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Active Profiles ? - 10/20/2004 7:44:41 AM   
darchart


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I have a question for the Masters/Misstresses.
Is it ok for a Master/Mistress to keep an open profile while considering a sub, without the one you are considering being made aware of it?
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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/20/2004 4:39:43 PM   
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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/20/2004 4:45:01 PM   
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Honestly, unless you say *you are the only person I will talk to until we see were it goes*, how is it different than when you are vanilla dating. Until you commit to a someone (agreeing to only see each other, living together, something like that), the person should *assume* that you wouldn't keep an open profile IMO. And if you state you are poly, even then there is no reason they shouldn't expect you to still have an active profile unless you agree to take a break while getting use to each other or something.



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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/22/2004 12:36:09 PM   
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Many dominants (especially Domme) keep more than one sub. The sad fact is a supply and demand problem. There are way more subs than true Dominants. Unless you have been told that you are the only one being considered and will be the only one kept, you can not assume that fact. As always, the answer is communication. You should be dealt with honestly and know if you will be one or part of a stable from the very start. If your Dominant is monogamous, there is a good chance that s/he is keeping the profile active because you've not committed to each other. Greater than 99% of contacts on here fall through.

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/23/2004 12:05:53 AM   
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I agree with inside...
It's best to have open communication though; ask her/him if you are the only one being considered or not, and did he/she ask for you to close your profile, and keep his/hers open? When I am considering seriously, tend to close mine and have him close his if things are going well; but if things aren't going terribly well, than I don't ask him to close, nor do I close mine.
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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/23/2004 4:41:42 AM   
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I would suggest that the 'nature of dominance' (and all the nauseous platitudes) has nothing to do with it.

It is simply this - if there is no comittment to someone is there an obligation to change in order to please them?

You might answer yes - they might answer no.

Expectations on how another person behaves is one of the things that kills a relationship (even before it starts).

If this is not acceptable to you, talk to the person you are dealing with in an honest way insead of festering this into the demise of a relationship before it starts.

Other than that, you are simply dealing yourself a poor hand, and have no one to blame for thie angst you feel but yourself.

Keep in mind: They might tell you that they will do no such thing.

This has nothing to do with "Is this fair of him..." as is posited by the question. This has to do with how you feel about it. Not whether they "should" do anything.

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/23/2004 6:25:56 PM   
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I do not ask a sub/slave to close a profile, nor do I close My own. I might ask how many Dommes they are in contact with. This is generally is response to their question of how many subs I am considering. If and when I get to a stage where I am not seeking a
live-in slave, I will change My profile to reflect such. In addition, I meet most applicants through online sites such as CM. They can see I have the profile up! And I specify that I will have more than one live-in. Yet I have alot who try to talk Me out of that. (Now boys, why would you do that, I wonder?)
I agree with BeachMystress...99%+ fall through. Why would I cause a delay in correspondence and possibly lose the right live-in?


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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/25/2004 12:13:42 PM   
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I am looking for a Dominant but before Having One I would like to be Mentored and have my mind altered.. Meaning I just got out of a relationship and I need to be strong again and able to go forward. People say it will take time I think in my own opinion if i may, that it will take my attention being focused upon my intentions as a submissive..What will make this a harder point in my life is that this person is now joined here and posts in the messageboards regularly now. How can I overlook his opinions and see his falsehoods also without blaring out he's a phoney..My Goodness I am strong willed and very determined to be as I am but how do I overlook the discreptancies. I do not allow myself to judge and i donot allow myself to act the fool as I have been tempted so any times.. any ideas will help.. perhaps a vacation is on the agenda soon . I donot know yet,but I cannot let someone words chase me away if this ever happens..I been here too long and have made too many friends to let them down..So I prefer to stay it out but I still need ideas .. that will help me mend if its possible..thank you all for your time.. serenity

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/25/2004 5:37:45 PM   
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In any relationship that ended other than the way you want, there is a bit of pain when reminded of the other person. While it might be good for you to be away from reminders of him, I think it would be a mistake to do it by giving up something you enjoy and use as a bit of a support system. I would make it a point to ignore his postings. Never answer them. Do not even read them. It will be hard to do at first, especially since you are angry. It will get easier over time. Good luck.

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/25/2004 8:09:52 PM   
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There has been a recurring question on various boards asking whether a person should keep an active profile once they have found a match. Some choose to take a 'wait and see' attitude, as has been suggested here. Many, like myself, enjoy this site for reasons other than potential matchmaking, and so keep the active profile as a means of mantaining a presence here. It may well be that, upon a new relationship having been cemented, they will alter their profile to state that they are not looking, or perhaps they will indicate during the initial phase of exploration and discussion that these sorts of relationships typically require that they are not of a monogamous nature. Perhaps they will shut off the profile, or simply forget about it, it having served their purpose. Many of the profiles on this site have not been accessed since "long ago", that lovely temporal indeterminate which indicates an inactive user.

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/26/2004 9:39:04 PM   
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i have a question please, i met a Master on here a few weeks ago, Wwe talkes for a few weeksm and He told me i could consider myself the lucky submissive, and then 6 days ago, He stopped talking to me, then today His profile is gone...and still i havent heard anything i dont know if He still wants me or not... i think He should get a hold of me and let me know something and not hide from me,. do You think i should just forget about Him... that He was just playing me? Wwe were goin to meet soon.... but i dont know what is goin on..... what should i do give up? or wait for Him thank You

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/26/2004 9:58:21 PM   
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I'll take a stab at it quietgirl, but first a question -- when you say you "talked" with him, do you mean by phone or only by e-mail?

If it is only by e-mail, it is possible he had technical difficulties, got sick or busy with work, but I think it is far more likely (almost certain) that he was amusing himself by jerking you around. It might just be me, but telling you how lucky you are to be involved with him smacks of arrogance so I'd be even more pessimistic about his intentions. But you probably figured that out from his profile disappearing.

So count your blessings that you didn't set up a meeting and get all excited only to have him not show up for that. Good luck!




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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/26/2004 10:17:00 PM   
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quote:

then 6 days ago, He stopped talking to me, then today His profile is gone...and still i havent heard anything i dont know if He still wants me or not..


My guess is that he made a new profile with a new name and will do the same thing to the next victim, but i hope i am wrong. Did he have a pic in his profile? Did you talk on IM or just emails? If you talked on IM does he show as being online? Do you have his phone number?

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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/26/2004 11:07:54 PM   
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Try to forget him, Quietgirl. I certainly wouldn't let him chase me off the boards - everyone has a right to be here - and Collarme has something like 58,000 members - he is only one. I know it hurts, but it will pass. I do know how this feels, and it is hard, because you think things maybe were going to work out. Personal story and maybe TMI - too much information (but here I go anyway...). I am a quiet girl, too. The following just happend to me last Spring and Summer:

Before I found out my husband was willing to try bdsm, I was friends with an on-line mentor, who I fantasized a lot about, and I think he knew it. He was also 10-15 years older than me, which I loved. He had a great profile up on the DungeonNet personals board - and honestly I can't remember how I literally just stumbled upon it - I just read a lot, if I get "lost" researching stuff on the internet, and am no techie, but curious, so this happens to me occasioanally, and I found DungeonNet. After I found out what DungeonNet was about, I read almost all the categories in the entire board - it was soooo interesting to me.

I read this man's profile, and he was so debonair, and sounded so smooth, and it was all so new, and he had a great pic of himself up there. He knew exactly what he wanted - but had not found it and had been revising it - I'd kept my eye on it for a few weeks without contacting him. I just wrote him a letter one day, introducing myself - I wanted to learn more about D/s, and he seemed to know so much.

There was a huge experience gap between us (I read a lot, and have about bdsm stuff since, but - looking back, I realize now just how much he knew that I didn't about what he was looking for. I think he played me a little, too. Had it continued, I am sure maybe I could have been accused of playing him, and he was very dominant, and maybe could have been great for me, and maybe would have ruined my entire life. I really have no way to know - but meeting him would have required I turn my entire life upside down - a move across the country, to Washington, D.C. - I know I would have been cut-off from everyone I know now had we continued. He also wanted his sub to wear a 24/7 steel neck collar w/a padlock. To me this meant (finally dawned on me - he is looking for "the One" - I could really mess up his life, as much as he could mess up mine. But he was so charming - truly. I was almost ready to do it. But - *Fate fortunately stepped in* at the right time.

Looking back, I think he may just had been trying to answer my questions, too, and that's all he was trying to do, but - I wanted this so badly (D/s) for so long that I built him up in my head, and dreamed about him all the time. He was great at giving me the personal attention I craved just by passing along info or answering questions (and most of his answers were given back to me in a non-sexual context).

It was maybe or maybe not obvious to him by how much I wrote to him, but he always answered my e-mails. I wanted to meet him and mentioned maybe attending the Black Rose convention with him in November coming up. But he was a big lover of the notion of the 'mindfuck' and he "tried out that notion on me in ways that might have been more appealing had I known him better - but that should have been a "red flag" to me to simply STOP (true for me only, here, in that situation).


Twist of Fate and stroke of dumb luck - My husband found the (Story of "O", and "Different Loving") on my night table (where I'd left them on purpose, and which he'd ignored for a long time, too - never even asked why they were there. One day, for some reason, he just started asking me what "O" was about.

I still missed my on-line mentor and was still fantasizing about him, but I wrote him and told him I could not write him anymore, that I felt so guilty, thanked him for answering my Q's and apologizing for any notion of 'leading him on' he might have (and cried the whole time I did it). He was so adult, and so mature - I am pretty sure he'll be okay. I am now (but it took awile, and I still occasionally wonder what he is doing and with who, and a wistfulness fills me that I cannot explain.

His profile is now gone from the DungeonNet personals site - and I remember when I discovered it had disappeared, I was so upset. It had been on there for 3 years, and just 2 months ago, was suddenly gone. He must have found someone, and I can still get kinda wistful thinking about what "might have been" (I have a very vivid imagination, and am pretty sentimental). I did contemplate contacting him two months ago - just to say "hi" - but it would have been an unwise move. I tried to stay busy with other things (and have plenty to do, so that part is easy).

I know our two situations aren't exactly the same, but - maybe the feelings resulting from them are. But maybe, I will send him a bdsm Xmas card, and we can be friends - I can thank him for getting me started in the right direction and giving me so much good information - because it IS working out w/my hubby as far as incorporating this stuff into our lives, and his info was "the catalyst" for that - his willingness and fate pointed me in the right direction.

In retrospect, knowing him turned out to be a good thing (I am pretty sentimental when it comes to thougtful gestures, and that took some retrospection, to reach that conclusion for me). Don't write him - someone else out there will want you and give you what you need - I just know it. Just try to have faith and see what happens.Something good is coming, it will happen when you least expect it, I think. Good luck. - susannah


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RE: Active Profiles ? - 10/26/2004 11:31:03 PM   
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Quietgirl~

First of all, welcome. I don't think I've seen your handle crop up before so allow me to say howdy to you. This is a great place to come for anything from questions to just "hanging out" as they say (although I have never been entirely sure what was ganging from where)

As to your actual question, if he simply ceased contact, I would suggest patience, as it has been less than a week. I've been dragged away from the computer for a fortnight or more without warning. However, for his profile to have been deleted indicates a more substantial problem. If he had been deleted by another (for perhaps some indescretion such as ignoring the ToS) I am sure he would have made every effort to contact you and inform you of his status. Perhaps he still will, as it has been less than a week, but I do not think so. Saadly, dear, I do believe you have been "played" (a euphemism I, as a gamer, frequently take umbrage at, but it does seem he may have been playing games with your affections).

You have my deepest sympathies, but you should not despair. HE was the one lucky enough to find you. You can, and no doubt WILL, find better.

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