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Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 9:03:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I just have to wonder what freaky little place this creature is sheikh OF and keep it off my "places to visit in the UK" list. However....it could be a good place for my "snipe hunting" list...............

I think "it" has eaten too many camel droppings



I was a shiekh in my native land, but that was before I had to take up residence in the UK, at the 17th century mansion of Fallowfield Hall. This was necessary to manage my family's business interests over here.

Camel droppings are not a delicacy and are not eaten but used as fuel by my brethren who still roam the deserts.

If you add where I live to your list of places not to visit in the UK, that may be good; at least there will be one American who does not believe they have a God-given right to stomp all over the world and meddle in affairs that do not concern them.




bignipples2share -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 9:13:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

Women are not "lesser citizens" but they are different and the pretence that they are somehow equal to men is one of the fallacies that should have ended with the 20th century. Someone remarked earlier about the wisdom of grandparents. Well, my grandfather believed in the maxim that one should never quite trust "any critter that bleeds for a week and still lives". Whilst I am not sure I would go quite that far, the physiological effects must adversely affect reasoning and judgement to the extent that a woman who lacks the guidance and help of a man is truly to be pitied. It was probably for want of such assistance that the young woman responded to Bugei as she did.


I'm sure you know, by this point in your life, the accumulation of blood is solely for reproductive purposes, is not required for mental processing of thoughts and ideas, is merely excess and is expelled when no longer needed for reproduction after that cycle.On the other hand, I'd just like to ask if you intend to make it a habit of posting to the forum while your penis is erect. ~Big_____________________ahhhh I see sounds




wandersalone -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 9:46:09 AM)

part of the OP -"Her response makes me wonder if what we do is becoming to popular and attracting the wrong people, or if better communication is required to get over the fundamentals of what we do". -----

I don't feel that bdsm could ever get too popular as the more people who come to learn and find that they are interestd in bdsm...well it means more chances of us all finding what we are looking for ...well speaking for those that are looking....grins

As for attracting the wrong people, who are we to determine who is right and who is a wrong type of person.  If they show an interest in bdsm and want to learn more then we should encourage this and provide information if asked about safety aspects, safe calls etc etc.

How can we communicate more effectively the fundamentals of what we do - within bdsm there is such a huge array of kinks, fetishes, dom, domme, switch, sub, slave, plaything, pet etc etc and if you asked ten people to explain the fundamentals of what bdsm means to them and what they do I am pretty sure you would get ten different answers. 

regards

wanders




Clothespingirl -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 9:54:55 AM)

Hee!  Very funny!  Things must be a bit slow at Fallowfield Hall - I see from the University of Manchester website that it's one of the IT buildings, not a residence.  So since you have no bed, I guess you have to sit up all night on the computer.

George Bush a liberal!  Hee!  What else will you think of?




amayos -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 11:36:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bugei

I just sent some advice to a young girl, who called her self a slave, about an inappropriate statement that she had put in her profile. This statement was in effect an order, not a request, to Dominants reading this supposed submissives profile.
Her response makes me wonder if what we do is becoming to popular and attracting the wrong people, or if better communication is required to get over the fundamentals of what we do.


Quality opening communication is always important; one's first impression is crucial and it is well to choose words with care, even if they are to be sparse. Having said that, I've likewise noticed there are many who are incapable of rational on-line behavior—even when being paid a simple compliment. I have likewise engaged in some less than enchanting email discourse with people who may mean well, but in the end are afflicted with type tone deafness.

Regarding the idea that BDSM has become too popular: I tend to agree with this, as much as it pains me to do so. This is (sadly) a reason why I often shy away from using BDSM to describe what I do lately. There is so much popular use of the concept, despite the validity of the words which make up the acronym. Right around when "TPE" and "subspace" became very trendy terms and the army of modern fetish models commenced their invasion, I was beginning to realize "my people" weren't my people at all; they were either kinky wagon jumper weekenders, goofy leather fetishists on Harleys with half a clue or narcissistic burlesque model retro pin-up wannabes and their cohorts who congregated in clubs or around cheesy horror flicks and much alcohol.




Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 11:37:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Clothespingirl
Hee!  Very funny!  Things must be a bit slow at Fallowfield Hall - I see from the University of Manchester website that it's one of the IT buildings, not a residence.  So since you have no bed, I guess you have to sit up all night on the computer.


What did you do, look for "Fallowfield Hall" on Google? Then you went to http://www.stars.manchester.ac.uk/itservices/itfacilities/, saw that there was a cluster of IT services at the new halls of residence in Fallowfield and did the mental equivalent of getting 69 by adding 2 and 3.

What makes you suppose that a private residence, even a Grade 2* listed building such as Fallowfield Hall, would be listed on Google? It is not open to the public and, if you knew the sort of riff-raff and other low-life that reside in the neighbouring council estate, you might begin to understand why. When the local council rejected my application to keep tigers in the grounds, I had to resort to razor wire fences. Now one of the local criminals is complaining that he cut himself when he tried to climb over and that it is my fault because I unstructed my head gardener to plant clematis to cover the fence.

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ORIGINAL: Clothespingirl

George Bush a liberal!  Hee!  What else will you think of?



Who else but a raving feminist liberal would have appointed a woman to be in charge of American foreign policy?

Or did he look at her name, Condoleesa, and think that she was Hispanic?




Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 11:48:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bignipples2share

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

Women are not "lesser citizens" but they are different and the pretence that they are somehow equal to men is one of the fallacies that should have ended with the 20th century. Someone remarked earlier about the wisdom of grandparents. Well, my grandfather believed in the maxim that one should never quite trust "any critter that bleeds for a week and still lives". Whilst I am not sure I would go quite that far, the physiological effects must adversely affect reasoning and judgement to the extent that a woman who lacks the guidance and help of a man is truly to be pitied. It was probably for want of such assistance that the young woman responded to Bugei as she did.


I'm sure you know, by this point in your life, the accumulation of blood is solely for reproductive purposes, is not required for mental processing of thoughts and ideas, is merely excess and is expelled when no longer needed for reproduction after that cycle.On the other hand, I'd just like to ask if you intend to make it a habit of posting to the forum while your penis is erect. 


A psychoanalyst friend tells me that, whenever he sees such evident hysteria from a woman, her problems are likely to have been caused by the trauma of playing "doctors and nurses" as a child and thus seeing that boys have penises whereas girls do not. Apparently, it is a neurotic form of jealousy.

I do not entirely believe this, as I am convinced that much of the problem is the effect of powerful hormones on the (smaller) female brain and that, in a week or two, the woman should start to feel better. It may help to drink lots of fruit juice or spring water to detox the body.

But whatever may have caused your hysteria, thank you for having confirmed the veracity of what I wrote. Had you been under the guidance of a man, you plainly would not have posted as you did.





LaTigresse -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 11:51:50 AM)



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I was a shiekh in my native land, but that was before I had to take up residence in the UK, at the 17th century mansion of Fallowfield Hall. This was necessary to manage my family's business interests over here.

Camel droppings are not a delicacy and are not eaten but used as fuel by my brethren who still roam the deserts.

If you add where I live to your list of places not to visit in the UK, that may be good; at least there will be one American who does not believe they have a God-given right to stomp all over the world and meddle in affairs that do not concern them.

[/quote]

Welllllll shiekh, since I hold no regard for titles......here in the my neighbourhood, a  21st century farm people have to earn respect they do not get to be born to it. And while I am an american it is very ignorant of you to lump ALL americans into one mass just as it is very ignorant of you to lump all women together into one mass. I personally gave up stomping when I was a child and realized temper tantrums did not get me nearly as much as manners, something you seem to be sorely lacking. Nor do I believe our current government policies are something to be respected. I do not nor have I ever supported our current president or his penchant for meddling in affairs that we were not asked to meddle in. If I had my way he would be acting like a leader instead of another power hungry idiot MALE politician! Considering you seem to think that men are so much more adept at running everything, business and governments I am quite simply shocked that you would have anything but praise for all male run governments. You know, the ones that seem to be quite intent on "meddling"!!




LaTigresse -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 11:54:42 AM)

OMG did Disney or Tim Burton create this character!!! I am trying to be pissy but I just keep laughing too hard.




Clothespingirl -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:06:36 PM)

No, darlin', I went straight to the University of Manchester website - since that's the most likely place to find large concentrations of 18-year-old wankers!  (If you really are in Manchester, of course!) [;)]

Yeah, yeah, you got a big private house surrounded by razor wire - because rich guys with big houses spend a lot of time on websites looking for wimmens!  They can't get any wimmens by flashing their money around, poor fellows. [:(]

Honestly, I don't think there ARE any women in the UK, you guys spend so much time on line! [:D]

(Oh, and if appointing Condoleeza makes Georgie a liberal, I guess it makes him black, too!  <snicker>)




Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:29:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Welllllll shiekh, since I hold no regard for titles......here in the my neighbourhood, a  21st century farm people have to earn respect they do not get to be born to it. And while I am an american it is very ignorant of you to lump ALL americans into one mass just as it is very ignorant of you to lump all women together into one mass. I personally gave up stomping when I was a child and realized temper tantrums did not get me nearly as much as manners, something you seem to be sorely lacking. Nor do I believe our current government policies are something to be respected. I do not nor have I ever supported our current president or his penchant for meddling in affairs that we were not asked to meddle in. If I had my way he would be acting like a leader instead of another power hungry idiot MALE politician! Considering you seem to think that men are so much more adept at running everything, business and governments I am quite simply shocked that you would have anything but praise for all male run governments. You know, the ones that seem to be quite intent on "meddling"!!



I do hope you feel better, now that you have vented your anger. Whatever the cause of  female hysteria may be (and some say it is caused by PCB pollution in the water supply) it seems safe to suppose that cathartic postings may help to relieve the mental turmoil that seems to afflict some women more than most.

I can also understand why you might not wish to get appropriate treatment for your condition, as some doctors (especially country doctors) may still believe that lesbianism can be treated as a form of neurosis. On the other hand, the Koran makes no mention of the problem, though it does forbid male homosexualism. Perhaps that is because Arabic men are so virile that their women do not need to seek other forms of gratification, or simply because women have less to be chopped off?




zumala -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:59:23 PM)

Sheikh, do you have anything better to do than reply to every female poster with an insult?  I can understand replying to a post, but not insulting everyone based on their gender.  You don't like America.  Fine.  You don't like women.  Fine.  But you don't have to go around insulting people repeatedly.  Manners are appreciated and expected in any adult forum.
 
zuma




SimplyV -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 1:07:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

Who but a wimp would let a woman chide or scold him in such a vulgar manner?

In years gone by, the criminal penalty for a woman using bad language in public or
to a man was to be locked for hours or even days in a scolds' brank; the spiked
metal tongue-piece would still her wagging tongue and she would learn some manners.
She would probably also be flogged in public or round the walls of the town. We have
truly lost a great deal of value from western culture to the creeping cancer of feminism.


I totally agree with you.  What numberous traditions and cultural beliefs have been lost because of  feminism!

Now if I were male, I'm sure I'd agree with you that this loss is a horrible thing.  But being a woman, well.. I happen to like it.

As far as speaking out, women have been speaking out for a long long time.  And I'm sure they even do so in your culture.  Just ask any sub/slave about the ways they have of influencing their Dominant without saying a word, while they don't like revealing their secrets I know each one has a method they use which their Dom cannot punish them for..   Even if its just being emotionally distant.

Every great man has been occompanied by an even greater woman.  Even you has to agree that every team is only as good as its weakest link.




Sub03 -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 1:08:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I just have to wonder what freaky little place this creature is sheikh OF and keep it off my "places to visit in the UK" list. However....it could be a good place for my "snipe hunting" list...............

I think "it" has eaten too many camel droppings



he lives in the UK but he is middle eastern




amayos -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 1:18:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SimplyV
Every great man has been [a]ccompanied by an even greater woman. 


Umm, no.




Sub03 -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 1:19:11 PM)


[/quote]

A psychoanalyst friend tells me that, whenever he sees such evident hysteria from a woman, her problems are likely to have been caused by the trauma of playing "doctors and nurses" as a child and thus seeing that boys have penises whereas girls do not. Apparently, it is a neurotic form of jealousy.

I do not entirely believe this, as I am convinced that much of the problem is the effect of powerful hormones on the (smaller) female brain and that, in a week or two, the woman should start to feel better. It may help to drink lots of fruit juice or spring water to detox the body.

But whatever may have caused your hysteria, thank you for having confirmed the veracity of what I wrote. Had you been under the guidance of a man, you plainly would not have posted as you did.


[/quote]

hmmmm smaller brain huh?? Well this "small" brain has a big vocabulary and not all the words are nice ones, would please me sooooooo much to go off on you sheikh but i think i am going to take the high ground here and just say that you are an idiot. Feel free to follow whatever beliefs you want but this is america and women whether slaves, subs or anything else are equal to men and amazingly enough we can survive without them if we want to. Some women even *gasp* Dom men and guess what.....the men like it and ask for it *gasp*.....wow amazing isnt it. So guess what your beliefs are not going to go over very well here.




cloudboy -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 1:42:42 PM)


AMAYOS!!! I see you've been inspired by the X-MEN.




amayos -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 2:14:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


AMAYOS!!! I see you've been inspired by the X-MEN.


Did I mention that I'd serve as Mystique's footstool?




ElizabethDVall -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 2:23:09 PM)

I also see many have been inspired by myself![&:]

Now, was it not TOO long ago, that someone criticised me for speaking non submissively?

Seems like all the girls have caught the bug![;)]

Whatever, this is fun.[:D]

Elizabeth / o^^




angelface183 -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 2:32:49 PM)

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 Now, was it not TOO long ago, that someone criticised me for speaking non submissively?


No darlin' you are missing the point.  You were not being criticized, your Master was.  He was being criticized for being a hypocrite.  He chastised a woman with an unwanted, unrequested, and unwarranted email for stating that she would block people who issued a chat request without a prior introduction (a perfectly reasonable request if you ask me).  He then took issue with her manners.  You then displayed your less than perfect manners opening Him up to ridicule and criticism, not you.  The point being, if His sub is not 100% "perfect" then what right does He have telling a complete stranger how to behave or conduct herself?!?!

You have every right to behave as you wish, just as the young woman does whom your Master mentioned in the OP.  The difference is that He has a right to critque and comment upon your actions, but has absolutely no such claim on the other young woman and was out of bounds to do so.




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