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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 9:35:41 PM

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At the end of the day it is the "voice" of the writer that gets to me or not. Nazi spellers grammar police sometimes have a rotten voice to read. People who give such a huge shit about it are often people who make mistakes as well.

People here have affectations in their writing like (in my opinion) over using asterisks in pretty much every post made. Or the EVER LOVING caps!

I dont Mind capitalization where the author feels He Wants to. I Completely get it. New words enter the dictionary all the time based on current speech patterns. Suicided is now a word. "That guy suicided on the weekend."

I suck at grammar could use some lessons but I would rather have a distinctive voice than not. I like writers who are throwing tradition away. I dont believe you have to Know how to use grammar in the traditional sense in order to throw it all away either. Ya jes need to write good, keep folks wanting to turn the page or in this case to even read the individual post. Some a yalls so braggarty and trying to prove how smart ya is, it is So Obvious.

I like this thread and I like to learn wutwut with writing and stuff!

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 9:39:10 PM

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Yippeee, thanks Ed! It wud vex me no end too mispel lak a doosh in my own thred.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 9:51:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Suicided is now a word. "That guy suicided on the weekend."

Yikes heart, is it really? I've heard people say it but thought they were just lazily adapting 'committed suicide' kind of like 'prolly.'

Seeing these actual language changes over the years means I've been around a...really...long...time. Eeeeeeeeeeeeps!!!! Why don't I feel old?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 9:57:23 PM

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By Jove, I think you got it right.
I think it is staunch, I have never heard the word stanch before

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

I have trouble with affect and effect also.

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

One thing i ALWAYS get wrong even though i know the damn explanation is affect and effect -- i mean only a sadist could come up with those words for people to use.

So the way i see it, people can be the spelling police all they want but in the end, i am a career criminal in this and will never learn so they should focus more on the really bad guys lol.

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So ladies and Edwynn (sorry Ed but when I saw the spelling of your name I immediately thought of Jeff Dunham and Peanut's schtick about unneeded letters here), was I incorrect in the use of 'affectation' here?:

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Slashy speak, and folks that capitalize 'Me', 'Mine', 'You', 'Your' in the middle of a sentence and not after a period...anything but proper-English 'I'. Bastardizing the English language in this way just looks like a dumb affectation to me.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 3:00:43 AM

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My WordWeb has it that 'staunch' is used in the UK and other English-speaking countries, while 'stanch' is used in North America alone. That'd explain why I'd never heard the word 'stanch' till now.

I hope that hinders . . . .

Neither had I. I guess it's that British colonies thingy.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 3:24:37 AM

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English is not my second language, I have dsylexia, and it is a struggle to
write here, but i am so much better, i am on hell of a reader, it is the written expression'
that kicks me in the backside! So i try to explain what and how and where! now my keyboard
caps on the left side is acting up! So i am winning the game at last, oh we had an earthquake
here two of them! So writing is not worrying me now it is the quakes !

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 7:43:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn
You mean that it might make me sound effectacious if I said "an historical view," e.g.? I wonder how that would effect others' perception of me. I would only hope that there'd be no such affect.

Sorry, this is getting to be too much fun here.

I didn't finish reading the whole string, so I apoligize in advance if anyone else caught Edwynn's reversal of "effect" and "affect."

"Effect" is the noun; "affect" the verb (except in special cases) as we are taught below.
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Generally speaking, affect is a verb and effect is a noun. When you affect something, you produce an effect on it. Even in the passive voice, something would be affected, not effected.

There are certain situations where effect is used as a verb and situations where affect is used as a noun, but very few people ever have a need to use them thus, so unless you are already confident of your ability to use these words correctly, just treat as general the rule that effect is a noun and affect a verb.

(If you feel the need to get fancy, however, here are the meanings of effect as a verb and affect as a noun. As a verb, effect means to execute, produce, or accomplish something; as a noun, affect is used primarily by psychologists to refer to feelings and desires as factors in thought or conduct.)

- from http://grammartips.homestead.com/affect.html
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Thus, we see an attempt to be "fancy."

I wonder how that would effect others' perception of me. I would only hope that there'd be no such affect.

CLOSE!

I wonder how that would effect [a change in] others' perception of me. I would only hope that there'd be no such affect.

That is, you can "effect a change," and you can "affect others' perceptions," but you can't "effect others' perceptions."

"Affect" here seems to be so close I'll leave it alone.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 7:49:33 AM

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Damn. I am never going to get those two straightened out.

I did find a quote from a writing professor I had one time:
People who can't tell the difference between good and bad language are unlikely to think carefully about anything else.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 8:02:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
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I did find a quote from a writing professor I had one time:
People who can't tell the difference between good and bad language are unlikely to think carefully about anything else.

A very long time ago (when teaching computer programming, which is nothing more that writing in a new language) I made up, "We write as we speak, we speak as we think." I'm right there with your prof.

PART II: WHY are people inserting the word "did" as a modifier to the verb that follows? Ex: I did notice this a few years back, and it's only gotten more prevalent. LOL!

Sweet's comment above can be written: I found a quote from a writing professor I had one time.

My LOL! can be written: I noticed this a few years back....

WTF is going on? Has the writter (or speaker) forgotten past tense? Almost always first person singular.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 9:03:14 AM

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to me adding the "did" implies that there was a failure in something else, but that whatever the fuck follows happened. its effectively an implied but or however. or it can imply a certain serendipitousness. so sweet's whole remark to me reads as either :

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"Damn. I am never going to get those two straightened out. [however] I did find a quote from a writing professor I had one time: "

or

quote:

"Damn. I am never going to get those two straightened out. [i wasn't actually looking for it, but] I did find a quote from a writing professor I had one time: "

anyway that's what the seemingly extraneous little fucker says to my mind.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 9:09:27 AM

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yea, well that plus the fact that effectacious doesn't seem to even be a real fucking word. i googled it just to be sure and didn't get a single fucking hit, so i think its just ed making up fancy sounding words again.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 9:49:24 AM

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yea, well that plus the fact that effectacious doesn't seem to even be a real fucking word. i googled it just to be sure and didn't get a single fucking hit, so i think its just ed making up fancy sounding words again.

True not heard of that one, heard of affectacious though - spelling error?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 9:50:58 AM

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efficacious? mebbe...... ipecaic?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 10:11:21 AM

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fuck. I can RED the word ok... just cant SPELL it!! efficacious GH!! I HTE WORDS LIKE THIS!!

(nd wtf is up with my cap "" key?? ) GH!!!!

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 10:45:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynn

yea, well that plus the fact that effectacious doesn't seem to even be a real fucking word. i googled it just to be sure and didn't get a single fucking hit, so i think its just ed making up fancy sounding words again.

Er . . . I assumed Ed was joking . . . .

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 10:50:32 AM

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Serendipity. I found an old text book while cleaning out my office.

In addition, the first sentence was supposed to be one paragraph (referring to my difficulties with effect and affect), and the next sentence a separate paragraph. My IPad sometimes makes doing things like that hard, for some reason. At least, that's my story and I am sticking to it.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynn

to me adding the "did" implies that there was a failure in something else, but that whatever the fuck follows happened. its effectively an implied but or however. or it can imply a certain serendipitousness. so sweet's whole remark to me reads as either :

quote:

"Damn. I am never going to get those two straightened out. [however] I did find a quote from a writing professor I had one time: "

or

quote:

"Damn. I am never going to get those two straightened out. [i wasn't actually looking for it, but] I did find a quote from a writing professor I had one time: "

anyway that's what the seemingly extraneous little fucker says to my mind.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 10:51:08 AM

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i didn't. it isn't the first fucking time he's done it, he always tries to use fancy words and phrasing, and fuck it up half of the time.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 10:53:02 AM

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It surprises me that you did not use an exclamation point with serendipity, what better way to convey surprise or fourtuitous circumstance, than by an exclamation point!

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 10:53:42 AM

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yea, the serendipity was what i was going with, its the one that makes the most fucking sense.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/21/2011 11:03:34 AM

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May I recommend WordWeb to everybody? It's a dictionary/thesaurus that sits in your systems tray. You've only to double-click a word you're not sure of, and it'll come with 'not found' if it's not spelt correctly, and give suggestions. If it *is* spelt correctly, it'll give a definition as well as synonyms. Dead handy. Freebie version here.

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