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English prison officer jailed under new extreme porn laws - 11/19/2011 3:02:39 AM

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I heard about this either on the radio or on "look north" BBC news, from what I remember he was a welfare officer, possibly at Wakefield prison.

I am sorry for the vagueness here but I'm buggered if I can find any article on the web about it. I'd be curious to know what exactly were the offences.

RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/19/2011 3:27:08 AM

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http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/wakefield_housing_officer_caught_with_child_pornography_at_work_1_3972113

Is it that? That article says he's avoided jail, but maybe something else happened in 3 days?

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/19/2011 9:05:35 AM

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Really? Your thread title talks about "extreme" porn laws. Child porn being against the law is extreme to you?

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/19/2011 9:06:46 AM

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As he was found with child porn, I can't understand why he is NOT in jail and for a damn long time.

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/19/2011 9:08:54 AM

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I'm guessing (and hoping) that the link Lilly found was NOT the story the OP heard.

That or the OP heard much less of the story than what's in the link.

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/22/2011 10:44:39 PM

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The extreme porn laws don't cover the child porn from what I remember that's a separate law. Feel free to correct me anyone if I'm wrong.

They cover sadism to the breasts, genitalia and anus, and where the subjects life appears to be in danger, as well as bestiality and necrophilia. They also cover staged acts made to look like this.

If the story is indeed the one Lilly found then I would guess the OP was misinformed or had misheard.

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/23/2011 1:35:37 AM

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quote:

Feel free to correct me anyone if I'm wrong.

Well as long as your asking for it .....

What you say about the child porn is correct. That is covered elsewhere in the law other than the CJIB. However, the claim about how it applies to staged photos is out of date.

In the original draft of the bill there were multiple uses of the term "or appears to". However, when that was written the lawmakers had simply forgotten about consensual BDSM. It hadn't crossed their mind. When it was pointed out to them they quickly updated it and in the version that eventual became law that term was removed. On top of that a section was added directly giving exception to any pictures of consensual acts as long as it is not consensual bestiality or consensual eyes-gouged-out / consensual limbs-hacked-off.

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/23/2011 1:48:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/wakefield_housing_officer_caught_with_child_pornography_at_work_1_3972113

Is it that? That article says he's avoided jail, but maybe something else happened in 3 days?

I am guessing Kalikshama is right and this isnt the story the OP is thinking of.

In the above case the guy was a housing officer, not prison officer. He had indecent images of children on his computer but not porn. That said, he did have pictures of beastiality. The problem was they were downloaded prior to the new laws taking effect. This would be why he wasnt jailed.

Here is the story I think the Op meant, in which a prison officer (governor no less) was jailed.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/ex_south_yorks_prison_chief_jailed_in_extreme_porn_case_1_3985414

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/23/2011 11:36:28 AM

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In the original draft of the bill there were multiple uses of the term "or appears to". However, when that was written the lawmakers had simply forgotten about consensual BDSM. It hadn't crossed their mind. When it was pointed out to them they quickly updated it and in the version that eventual became law that term was removed.

Ah thanks, I never heard it was revised beyond the clause you can be in the picture. :)

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/27/2011 9:16:44 AM

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Really? Your thread title talks about "extreme" porn laws. Child porn being against the law is extreme to you?

Obviously I'm not defending any manner of nonce.

The radio snippet I heard, I am fairly sure mentioned pleading guilty to 2 offences, specifically mentioning "extreme" rather than children... If he was a kiddie fiddler I wouldn't have mentioned it here!

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/27/2011 7:57:42 PM

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Really? Your thread title talks about "extreme" porn laws. Child porn being against the law is extreme to you?

Obviously I'm not defending any manner of nonce.

The radio snippet I heard, I am fairly sure mentioned pleading guilty to 2 offences, specifically mentioning "extreme" rather than children... If he was a kiddie fiddler I wouldn't have mentioned it here!

Well if Politesub53 has the correct case, the guy was looking at the stuff at work, so I still really can't muster up any sympathy for the guy.

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RE: English prison officer jailed under new extreme por... - 11/28/2011 11:16:20 AM

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Well if Politesub53 has the correct case, the guy was looking at the stuff at work, so I still really can't muster up any sympathy for the guy.

Assuming this was the case in question it gets even worse. The article linked just mentions the CJIB without going into WHAT kind of 'extreme porn' is in question.

A different article mentions that it was bestiality pictures. That would put it under section 7(d) of the law. In addition, he was not only just downloading them, but was sending them to others. That would make what he did iligal under the OPA as well as the CJIB. Add to that his solicitation for underage sex and Im willing to bet that the CJIB violation is only one of the multiple things he was found guilty of and it is just that the newspaper articles are just listing one.

Seriously, this paranoia about how the CJIB makes people into criminals if they put pics of over the knee spankings into their online profile has got to stop. I have seen this insanity going on since it started with Liz Longhurst in 2005. In all that time, despite numerous cries of woe lamenting that BDSM as we know it is on the brink of destruction, there has been a grand total of zero cases of what-it-is-that-we-do ever being successfully taken to court. Everyone needs to finally learn that this law is no threat against the BDSM community.

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