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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:22:27 AM

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Is that all it would take to be with you? Could it really be so simple? <rushes off to put on dungarees and boots>

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:23:59 AM

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too late, Zephy...I'm already wearing mine,.. that's my standard outfit when I'm not at work....

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:26:55 AM

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I thought this thread was going to be about masculine women.

(It wasn't.

Sad times.)

I like masculine women! Masculine women are hot. Gimme a woman in boots and dungarees any day.

This pretty much for me..... whew I knew a female fire fighter and I was constantly a pile of mush!

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:31:43 AM

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too late, Zephy...I'm already wearing mine,.. that's my standard outfit when I'm not at work....

Damn you, Monkey she's MINE...or would be if it weren't for that pesky ocean keeping us apart.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:32:37 AM

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race ya!!

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:36:05 AM

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No fair, you probably have access to flight booking I don't. Besides I posted first so I should have dibs.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:36:53 AM

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Can't I have Daisy Duke? Puleeeeze.

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FR

I thought this thread was going to be about masculine women.

(It wasn't.

Sad times.)

I like masculine women! Masculine women are hot. Gimme a woman in boots and dungarees any day.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:39:18 AM

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So funny that the perception of masculine or feminine is, all too often, ridiculously over simplified down to items of clothing, employment, etc.....

I see women all the time, that regardless of dress, makeup or the lack thereof, type of job, sexual preference.........would still be strikingly, obviously, masculine in energy.

Then there are those delicious women, that no matter how grubby from working outside, the fact they may be wearing dirty levis, old worn boots, perhaps even an oversized menswear shirt, doing a traditionally male task better than most men.....and are so obviously feminine, a person would have to be a total fucking retard to not see it.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:42:01 AM

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Can't I have Daisy Duke? Puleeeeze.

You can try but since she's a character and doesn't exist, I wish you luck with that.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:46:51 AM

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Where I come from........Daisy Duke is also a term for shorts made of cut off jeans.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:47:17 AM

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Damn & there was me thinking there was actually something good about being a hillbilly.

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Can't I have Daisy Duke? Puleeeeze.

You can try but since she's a character and doesn't exist, I wish you luck with that.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:48:37 AM

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No fair, you probably have access to flight booking I don't. Besides I posted first so I should have dibs.

I hugged her before you posted.. neener neener!

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:51:20 AM

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The OP is off the Richter Scale. Yes Feminism has had a pernicious and undesirable affect on boys development and we see this from early schoolers upwards girls getting treated BETTER than boys and increasingly Women are being preferred for jobs. But to suggest that Women should go back to the kitchen sink, it defies comprehension, the OP is living as a modern man with stone age beliefs
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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 7:51:32 AM

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No fair, you probably have access to flight booking I don't. Besides I posted first so I should have dibs.

I hugged her before you posted.. neener neener!

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 8:07:40 AM

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The OP is off the Richter Scale. Yes Feminism has had a pernicious and undesirable affect on boys development and we see this from early schoolers upwards girls getting treated BETTER than boys and increasingly Women are being preferred for jobs. But to suggest that Women should go back to the kitchen sink, it defies comprehension, the OP is living as a modern man with stone age beliefs
kevin

you only say that because you want some well-to-do woman with a husband and children to spank you/
ETA: *AND* to PAY you for such!! jesus h christ.. go back to a therapist dude.. seriuosly.. AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING MEDS.
fuck off, kevvie.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 8:11:15 AM

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Lilly! Where have you been! Glad to see you are back

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i agree with those who said that women's liberation also liberated men. not all men are dominant (i think few people of either gender really are), and many of them were living in unhappy arrangements because they were "supposed" to be the provider and leader, even if it wasn't their nature.
there were a heck of a lot of things wrong in the 50s -- i have no desire whatsoever to go back there, even if i do want a relationship where my male partner leads.
i don't think of the 1950s as all june cleaver aprons and "what can i fix you for dinner, dear" -- there were ideologies and value systems that were atrocious by today's standards, and, to me, that's all part of the package. so no thanks.
people are generally picking and choosing little snippets of an idealized version of the past, and idealizations rarely, if ever, actually even existed.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 8:15:35 AM

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hi Iamsemisweet. ^_^ nice to see you, too ^_^

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 8:18:41 AM

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Lots of women who were married 50 years ago are still around and many are widows now so you should be able to find one who is single and available. Maybe age and not feminism is the culprit working against you. Grandma love may be the answer.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 8:26:37 AM

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I still don't see anything really wrong with the original OP other than him wanting all to be like that.
There is an assumption that someone in that kind of relationship is oppressed. I can tell you....my parents had something similar and my mother was far from oppressed.
I'm striving for something along those lines too. I don't think there's a single person here who can say that Shorey oppresses me in any way.
Cooking, worshipping, having him control the sex. Those kinds of things do not equal loss of voice, loss of caring, loss of self worth.
To make the leap of reading that he wants his woman in the home prioritizing him to mean that she's chained and downtrodden and locked away and unhappy is a stretch.
To me, it's simply submission. I find complete joy in that concept.

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RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine - 9/25/2011 8:50:15 AM

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Cooking, worshipping, having him control the sex. Those kinds of things do not equal loss of voice, loss of caring, loss of self worth.

i agree with you here -- none of that is really all that unusual, at least not in my relationships.
but as others have said, my problem is that this is what he thinks ALL women should do, and that's silly.
however, i agree with something else you said before -- his having this belief in his own little bubble really has no bearing on the lives of others. and some women DO prefer to think that this is their role and should be their role.

what's more dehumanizing -- being treated in a way that fulfills you despite the fact that it may be unusual or unpopular, or having other people say "the way you want to live is wrong!"

this happened to my Top friend and i at an event we went to. people who are supposedly familiar with kink but are, for some reason, uncomfortable with MDoms and fsubs. i was standing around minding my own business, and my friend sat down. the lady started jabbing him for not being chivalrous because he took the chair.
this lady doesn't know that i happen to like standing, or sitting on the floor. whether i'm in a D/s relationship or not, sitting on the floor/ground or standing are my first choices.

anyway, he made a joke about not having a pad for me to kneel on, thinking she'd get it since she's supposedly all into kink, and she flew off the handle. so we left.

but i was offended because her attitude was that someone this is wrong, even though i totally agree to it. i'm not being oppressed or mistreated, this is something that fulfills me. and her attitude (i'm sure she thought of herself as a heroine for standing up for my poor little self) was one of the most offensive things i've dealt with in regards to D/s.

there's still this underlying assumption that somehow women can't make good decisions. just because the OP has a belief, doesn't mean that a girl he gets with is automatically downtrodden. isn't it possible that she actively chose to be with him because that ideology fulfills her?

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