving hats onto other peoples heads. Interesting. Bigot and hypocrisy....




Marc2b -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 11:56:38 AM)

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And yet you have no trouble shoving hats onto other peoples heads. Interesting. Bigot and hypocrisy....


I have opinions which I make known when I feel like it... just like everyone else. If my assesment about somebody is incorrect I have no problem listening to to their reply (I may not accept it, but I'll give it a listen).

All bigotry is based upon hypocrisy.




Marc2b -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 12:01:16 PM)

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You wear your bigotry well.


No I don't. Not at all. Sometimes I wish I could, it would probably make life more endurable to be unaware... but the price is too high.




tazzygirl -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 12:03:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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And yet you have no trouble shoving hats onto other peoples heads. Interesting. Bigot and hypocrisy....


I have opinions which I make known when I feel like it... just like everyone else. If my assesment about somebody is incorrect I have no problem listening to to their reply (I may not accept it, but I'll give it a listen).

All bigotry is based upon hypocrisy.


Im glad you agree with my assessment of you. [;)]

You tell someone else not to pick out your hats, then insist you have your right to your opinion about the hats others wear.

This stuff is just too funny!




Lucylastic -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 12:05:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

It aint Lucy. But I can understand how a gay person many not want to be associated... even loosely.. with either of them.

Once Skipper pointed that out... I had to agree.. and apologize... to the gay community.

The other two are still sickening as insanity is rick santoruming rush.

It was an excellent point, altho Im sure RL is someones dream partner.somewhere.




Sanity -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 12:14:24 PM)


Why do you even bring gay or not gay into a political discussion unless you are homophobes

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

It aint Lucy. But I can understand how a gay person many not want to be associated... even loosely.. with either of them.

Once Skipper pointed that out... I had to agree.. and apologize... to the gay community.

The other two are still sickening as insanity is rick santoruming rush.

It was an excellent point, altho Im sure RL is someones dream partner.somewhere.




tazzygirl -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 12:18:37 PM)

rofl

do you think being gay isnt a political hot bed of debate?




Sanity -> RE: Elizabeth Warren quote (9/26/2011 12:22:06 PM)


That has nothing to do with the question, why do you even bring gay or not gay into a political discussion unless you are homophobes

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

rofl

do you think being gay isnt a political hot bed of debate?




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