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adommeforu -> RE: Depression (10/22/2006 10:34:05 AM)
Then again, some of U/us are prepared to loose their jobs to help the client no matter what the service provider states, so not all somke and mirrors MGA2 [I have lost three and been to court twice in the last 18mths, defending clients rights]

michaelGA2 -> RE: Depression (10/22/2006 10:36:20 AM)
i think i'd best leave this thread alone...comments i make would bring the wrath of alot of people.

texancutie -> RE: Depression (10/22/2006 11:09:44 AM)
Glad to hear the OP is better. As a former Social Worker I know a little about Sam-e. There are some issues with it since it is an over the counter product and not regulated nor prescribed by mental health professionals. So people should be aware of that as well. Here they are... What you should know if you’re thinking of trying SAM-e, we recommend caution for the following reasons: • So far the possible benefits and long-term risks remain unclear. • Though its marketers boldly claim that SAM-e has no side effects, people taking high doses have reported headache, stomach upset, insomnia, and dizziness. • If you are suffering from depression, you should seek medical advice before you dose yourself with anything. Depression is treatable but requires professional care. • People with bipolar disorder should avoid SAM-e because it may bring on manic episodes. It’s not a good idea to use SAM-e to treat any form of severe depression. It can interact with anti-depressants. • SAM-e will not repair liver damage brought on by heavy drinking—contrary to claims. • People with Parkinson’s disease should avoid SAM-e. • If you have joint pain, you might decide that SAM-e is worth a try, but don’t give up conventional treatments, and be sure your doctor knows you are using this supplement. • The most important problem: SAM-e is converted into homocysteine in the body. High homocysteine levels appear to raise the risk of heart disease. • SAM-e may claim to be better than conventional drugs, but it is certainly not less expensive. Dosages of anywhere from 200 on up to 1,000 milligrams daily are recommended by manufacturers. This can cost from $2 to $18 daily, and you have to take it over the long term. This is great for those selling SAM-e, but it may not be so good for you. • Because there is no regulation of supplements in this country, you don’t know what you’re getting. A recent test by ConsumerLab.com, for instance, found that one expensive brand contained only 30% of the claimed amount. Even if SAM-e were an effective drug—and it’s far from certain that it is—you can’t count on getting a reliable product with a standardized dose. And nobody yet knows what the right dose might be. Just wanted to post some information on it, since it was mentioned as a treatment for depression. I understand people are responsible adults and will do what they wish to do anyway....so this is just food for thought.

wantitnow569 -> RE: Depression (10/22/2006 11:37:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA2 the problem with "professionals" is that, in my experience, they really don't give a damn. they are paid to "act" like they care, but it's all smoke and mirrors. ah yes, Michael....Thank Your for that well thought out, and non too generalizing or judgemental statement..The view up here from my weell paid for but hardly earned ivory tower is awesome thanks for asking...(NOT!!!) Sorry, but my two biggest pet peeves about this "profession" are 1. People who insist i don't care...who, btw, have no idea how difficult it is to deal with someones death, suicide, or poor choices.. and 2. who insist that i'm in it for the money...(when clearly someone working at a grocery store full time makes better money than i do)...

jthorne -> RE: Depression (10/22/2006 5:55:51 PM)
I am passively suicidal all the time, and I don't wish to get into why. But I get around the depression...I find the joy in life. I actively SEEK the joy. It can be the tiny things, like watching a movie I love and getting all happy reciting the lines and jokes I know by heart, or when my cat cuddles up with me to sleep, or when my good friend randomly texts me with "boobies!" I take pleasure in what I eat...seriously, when I'm about to break because of my busy schedule, setting aside the time to cook something that didn't come pre-frozen in a tray will do WONDERS. And yes, of course you do not want to eat when depressed. Find soothing teas you like, hot or cold. Miso soup is fantastic and will give you many nutrients while just being a nice warm saltiness that's easy to digest. Buy your favourite fruits, in small quantities of course, and put them at the front of the fridge where they can tantalize you. This will do extra for you...you'll feel good because fruits are so good for you, they taste so fabulous, and you are WORTH this treat. I can't be anything but happy after I've eaten a pomegranate, even though my hands are stained and I've gone through eight paper towels. I've trained myself to find the happiness in the tiny things, so I can sustain myself when the world crashes down around me. And finding happiness in the little things doesn't take much effort at all. Perhaps you could try a time or two, see if it works for you? Pills are just too much bother in the long run, especially when you go off them. [:'(]

knees2you -> RE: Depression (10/22/2006 10:27:35 PM)
*My father killed himself many Years ago!* *But even though I miss him, and the* *fact that they put me on all* *different kinds of meds.* *I have survived!* *Now the only meds I'm on are of* *a Spiritual kind.* *Faith can do a lot for You.[sm=flying.gif]* *Your in Our Prayers....* *Ant, & LilBecque[sm=news.gif]*

Lashra -> RE: Depression (10/23/2006 5:03:48 AM)
Depression often occurs in people suffering from Sleep Apnea as does a host of other psychological ills. I would say see a mental health profession about it and get on some meds and therapy. Yes you can take them temporarily, I did and they take time, but they do help. Good luck, ~Lashra

onestandingstill -> RE: Depression (10/24/2006 1:50:14 PM)
I would accept grieving is part of a normal process we all go through when we lose loved ones. Hell it took me three months to stop crying when I left my only Dom. I cried over stupid things that would not have bothered me before too. The depression you're feeling is not from a chemical imbalance from what you've said the birth control fixed that. This is a reaction to an action. To me that's way different then mental issues or chemical imbalances. I think in time the tears will dry up once you've processed your loss. I'd say don't get too upset over your tears in this instance as they are what normal healthy minded people experience at the end of a relationship with someone too. When the thoughts about taking your own life come up just remember if you do that maybe the best thing that ever happened to you won't be able to. That and all your family and friends would be hurt by your actions and would miss you. Be strong and don't do anything impulsive till you feel better. You can get through this. suzanne

onestandingstill -> RE: Depression (10/24/2006 2:02:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes For the record, my not wanting to go on medication isn't about any stigma I feel it will attach to me ... I just honestly feel like I don't always need it, and knowing that medications like anti-depressants require long term use to be affective just bothers me when I think about using them for my transient episodes. I'd have to be on them all the time, even though I don't feel like I need them all the time - and that's $$ that we just don't have right now. That's why I tried SAM-e first ... that has multiple benefits besides just the mood leveling, so I don't feel so bad about taking it every day - it also doesn't have side effects (as long as I remember to take my b-complex supplement). As far as supplements I've heard St Johns Wort is the mother of prozac. I know if you're diabetic or have high blood pressure you're not supposed to take it. Also if you take other medicines check with a pharmacist first. Maybe taking that would help you. I'd try that before chemical pills. At least it's a natural herbal supplement. suzanne

onestandingstill -> RE: Depression (10/24/2006 2:04:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes quote: >find an experienced and understanding dom and submit to regular floggings Randomly, why would you suggest this to a Domme? It just seems kind of odd to me. Sassy - I am trying herbals/naturals ... I hadn't thought about using Valerian root for that, although I know it's supposed to help with sleep (they suggested that Holly use that when she had stopped sleeping, told her to try that before the melatonin). I suppose I should dig out some of my old reference books and look through them again (I know I have one somewhere that has a lot of "nature's pharmacy" type things in it ... but can't find the blasted thing). Valerian Root is a muscle relaxer. It may make you feel more relaxed and tired, or it may make you chill out. I use it for sore muscles or things of that nature. I've not heard it used to fight the blues before. suzanne edited to say I personally agree a spanking leaves me in endorphin euphoria for a day or so. I think the man was just trying to help, not to flame you.

Celeste43 -> RE: Depression (10/30/2006 10:46:23 AM)
Antidepressants can take up to six weeks to be effective. However they can also work in as little as four days. My suicidal depression lifted on Zoloft in just that short an amount of time. Therapy is needed but the depression must be lifted first so that the therapy can be effective. The time to teach a person to swim is not while they are drowning. First you get them out of there and get them back to health, and then you start the swim lessons. As far as short term, what I was told about the SSRI's is that 70% of people recover fully after 18 months, another 15% require 2 1/2 to 5 years and the remainder must remain on them for life. However short term meaning less than six months is not recommended because the depression commonly rebounds and will not then prove treatable by the med which originally worked. Please see a medical specialist as soon as possible and know you have people pulling for you. In the meantime make a list of all the things you used to enjoy and now do not, then force yourself to do one of them on the list daily. Having a bubble bath even if it doesn't appeal will help if you used to enjoy it. Be good to yourself, you're worth it.

michaelGA2 -> RE: Depression (10/30/2006 10:48:29 AM)
sometimes anti-depressants don't work at all. for me, they seem to only work for 3 months and then it's like taking placebos. damn immune system.

sophia37 -> RE: Depression (10/30/2006 12:32:54 PM)
I used anti depressents for four weeks to help me thru a very troubling period in my life. But I also went to a counseler to help me get through it. I never felt stigmatized. I felt relief that assistance was so darn easy to come by. I just stopped taking the pills when I was ready. Which was like I said, within the month. I know people have said the pills take a while, but for me they worked overnight. They defintely blocked the worst part of what I was feeling. And THAT was exactly what I needed at the time. Then I thanked the counseler and went my now somewhat-more merry way. It couldnt hurt to try.

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