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tj444 -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:09:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic hes got a restraining order against him and charged with ABH. but she is getting a lot of blame and poo flung at her from his friends at uni and even some of her girlies are less than friendly a for getting him into trouble b for not letting him do what he wants, c for not being on the pill, so its her own fault She needs to stay strong and not let someone else or their opinions override her personal choices.. she needs that inner strength in all aspects of her life.. there will be many times she will be glad she has that in her.. She definately needs a better boyfriend and also needs some better girlie friends, the ones that are less than friendly now are showing they really friends at all. The ones that support her are her true friends.. On previous threads i posted links to surveys on young peoples attitudes to rape (any kind including long time girlfriend rape) etc and the attitudes are very disappointing and imo, shocking. Even young teens have those attitudes as they emulate their older siblings.. things really havent come as far as they should have, imo.. [:(]

JanahX -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:12:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: JanahX quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: I just dealt with a friend of my daughters who has a broken wrist caused by a pissed off boyfriend for not wanting to ride "bareback" I hope the police were contacted. Ten to one .. she stays with him.. goes back to him. And we the tax payers get to pay their domestic violence court costs. LOVE IT. wrong awesomesauce.. good for her. Someone needs to kick that prat in the balls so he thinks twice about his behavior.

Lucylastic -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:20:40 AM)
yeah well Ive been restrained from giving him a talking to. She is staying with my daughter at the moment and spending much time with us at home. Her own parents dont even think she is capable of having sex. Im not shy about defending her to anyone, while I cannot force her to stay away from him, so far she is a smart cookie. she isnt prepared to be anyones punching bag. Seems my "advice" is actually having a positive effect. Edited to add, I apologise for the hijack, I am very much in support of free birthcontrol for those who cannot afford it, and on a sliding scale. You arent gonna die from ED, you can die from pregnancy, the fact that you can die from allergies or health issues to either medication is NOT the point

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:34:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy FR Closing your legs is really free. Like theyre gonna actually fucking do that wilbur. That's the stupidest thing you've said in weeks. ETA That brought back memories of Nancy Reagan telling everyone to "Just say No"...................Right before our inner cities literally drowned in crack. You might think about the message behind the words and not the words themselves. Or is thinking too difficult for you? Thinking isn't difficult at all. I look at past history and use it to predict future behavior. Here's your choices, wilbur. 1. Taxpayer funded birth control. 2. Taxpayer funded WIC, Welfare, Education, More food stamps and more general drain on resources. "Just say no" Was and IS a fucking joke. People are going to fuck and we can't stop them. Maybe YOU should think for once in your life instead of sucking up that Right Wing "just say no" bullshit. It didn't work for drugs and it damn sure won't work for sex.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:36:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MedicineMan quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Would you rather pass out a few condoms or support and educate the spawn that results from their nonavalibility? Neither. Well, maybe in the Fox News fantasyland, 'neither' is an option. Here in the real world where the sky is blue, it isn't.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:40:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: igor2003 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: MedicineMan "No cost"? "Free"? Does it mean that developing, manufacturing and distribution of these things costs nothing, or rather that someone else is forced to pay the bill? Would you rather pass out a few condoms or support and educate the spawn that results from their nonavalibility? Guess what? Poor people are gonna fuck.. The choice of the taxpayers is to support birth control or the 9 months later result. As a taxpayer, I'd a hell of a lot rather buy condoms and BC pills. just so that some rich bitch doesn't have to co-pay for her birth control? Because that 'rich bitch' pays a hell of a lot more taxes than she gets back in govt benefits and might appreciate getting someting for it.

kalikshama -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:40:54 AM)
quote: I apologise for the hijack I don't consider this a hijack - I provided a study regarding men refusing to use condoms and you provided an anecdote - this is why women need access to a form of birth control they can control 100%.

farglebargle -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:41:08 AM)
Nickle tax on formula to pay for no-copay birth control. Problem solved.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:44:54 AM)
Fast reply to the OP here. Personally, I'd be in favor of mandatory tax payer supplied birth control for some people. (Welfare with 6 kids by 5 dads, etc) In the long run, it would save a hell of a lot of taxpayer dollars. Unfortunately, we're skirting over into eugenics there and that experiment didn't work too well.

Lucylastic -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:48:24 AM)
and what are the ACTUAL figures regarding females having six kids with five fathers?

popeye1250 -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:49:31 AM)
"No-cost" eh? Cool, how about some "no-cost" Mustangs and Cameros for the guys?

tazzygirl -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:51:25 AM)
You got Viagra.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:54:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and what are the ACTUAL figures regarding females having six kids with five fathers? Tossed out an an example lucy. There are some women around here that I'm not sure if they know what causes it.

Lucylastic -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:54:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 "No-cost" eh? Cool, how about some "no-cost" Mustangs and Cameros for the guys? Im so glad he hasnt muddied the gene pool

tazzygirl -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:58:01 AM)
Birth control is not just for birth control... Viagra isnt just for ED. But one is perfectly fine to be covered, the other is not.

Lucylastic -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 11:59:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and what are the ACTUAL figures regarding females having six kids with five fathers? Tossed out an an example lucy. There are some women around here that I'm not sure if they know what causes it. what about the fathers responsilbility ? the fact that birth control doesnt work well, they would be looked down on if they had abortions by the same people who decry them having sex and kids with so many men. Yes eugenics is not the way to go without real numbers, real cases and REAL solutions, not the welfare cadilac queen fear bullshit I very very often agree with you on many many things, but this we have a difference:)

tazzygirl -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 12:01:11 PM)
I think every woman should say no and close her legs unless she wants to get pregnant. That should be the only reason to have sex... pregnancy. Lets see how long the blue balls would win out.

BitaTruble -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 12:02:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Birth control is not just for birth control... Bingo. BCP's are the only treatment (not cure) available for people like me who suffer from endometriosis. I don't need birth control. I'm sterile. I do, however, need BCP's to treat my endo.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 12:04:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and what are the ACTUAL figures regarding females having six kids with five fathers? Tossed out an an example lucy. There are some women around here that I'm not sure if they know what causes it. what about the fathers responsilbility ? the fact that birth control doesnt work well, they would be looked down on if they had abortions by the same people who decry them having sex and kids with so many men. Yes eugenics is not the way to go without real numbers, real cases and REAL solutions, not the welfare cadilac queen fear bullshit I very very often agree with you on many many things, but this we have a difference:) Lucy, sometimes, they don't know who the daddy is or he's in jail or he's just plain useless.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Support No-Cost Birth Control for All Women (12/5/2011 12:05:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I think every woman should say no and close her legs unless she wants to get pregnant. That should be the only reason to have sex... pregnancy. Lets see how long the blue balls would win out. It works for priests doesn't it?

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