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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 3:50:22 PM

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Get a fucking life.

I can think of better things to complain about in a post than trying to gather about a bunch of do gooders who think giving us a grammer lesson will make a fucking difference.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 3:58:40 PM

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In HighSchool the advanced English teacher used to, quite regularly say" honestly I don't know how any of you passed grade......... " because half the class couldn't function to save their lives when it came to proper grammar and knowing things like what a dangling participle or some such thing was. I am one of those students. I can read extremely well but have extremely poor spelling and grammar and other English technical skills. I wouldn't know what a dangling participle was if it walked up to me and introduced itself.

I knew 17 year olds who were nearly unable to read , at even a basic see spot run level, with out stuttering and hemming and hawing and being nearly un able to pronounce the most basic word.

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With that out of the way I must say that I think the whole educational system must share the blame.

They're not always leading by example to say the least.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 4:03:26 PM

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"Also, we wouldn't say * I can write manual* we'd say * I can write manually*.(ref your post) "

Actually that references a way it's done in law, "sign manual". But not to dwell on that.

"* It was so fun*. Here we'd say * It was so much fun* or * It was fun*. "

Actually that is lesser than quite a few of the transgressions I find. But it was bound to happen. Nouns become verbs, like alphabet[ize]. Now just what rule made it OK for that word, while for organize it is not true. Organ and organize do not share the same relationship meaningwise. Why ?

It has nothing to do with the ancient roots of the word, it has to do with the laziness of generations past. Consider the origin of the contraction. I bet someone was writing with a quill pen and didn't make the letter "i" correctly and people found they could read it anyway. A form of very simple shorthand had been discovered.

And as much as I agree with the perception that people who use textspeak are lazy, others who use it don't. You hear people with such poor diction they are hard to undrstand, you read people with suck poor penmanship it is hard to understand, but some do understand it.

Then there is "jive" or "ebonics tht Blacks invented, and in fact "yiddish" that Jews invented. It all involves a form of communication agreed upon by groups. Like an accent or dialect or something. It is more efficient for the members and cryptic at times for others outside the group.

This type of language difference makes it clear that we are never going to be one happy family on this planet, but it doesn't hurt to try. But language is just too innate to the culture that it may be the final frontier. For some time now I have believed that most of the world's problems were caused by misunderstandings. (this means interpreters can cause wars). The only other factor are those who think they are entitled to rule for some reason with or without consent.

If you don't think our rulers have a different language, read the PATRIOT act.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 4:13:48 PM

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yea, well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv3tadz5Q3o too.

Should have been 'yeah'.

If we are being grammatically correct. are informal words allowed?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 4:15:09 PM

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My learning disability and I will simply say we are sorry and leave you and the better folk to talk further.

Ditto...

Edited to add- everything I write gets spell checked, read and re read for clarity, but things get through anyway.

I am well educated as well as a writer (by hobby but hopefully one day, by career) and through writing a lot I have found that my spelling and such have improved, but still aren't as good as they could or should be. It has always bugged me and is a sensative spot because I have so much respect for the written word (I am a voracious reader) and so enjoy expressing myself in it, but people just don’t take me seriously when they see my errors.

Ailey the grammatically challenged

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 4:28:07 PM

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"Dinning". If you enjoy fine dining or have a dining room table for sale, trust me you don't need the extra 'n'. Really.

I've been seeing this a lot in Real Estate ads from licensed real estate agents. I find it odd because I expect some modicum of intelligence from them.

Also, a house with a "hugh yard" and another that is close to "pubic transportation".

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 4:34:32 PM

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The doctors I work for are complete idiots when it comes to English. Two of my favourites are "The patient's taste has changed since starting chemo" and "The patient's mother is currently dead"

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 4:43:46 PM

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Well, I was trying to give people the benefit of the doubt, by assuming they knew correct grammar and spelling and were just making unintended mistakes. That happens to everyone, regardless of how well they know the language. But you are probably right, some people honestly don't know grammar and spelling, and can't be bothered to learn it. I stand corrected, darling. I will still notice their mistakes, and it is my right to comment on it or not, as I choose. It may also affect how much weight I give their opinion, which is also my right. I don't really care what you think about that.
The point is, people on CM rarely comment on these matters, unless it is in a thread like this. Why were people in such a huff about the thread itself? Get over it.

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It's very clear that I have said nothing of the kind. It's silly to say * I have the right to notice*.

Some people are better at spelling and grammar than others. It comes more easily to some people and it doesn't follow that they *can't be bothered to learn it*.....another silly comment.

You also have the right to be silly, no doubt :-)

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 5:06:28 PM

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yea, well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv3tadz5Q3o too.

Should have been 'yeah'.

If we are being grammatically correct. are informal words allowed?

No. Only dickheads and gits use informal words.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 5:58:47 PM

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If somebody raised a good point yet typed it out with many errors, would that diminish their view any?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 6:19:57 PM

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quote:

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"Dinning". If you enjoy fine dining or have a dining room table for sale, trust me you don't need the extra 'n'. Really.

I've been seeing this a lot in Real Estate ads from licensed real estate agents. I find it odd because I expect some modicum of intelligence from them.

16 years of experience dealing with other agents says "DONT".

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 6:27:14 PM

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If somebody raised a good point yet typed it out with many errors, would that diminish their view any?

No, but a lot of people would jump on those errors in order to try dismiss or diminish that point.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 10:17:14 PM

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Well, thank you!

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Well, I was trying to give people the benefit of the doubt, by assuming they knew correct grammar and spelling and were just making unintended mistakes. That happens to everyone, regardless of how well they know the language. But you are probably right, some people honestly don't know grammar and spelling, and can't be bothered to learn it. I stand corrected, darling. I will still notice their mistakes, and it is my right to comment on it or not, as I choose. It may also affect how much weight I give their opinion, which is also my right. I don't really care what you think about that.
The point is, people on CM rarely comment on these matters, unless it is in a thread like this. Why were people in such a huff about the thread itself? Get over it.

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It's very clear that I have said nothing of the kind. It's silly to say * I have the right to notice*.

Some people are better at spelling and grammar than others. It comes more easily to some people and it doesn't follow that they *can't be bothered to learn it*.....another silly comment.

You also have the right to be silly, no doubt :-)

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 10:50:03 PM

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I suppose it is as well that she has also the right to insult myself. I have noted you feel no remorse, this is as I did believe it would be. This is also a blessing, for now it is known to all that you are a bully and of small worth. I will abstain from my usual blessing as I do not wish peace for you at this time.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 11:13:04 PM

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Here's an idea - why don't you harden the fuck up and quit whining about other people's inability to express themselves in a fashion you deem appropriate.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 11:22:45 PM

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WAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back at post #16, on page 1, we have Termy typing "I do understand the concept tough, and hope this thread is in good intent, which would be to get people to become cognizant of proper grammar and spelling(s). For some it reflects on their intelligence, at least in the eye of their readers."

I think he meant "though."

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 11:28:44 PM

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It's sad that our newspaper here in Baltimore is actually renowned for its spelling and grammar errors. You would think the paper is written by 5th graders because it's so atrocious.

I mean it's a newspaper. You would think that anyone in the business of writing, copywriting and editing could take the time to fix their errors.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 11:31:43 PM

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<snipped>
Others, such as...*She walked real fast*..would be unusual to hear here. It'd be more usual to use * She walked quickly*.
<snipped>
All good fun though.

agirl

That's representative of one of my pet peeves: The substitution of "real" for "very."
"She walked very fast."

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/19/2011 11:51:01 PM

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Termy also admitted it took him a long time to achieve what he called an acceptable level of literacy. He should be commended for being a prolific and (occasionally) interesting poster.
This thread is becoming more nitpicking than helpful.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 12:04:04 AM

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I worked as a copy editor for a gay porn magazine for 10 years. My all time favorite: "He let out a groin of satisfaction." <Just goes to show you what spell-checker can't do.> Second place? In the personals "I like O / J." Took me the longest time to figure out that the man in question meant that he wanted to have J / O - as in "jerk off."

In general, "who" for "whom" and vice-versa. As in the OP, there's a simple substitution that clears up which to use: "I'm going to pick whoever I want to." WRONG ! ! ! One wouldn't say "I'm picking he," but rather, "I'm picking him." Thus, the m in him, says "use 'whomever'." Correcting this particular peeve is a losing - actually lost - battle. Whomever cares anymore has given up. (That's a JOKE, folks. A joke! "He cares" vs. "Him cares.")

And another that's disappearing: The distinction between "may" and "might." "The building may fall," vs. "The building might fall."
ALL buildings may fall. This one, due to its being built on sand, might fall.

"May" involves permission, and "might" involves possibility. "I may go to the party" means I have been given permission to go; "I might go to the party" means that it is possible - thus not sure - that I will go to the party.

"I may sue you." Of course, in this day and age anyone has permission to sue anyone else.
"I might sue you, especially if you don't get that building's foundation fixed."

As I said above, "might" has pretty much disappeared from the American version of the English language.

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