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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/12/2011 3:55:22 PM

Toppingfrmbottom

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At least not on this thread. There maybe others into it who're to afraid fo the judgment that goes along with it. He'd have better luck on fetlife, like you once suggested cause there's people into diapers, and using them both for pee and poop, and for fun, or for discipline an stuff on fet, than probably here.

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ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby

Out of the 29 people who have posted on this thread, there are only 2 people so far who are into diapers at all, and then only for peeing and not for pooing. Kinda looks like the odds are not in your favor, OP.

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e posted on this thread, there are only 2 people so far who are into diapers at all, and then only for peeing and not for pooing. Kinda looks like the odds are not in your favor, OP.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/12/2011 4:35:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

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ORIGINAL: agirl

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

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ORIGINAL: dlbilly

Thanks for the reply but could you be more specific? What feels like yuck?

Duh......would you want to wear your own waste?

Well, *I* would if M wanted that. I might not like it but so what? I don't like quite a few things he does.

agirl

He asked what was "yuck' about it. I told him.

ok. You made your answer a question? Was there some difficulty about answering it otherwise?

US cleverness goes right over my UK head.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 11:49:10 AM

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My first line, 'Ouch! You guys are a tough crowd... ' was meant as a joke. I need to learn to use emoticons. Those who can write, we call writers. I'm not one of them. Other parts of my posting were direct, which may have come off as being defensive but was not meant that way. Also I should have thanked those who responded.

I agree that I did not clarify my question well. It probably worked better for this discussion allowing it to find its own direction. If I had said that urine and shit were not involved there may have been many less responses. I wish I had not mentioned infantilism to see if that had come up organically in the discussion.

I came here and asked question looking for honest answers. I got honest answers. I did not take offense to anything that anyone said. I would be lying to say that I wasn't disappointed to find so little support for the idea. Just the fact that diapers were on so many 'hard limit' lists told me there was emotion involved and that I might expect to be disappointed.

I wasn't offended that some of comments were so visceral, but, as I said I was surprised.

I did not think I had been called a pedophile, but, I felt given the direction of the entire thread that I should make it clear that I'm not one.

None of my responses were meant to minimize or deny the feelings or opinions of anyone about this or any other issue. All us here have interests that the majority of people do not understand, think are disgusted and ready send us directly to hell for. We of all people need to be open minded about opinions.

Where the idea came up that I felt was I being called a bad father is far beyond me. I was responding to those who said that perhaps if I had changed diapers, I might feel differently. To which I responded that I had. Much of Risktakers response appeared to be looking for the worst in my second posting. Try reading things with the benefit of the doubt first, ask questions to clarify and then respond. We don't need to fight among ourselves.

I realize what was being asked with regard to my wife. She's not a sub, she's not interested and she's only one person. That's why I came here - to find a larger, BDSM interested audience that could give me wider set of viewpoints.

DreamerDreaming perfectly described my perception of using diapers in a D/s relationship:

'They're a yummy tool, when used judiciously.Control, ownership/servitude, surrender, obedience, objectification and humiliation are my major kinks, and adult disposable underwear ("diapers") address them all quite nicely.'

Toppingfrmbottom made a great point regarding how few made positive post regarding this issue:

'There maybe others into it who're to afraid fo the judgment that goes along with it...'

This may or may not be, but, if I was a shy, unsure person, who enjoyed diapers or diaper discipline, I'd be unlikely to post in this thread after reading the first few posts. Likewise, some on this site may be medically incontinent and some of the posts and may make them feel worse about their situation.

Agirl's post was a point I expected to hear:

'Nappies aren't sexy or hot but nor are lots of things that we do. What is hot is that he can do whatever he likes. '

I was surprised to see posts that suggested that if a Dom/Domme even suggested diapers the sub would leave the relationship/scene or think poorly of the Dom/Domme for even asking. Where the hell is the open mindedness and communication between the D/s in those responses? If it's a hard limit, it should be respected. If it's not on their list and a sub is uncomfortable with the idea they should be able to say so and have it respected. Anything should be able to be discussed.

Thanks to everyone for posting their opinions and perspective. I did get honesty and I learned a lot. That's what I wanted.

I'm going to post this on the Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress pages now to see what I learn there.

Master Bill

P.S. A few of you did border on insubordination in your responses. I will discussing a course of diaper discipline with your Owners.(Just KIDDING![/size]

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 1:16:21 PM

Hisprettybaby

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ORIGINAL: dlbilly
I did not clarify my question well. It probably worked better for this discussion allowing it to find its own direction. If I had said that urine and shit were not involved there may have been many less responses. I wish I had not mentioned infantilism to see if that had come up organically in the discussion.[/size])

Just diapers, withOUT pee or poo being involved, are still not my thing and a hard limit. When pee and poo get involved, that's where I start to think it's actually gross. Re: infantilism, I'm a Daddy's girl, but my little is 5 to 8 years old, way past diapers and infantilism...also not my thing.

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ORIGINAL: dlbilly

A few of you did border on insubordination in your responses. I will discussing a course of diaper discipline with your Owners.(Just KIDDING![/size])

hahaha Glad you're kidding here. Because dictionary.com says:

in·sub·or·di·na·tion
noun
the quality or condition of being insubordinate, or of being disobedient to authority; defiance: The employee was fired for insubordination.

...which means insubordination is impossible, as you have no authority over any of us.

~Hisprettybaby~

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 1:26:07 PM

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I don't see how you can separate infantalizing someone from diaper wearing. And that's a very rare kink.

Beyond that, most of us didn't say we would leave if our partners wanted to try it. We said we wouldn't have committed to anyone who had this as an interest.

Just like in the real world, the more interests you have in common, the better the odds are for the relationship. So we prefer to help the relationship stay strong by picking partners who we share interests with and also share disinterests with. After all, OP, would you be here looking if your wife shared any of your d/s and kink interests?And I might update your profile to say you're looking for others with her permission, most people don't want to risk the drama if she hasn't granted it.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 2:11:58 PM

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I don't see how you can separate infantalizing someone from diaper wearing. And that's a very rare kink.

Actually, you are right. I'm not sure how my mind was working when I wrote that. Infants do wear diapers so diapers must be an infantilism kink. I mean, I've never heard of an incontinent old person kink, so diapers and infantilism must be one and the same. After all, infantilism is going to include wearing diapers, and the diaper kink will include infantilism....unless there's that incontinent old person kink out there somewhere. But again, I've never heard of that one. I suppose it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I've never heard of it.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 2:54:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby
I've never heard of an incontinent old person kink,
~Hisprettybaby~

Well, I'm 55 right now, so I've got like 20-25 years left. You better start right now looking for hot young wimmins with that kink for me.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 3:09:21 PM

Hisprettybaby

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby
I've never heard of an incontinent old person kink,
~Hisprettybaby~

Well, I'm 55 right now, so I've got like 20-25 years left. You better start right now looking for hot young wimmins with that kink for me.

I'll see what I can do.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 3:11:41 PM

dlbilly

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hahaha Glad you're kidding here. Because dictionary.com says:

in·sub·or·di·na·tion
noun
the quality or condition of being insubordinate, or of being disobedient to authority; defiance: The employee was fired for insubordination.

...which means insubordination is impossible, as you have no authority over any of us.

Sorry - English is my second language - American is my first. I often miss the subtleties of English.

Insolence would have been a better choice of words. For your dictionary types here's the Websters defenition
in·so·lence [in-suh-luhns] Show IPA
noun
1.
contemptuously rude or impertinent behavior or speech.
2.
the quality or condition of being insolent.

You're right. I claim no control or authority over anyone here. I'm new around here, but I am familiar with 'I may be a sub, but, I'm not your sub.'

The kidding part was meant to be about telling your Owners and recommending diaper discipline.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 3:17:49 PM

Hisprettybaby

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People in these parts do tend to be blunt and to the point, sometimes not being very nice about it. Been on the receiving end multiple times myself.

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By the way, are you coming to the munch tonight from 5pm to 8 pm at Nicki's Bella Marina? It's usually fun and there are lots of good people there. It's the place to go if you're new to kink in the area and want to meet new people. (I perved your profile and found out you're here in Bellingham.)

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 3:58:03 PM

dlbilly

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I don't see how you can separate infantalizing someone from diaper wearing. And that's a very rare kink.

Beyond that, most of us didn't say we would leave if our partners wanted to try it. We said we wouldn't have committed to anyone who had this as an interest.

Just like in the real world, the more interests you have in common, the better the odds are for the relationship. So we prefer to help the relationship stay strong by picking partners who we share interests with and also share disinterests with. After all, OP, would you be here looking if your wife shared any of your d/s and kink interests?And I might update your profile to say you're looking for others with her permission, most people don't want to risk the drama if she hasn't granted it.

I have spent time around the AB/DL world and there infantilism is long hand for AB or Adult Baby. Those who want to regress back to a baby state with all that entails. DL or Diaper Lover is more of a fetish for the diapers or wearing of them. Diaper discipline as DreamerDreaming and Agirl mentioned is more of a tool to be used in a D/s situation, but it could be part of AB/DL play too.

I was not referring to most posters regarding the leaving of their partner, I was thinking of a couple of posts specifically who made the comments:

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"it is indeed a hard limit and if anyone I was with asked for it they'd find themselves without a partner. "

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"what i would find humiliating is that my dominant was into having me in fucking diapers. "

When you say "We said we wouldn't have committed to anyone who had this as an interest. " Do you mean who has this interest at all or if that is their only or primary interest, or hey are insistent about it? I assume you and your partner don't share all the same interest in bed, in BDSM, or anywhere else. Some things you tolerate, others you don't participate in, others you agree to not discuss, etc. As you say in your next paragraph 'the more interests you have in common, the better the odds are for the relationship', but not all interests will be shared. It becomes a problem when one partner or the other is insistent that they must have that and is unwilling to find another outlet or unable to do without it.

Just to be clear this is not my only BDSM interests. It is only one of them. Yes, I know, no one said it was.

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After all, OP, would you be here looking if your wife shared any of your d/s and kink interests?And I might update your profile to say you're looking for others with her permission, most people don't want to risk the drama if she hasn't granted it.

You're right, I wouldn't be here if I weren't looking for something that I could not get at home. There are many things that are great in our marriage and this is only one very small thing which I consider of lesser importance than my marriage. I would leave here the instant she asked me to. Your suggestion that I mention in my profile that I have permission is an excellent one.

Thanks for you comments and feedback.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 3:59:30 PM

dlbilly

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Yep, coming tonight. Thank you for the invitation.

Master Bill

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 5:33:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: dlbilly

I was not referring to most posters regarding the leaving of their partner, I was thinking of a couple of posts specifically who made the comments:

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"it is indeed a hard limit and if anyone I was with asked for it they'd find themselves without a partner. "

and

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"what i would find humiliating is that my dominant was into having me in fucking diapers. "

When you say "We said we wouldn't have committed to anyone who had this as an interest. " Do you mean who has this interest at all or if that is their only or primary interest, or hey are insistent about it? I assume you and your partner don't share all the same interest in bed, in BDSM, or anywhere else. Some things you tolerate, others you don't participate in, others you agree to not discuss, etc. As you say in your next paragraph 'the more interests you have in common, the better the odds are for the relationship', but not all interests will be shared. It becomes a problem when one partner or the other is insistent that they must have that and is unwilling to find another outlet or unable to do without it.

I have to assume that if you start dating someone, you don't wait until after you've collared her to mention that this is one of your hottest interests, that you need it in any kink relationship. Because that would be a lie of omission. And just as wrong as if she asked you point blank if you were into this and you said no. And then after gaining a commitment said "ha ha, I lied, now you have to do it".

It doesn't matter if you have this in your profile, or if you wait till the second date to mention it. The person you're seeing hasn't yet committed to you and most of us who said we hard limit this would at that point say we are not compatible, goodbye and good luck.

Commitment or not, we all have hard limits. And something like this which is an unusual kink, should not be withheld because as you've seen, not only would the sub not agree, but she would lose trust in you and thus end the relationship. As much for not being honest about it as for wanting it.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 5:59:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: dlbilly

I was not referring to most posters regarding the leaving of their partner, I was thinking of a couple of posts specifically who made the comments:
[quote]"it is indeed a hard limit and if anyone I was with asked for it they'd find themselves without a partner. "

quote:

When you say "We said we wouldn't have committed to anyone who had this as an interest. " Do you mean who has this interest at all or if that is their only or primary interest, or hey are insistent about it? I assume you and your partner don't share all the same interest in bed, in BDSM, or anywhere else. Some things you tolerate, others you don't participate in, others you agree to not discuss, etc. As you say in your next paragraph 'the more interests you have in common, the better the odds are for the relationship', but not all interests will be shared. It becomes a problem when one partner or the other is insistent that they must have that and is unwilling to find another outlet or unable to do without it.

I made the highlighted comment above. In general, if the person I am with asks for something I don't find appealing, I'd expect to have some discussion back and forth and more often than not I'd probably try what he wanted. I wouldn't try diapers, I just find it out of my realm of possible interest, just as I do the idea of being with a woman, or not being monogamous. I''m not interested in those things and not interested in trying. However, I'd have to say that I'm down for trying most things. If he were insistent on the diapers or persistent in asking I'd leave the relationship as it would be obvious that we weren't compatible. It wouldn't be because I was frowning upon whatever he wanted, we just wouldn't be a good pair

You were right, I didn't really explain why I said that. For me a mere suggestion wouldn't nix the whole relationship although I wouldn't be comfortable with him bringing it up multiple times- it would just signal a major difference between us. I think an important point here is that I'm not married, although I do have an ongoing relationship. I can walk away although I would'nt want to. If I were married to someone with a burning desire for something I'd probably try to work things out with them to the point of perhaps having them find their needed outlet elsewhere, but for me where my life is right now, I'd just move on. I think you're having a hard time with that part of things - where it seemed as though I'd scrap the relationship for a kink. I would, if I were at the point I'm at today.
Maybe that will clear things up a bit or maybe not.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/15/2011 6:57:34 PM

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Um.... Dark Steven.... Your math... Are you factoring in dinners at Gunther Toody's?

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/20/2011 1:27:27 PM

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I dont have a limit against diapers. I don't think I'd find them humiliating though, maybe more annoying than anything. But like what agirl said, if he chooses it as a tool in his toolbox, the oh a-diapering I would go lol.

Whether to stay dry, pee or poop, so be it. I've been through worse lol.

Oddly enough he did mention diapers not that long ago. It's not a kink of his, I think he was just gauging my reaction, which was along the lines of a laugh, shaking my head, and a shrug. He's the boss - if he wants to experiment with diapers than that's what we'd do. Not a big deal in my book.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/27/2011 1:50:09 AM

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Women like to feel sexy.
We wash, shave, smooth, crimp, gel, perfume, makeup, put our feet in painful heels.
We spend hours, and lots of cash, to look sleek and clean and feminine.

Diapers are bulky, bland, unattractive, cheap - and eventually, soiled.

To a woman, it's similar to the idea of feeling 'sexy' when you've got the flu.

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RE: Question for female subs on Diapers Humiliation - 10/27/2011 3:01:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: Adorah

Women like to feel sexy.
We wash, shave, smooth, crimp, gel, perfume, makeup, put our feet in painful heels.
We spend hours, and lots of cash, to look sleek and clean and feminine.

Diapers are bulky, bland, unattractive, cheap - and eventually, soiled.

To a woman, it's similar to the idea of feeling 'sexy' when you've got the flu.

No, I don't.

to the OP: I tried the diaper thing once, ages ago. no interest in repeating it. I found it annoying as bloody hell.

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