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MstrssScarlet -> Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:10:31 PM)

I used to pro domme on a pretty regular basis before my health went bad. Every so often I get an email from a former client asking if I'm going to take it up again. One in particular was always a pain in the ass to me. He continually topped from the bottom and he may as well have handed me a script when he walked through the door. Now, I always took into account what my clients liked and tried my best to work those kinks into the session. HOWEVER, I always tried to maintain at least the illusion that I was the one in control. That's the trick to being a good pro domme after all, right? When this particular sub contacted me again I told him outright that I would never see him again because he was too controlling. His answer was that because he was paying for it, he should get what he wanted. I feel like he ruined his own sessions by always wanting to be in control and never allowing me to take the reins. What do you think?
Mistress Scarlet




littlewonder -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:12:55 PM)

personally imo, if they're paying for it, they get what they want unless you have specific rules before they pay saying that it's not something you do. Otherwise if they want to hand you a script, so be it. They are paying for it so what difference does it make? You're offering a service and that's it. It's a job, not a relationship.





LadyHibiscus -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:16:03 PM)

I understand, MsScarlet. I never saw clients like that twice, they were both boring and annoying.




kalikshama -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:18:31 PM)

I wish I had a dollar for every time do-me male subs were told to pay for a Pro-Domme. I agree with your client. He's paying - let him write the script.




coookie -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:24:12 PM)

Yep i agree with kalikshama though i could understand you explaining to him your point of view and that you think he is missing out but at the end of the day he is paying for what he wants.




JanahX -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:26:26 PM)

Shit its your deal ... you get to pick who you want in and OUT of your sessions. This includes answering the phone / mail / and door. Pretty easy.
and also a reason to hang this in your session room.

[image]local://upfiles/1059980/A5DB21DC760A4309BC0FDFFEA09A9CAC.jpg[/image]




kalikshama -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:28:25 PM)

quote:

Shit its your deal ... you get to pick who you want in and OUT of your sessions.


While you are absolutely right, I believe the client is too.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:28:31 PM)

what's that old saw? the customer is always right?

look cuddles, don't fucking kid yourself, a pro domme is just hired help. you're an actress hired to play out the john's fantasies, you're paid to give the fucker whatever the fuck it is he wants, that how this shit works, that's your fucking job. so just shut the fuck up, smile, and do what you're told.




MstrssScarlet -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:30:35 PM)

Love it JanahX! I should mention that his sessions tended to be really lousy and now I won't see him at all. All my other sessions tended to be fun and we both had a good time. I found that the harder the sub tried to top me, the worse the session turned out to be.

Mistress Scarlet




MstrssScarlet -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:31:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

what's that old saw? the customer is always right?

look cuddles, don't fucking kid yourself, a pro domme is just hired help. you're an actress hired to play out the john's fantasies, you're paid to give the fucker whatever the fuck it is he wants, that how this shit works, that's your fucking job. so just shut the fuck up, smile, and do what you're told.


And you wouldn't even make it to the first session. I DID turn clients away.




kalikshama -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:34:15 PM)

Maybe you can refer him to someone less picky and collect a referral fee? Win-win-win!




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:36:02 PM)

I think we are on the same page! I was in the business of fantasy fulfillment, yes, but if it didn't"work", it didn't work.

There's plenty of other pro doms who are just there for the benjamins.




LanceHughes -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:42:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

Shit its your deal ... you get to pick who you want in and OUT of your sessions. This includes answering the phone / mail / and door. Pretty easy.
and also a reason to hang this in your session room.

[image]local://upfiles/1059980/A5DB21DC760A4309BC0FDFFEA09A9CAC.jpg[/image]


That sign is missing the last line, namely:

or who you THINK your Daddy is.




LanceHughes -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:48:50 PM)

I come down exactly in the middle.  But I have to ask, if you didn't follow his script the first time around, why did he show up again?  There's plenty of burger places, aren't there?

You say Hannah wouldn't have had a first session.  I'm wondering why you let him have even a 2nd?

P.S. Benjamins? Really?  How does this old Leatherman find some clients?  Seriously..... would some of you experienced Pros give me a pointer or two on the other side?  I have access to a GREAT space..... so I guess it's advertisements.  Where and what to say....  I'm thinking maybe those "Bi-curious" men could be refered?




MstrssScarlet -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:49:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I think we are on the same page! I was in the business of fantasy fulfillment, yes, but if it didn't"work", it didn't work.

There's plenty of other pro doms who are just there for the benjamins.



I think you're right. I very much enjoyed what I did and I never tried to milk my clients. It was a flat tribute for a set time and if I had a really difficult client, I would refuse to see them anymore. They usually realized what a mistake they made after trying other pro dommes.

Mistress Scarlet




MstrssScarlet -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 8:56:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

I come down exactly in the middle.  But I have to ask, if you didn't follow his script the first time around, why did he show up again?  There's plenty of burger places, aren't there?

You say Hannah wouldn't have had a first session.  I'm wondering why you let him have even a 2nd?

P.S. Benjamins? Really?  How does this old Leatherman find some clients?  Seriously..... would some of you experienced Pros give me a pointer or two on the other side?  I have access to a GREAT space..... so I guess it's advertisements.  Where and what to say....  I'm thinking maybe those "Bi-curious" men could be refered?



I usually gave my clients a second chance once they'd passed my initial evaluation. I would even try to coax them into "letting go", but I would only take so much before I told them to move on.
Why he showed up again? Probably because no one else would take him on.

Most clients (even the bi-curious ones) still tend to want female dommes. I'm not sure why. I would usually try to match them with another client who was bi-curious. Doesn't mean it wouldn't work for you if you have a great space though.

Mistress Scarlet




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 9:10:31 PM)

Hook up with Ms Saskia, Lance!




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 9:10:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

personally imo, if they're paying for it, they get what they want unless you have specific rules before they pay saying that it's not something you do. Otherwise if they want to hand you a script, so be it. They are paying for it so what difference does it make? You're offering a service and that's it. It's a job, not a relationship.




Best answer in this thread.

As is said, "nothing personal, just business."  Unless you had some strict guidelines that frowned on anything this guy in question had asked for, you as the "service" being provided are in little to no position to deny him whatever fantasy he has. 

Thing about being a professional service in anything is that you will always be "submissive" to the customer.  Their dollar is what funds your business.  If you want to cherrypick your clientele then don't expect to be in business for much longer. 




MstrssScarlet -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 9:16:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

personally imo, if they're paying for it, they get what they want unless you have specific rules before they pay saying that it's not something you do. Otherwise if they want to hand you a script, so be it. They are paying for it so what difference does it make? You're offering a service and that's it. It's a job, not a relationship.




Best answer in this thread.

As is said, "nothing personal, just business."  Unless you had some strict guidelines that frowned on anything this guy in question had asked for, you as the "service" being provided are in little to no position to deny him whatever fantasy he has. 

Thing about being a professional service in anything is that you will always be "submissive" to the customer.  Their dollar is what funds your business.  If you want to cherrypick your clientele then don't expect to be in business for much longer. 



Actually, if you're good enough and not too greedy (very important part), you can be picky and still stay in business. I did it for over a year and I still have clients asking me to come back.

JannahX, I just printed out your sign. LOL

Mistress Scarlet
heading to bed for some sleep
Lance, check your messages




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/11/2011 9:39:01 PM)

quote:

And you wouldn't even make it to the first session. I DID turn clients away.
sugarplum, i don't pay to be topped, they used to fucking pay to top me. and of course you can refuse a john, what the fuck? but he has every fucking right to expect to get what he wants once you take his money.

once he hands over the cash you are supposed to do whatever the fuck it is he you paid for. now if you only want unscripted scenes, that's fine, that's your fucking market niche, but complaining about the fucker expecting to get what he pays for is fucked up.




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