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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 5:25:29 PM   
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I wonder if we could raise our own ham lol. We raise chickens and turkeys and ginni hens, and We are zoned to have farm animals on our property.

Dad probably w*ouldn't go for it lol.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 5:27:48 PM   
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GOOD hams are pricey. I mean country hams. Best ham I have ever had is Jamon Iberico. It is insanely expensive.
http://blissfulglutton.com/food-find-jamon-iberico-at-star-provisions/
I wish I had known about Serrano ham when I was in Spain 88. I was right there in Andalucia. Granada. Fuck. I've always liked to try what is considered "the best".

Anyway, Virginia hams are the easiest to find, I think.




It is unlikely that she will see a country ham, mostly you see city hams at the grocery store.

And with all of the "second meals" you can make, it really does make them rather cheap.

Of course, I routinely make extra food in order to freeze it for later meals. I do not always want to cook and they extra prep really takes very little more time.
True enough. I use city ham in my split pea soup (mint, too). Costco usually has some good city hams, spiral-sliced, IIRC.


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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 6:58:07 PM   
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Thank you, I do say so myself I loooooooooooove my crock pot.


I've seen turkey recipes I wanted to try, only turkeys are very expensive to get and to big for this family alone, so I have always contemplated one day getting a whole hen and doing the recipe on the whole hen instead of a turkey.
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Ya, boneless skinless breast is not the best for the crockpot. Earlier this week, I used a whole chicken which was $1.39/#.

After 5 hours on low I took it out, let it cool a bit, deboned it, and threw it back it. Complete recipe earlier in this thread.

I'm really happy to see you cooking and learning!





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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 8:27:59 PM   
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GOOD hams are pricey. I mean country hams. Best ham I have ever had is Jamon Iberico. It is insanely expensive.
http://blissfulglutton.com/food-find-jamon-iberico-at-star-provisions/
I wish I had known about Serrano ham when I was in Spain 88. I was right there in Andalucia. Granada. Fuck. I've always liked to try what is considered "the best".

Anyway, Virginia hams are the easiest to find, I think.




It is unlikely that she will see a country ham, mostly you see city hams at the grocery store.


tfb lives in the south. Decent country hams can be had in about any grocery store in the south for $2/pound or less and they'll generally slice it for you free. I can almost always find one for $1.89/lb this time of year if I'm patient and wait for a sale.

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I need dried beans an brown rice an veggies recipe - 12/9/2011 8:47:12 PM   
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I believe we have dried pinto beans maybe some white ones. I don't really like Lima bean stuff though. A recipe where the bean type are interchangeable or canned is great. Ty.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 8:47:41 PM   
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I wonder if we could raise our own ham lol. We raise chickens and turkeys and ginni hens, and We are zoned to have farm animals on our property.

Dad probably w*ouldn't go for it lol.
Pigs are more work, and eat more. We had 'em when we moved out from Rochester to halfway to Niagara Falls.

Then again, if you raised them to be "artesan" pigs, could make some money.




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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 8:52:57 PM   
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GOOD hams are pricey. I mean country hams. Best ham I have ever had is Jamon Iberico. It is insanely expensive.
http://blissfulglutton.com/food-find-jamon-iberico-at-star-provisions/
I wish I had known about Serrano ham when I was in Spain 88. I was right there in Andalucia. Granada. Fuck. I've always liked to try what is considered "the best".

Anyway, Virginia hams are the easiest to find, I think.




It is unlikely that she will see a country ham, mostly you see city hams at the grocery store.


tfb lives in the south. Decent country hams can be had in about any grocery store in the south for $2/pound or less and they'll generally slice it for you free. I can almost always find one for $1.89/lb this time of year if I'm patient and wait for a sale.
I thought she lived out in the Sacramento area. Anyway, I don't recall seein' country hams at that price here in Marietta. Maybe I just go to the wrong stores, but wet-cures are usually around that price here. Or I could be rememberin' wrong. Been a few weeks since I looked at hams.


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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 8:57:01 PM   
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Crap, You're right HK. I have no idea why I thought she lived in NC.
mea culpa.
Here, they're 2.39/lb to 2.59/lb right now but right before Xmas, they'll go on sale and I'll get a couple. Hang one in the basement and have the other sliced.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 9:25:00 PM   
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Crap, You're right HK. I have no idea why I thought she lived in NC.
mea culpa.
Here, they're 2.39/lb to 2.59/lb right now but right before Xmas, they'll go on sale and I'll get a couple. Hang one in the basement and have the other sliced.
I should do that... country hams are best for mac n cheese, pizzas, almost anything. I just like wet-cure in my pea soup. Don't know why.

I really like Westphalian ham on pizza... with Kalamatas, Gruyere, fresh tomato slices, onions, and the sauce. Smoked cheddar & smoked Gouda work well, too. Country ham would be almost as good, and a damn sight cheaper.

Unfortunately, I gotta move from my house to my townhouse, and won't have a basement there. Sucks bigtime; I've been here in this house for over 22 years.

I googled "best hams" and there's some tasty-sounding stuff, mostly in the South, of course. Artesanal stuff. If I ever win the "rich GF lottery"...


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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 9:28:11 PM   
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After all of this, the OP will be eating frozen pizzas and drinking sodas anyway.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 9:30:11 PM   
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Try this HK. Get a really big tupperware container. Have the ham sliced and put it in the container and then cover it with cooking oil. Keep it in the fridge and it will last literally indefinitely without drying out or molding.

Just take out a slice (or a half slice) when you need one. Cut the rind off before you cook it tho unless you're tossing a piece of ham hock into a crock pot of something to season it. The rind is about as edible as shoe leather LOL.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 9:50:55 PM   
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Try this HK. Get a really big tupperware container. Have the ham sliced and put it in the container and then cover it with cooking oil. Keep it in the fridge and it will last literally indefinitely without drying out or molding.

Just take out a slice (or a half slice) when you need one. Cut the rind off before you cook it tho unless you're tossing a piece of ham hock into a crock pot of something to season it. The rind is about as edible as shoe leather LOL.
I am going to take my freezer with me. I have an extra fridge, too, which won't fit in this new kitchen until I widen the opening. So I might try that. I have a big storage room in the garage, but it's not A/C'd. Hanging is a no-go. Thanks for the tip.

Rinds would be good for ham stock. Just throw in some carrot peels, celery leaves and bottoms, onion tops and bottoms, some seasoning and maybe some herbs, and your good to go. Reduce it down to demiglace viscosity and make stock cubes for the freezer.


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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 9:54:01 PM   
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If you're gonna make ham stock, make sure you go thru all the slices and bone them (It's super easy as it's just a circle).

Toss those bone slices into the stock pot because they're full of marrow and add a chunk of the hock if you want as well.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 10:01:09 PM   
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If you're gonna make ham stock, make sure you go thru all the slices and bone them (It's super easy as it's just a circle).

Toss those bone slices into the stock pot because they're full of marrow and add a chunk of the hock if you want as well.
Oh, indeed. I don't know of roasting the bones would be of any use; good beef stocks and demiglace roast the bones.

Don't know how much we're helping tfb here, but I've learned a couple new things. Did you know Gor is in Spain?


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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 10:24:35 PM   
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Nah I am am picky about pizza being fresh, fresh beats frozen any day, and I drink crystal light, not soda, but nice guess.
But youshould get it right if your gonna shoot your mouth off.
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After all of this, the OP will be eating frozen pizzas and drinking sodas anyway.


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RE: I need dried beans an brown rice an veggies recipe - 12/9/2011 10:49:14 PM   
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I believe we have dried pinto beans maybe some white ones. I don't really like Lima bean stuff though. A recipe where the bean type are interchangeable or canned is great. Ty.


Soak the white beans overnight. Sauté your mirepoix* in some oil or butter, add a bit of garlic, some type of canned tomatoes (I like the small-diced but if nothing else you can use some ketchup), your soaked beans, a ham bone (remember that ham I told you to buy. . . put the bone with the meat on it in the freezer), and cover with water. Cook until beans are tender for eating. Yep, there are lots of spices and herbs that you can add to taste. I like cumin and mustard powder (you can use yellow mustard). But there is oregano and basil as well. Bay leaves. Thyme. Whatever. Serve with fresh pepper on top. Cornbread is a nice touch. Honey-butter if you like it or want to make it. Saltines are fine as well.

Now. . . this will make more than one meals worth. Freeze the extra for another meal. If you make a quarter-sheet (9x13x2) of cornbread, freeze half of that as well. You have another meal ready to heat and eat.

*Mirepoix - carrot, celery, onion. Used in most savory dishes that you will want to make.


You bought and cooked that ham, right?

Set aside a good chunk. . . about a pound. Make fried rice. Two cups uncooked rice. Cook it up. (Add 4 cups of water and simmer 20 minutes or use a rice cooker.) Unless you have an electric skillet, you will need to make 2 batches in a skillet. Heat some oil. Cover the bottom of the pan. Sauté some onion and garlic. Dice your ham and throw it in. Add curry powder, Cayenne pepper, and Cinnamon. Throw in your rice. Fry. Add a couple splashes of soy sauce (you can leave this out if you want.) Throw in a pound bag of frozen peas and carrots. I like to add a pound of broccoli also. Fry. When done add two somewhat beaten eggs. Stir until fried. Serve.


That ham again. . . the same one. It does take a while to use up.

Peel a about a pound of sweet potatoes and either slice them very thin or grate them. Spread half the sweet potatoes over the bottom of a shallow 1-1/2-quart casserole, sprinkle half of a grated orange rind over, and season with some pepper and nutmeg. (If you are using country ham, you probably won't need salt; otherwise season lightly with salt). Arrange overlapping pieces of ham over the sweet potatoes, spread mustard on top, then finish with the remaining sweet potatoes and a little more of the pepper and nutmeg. Pour about a cup and a half of milk over all. Cover lightly with foil and bake in a 375-degree F. oven 40 minutes. Remove the foil, sprinkle sesame seeds over the top, and bake another 15 to 20 minutes until the potatoes are tender and all the liquid has been absorbed. Serve.

Okay. . . you paid how much for your ham? This is 4 (5 if you count leftover soup) meals from one ham. Even when you add in the cost of the other ingredients, once you divide by four, you are at a couple of bucks per person per meal.

Large chunks of meat are worth the money.



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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 10:54:36 PM   
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TFB lives in California, not the south.  Just pointing that out.  Based on what she says she paid for her last bit of groceries, I'm afraid to know what a ham would cost her!

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/9/2011 11:43:44 PM   
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TFB lives in California, not the south.  Just pointing that out.  Based on what she says she paid for her last bit of groceries, I'm afraid to know what a ham would cost her!


My guess is that she does not buy on sale and that she really does not know the difference between the different cuts and branding of meats. That and how much should be purchased for a certain number of people. 24 dollars for a roast at even six dollars a pound (high) is four pounds of meat. Two pounds should feed everyone and there should be two more meals at a pound of meat each. A serving is four ounces, so I am being very generous with the meat ration.

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hams at foodmaxx - 12/10/2011 11:00:23 AM   
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One was 20 dollars, one was 13 and these were small hams. the 13 dollar ham was only half a ham. I'll keep an eye out for them going on sale and being cheaper , but at those prices, no thanks 20 dollars is 5-8 other grocery items.

Turkey was 1.28 a pound and the smallest poundages they had was like 24 pounds. I don't know if that's cheap or not, but considering we butchered almost all our turkeys I can get turkey from the fridge for free, true, it won't be whole, it'll be cut up, but meat is meat lol.

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RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore - 12/10/2011 11:03:39 AM   
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Nope, I don't know the different cuts of meat and what not, we shop at winco, and foodmaxx they're supposed to be cheaper than every one else, and I do try to shop sales, but the stores ideas of "sale prices" are usually a joke. Safeway and raleys and belair are 3 of the most expensive stores in town, and they're the one always having "sales"
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My guess is that she does not buy on sale and that she really does not know the difference between the different cuts and branding of meats. That and how much should be purchased for a certain number of people. 24 dollars for a roast at even six dollars a pound (high) is four pounds of meat. Two pounds should feed everyone and there should be two more meals at a pound of meat each. A serving is four ounces, so I am being very generous with the meat ration.


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