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SimplyMichael -> BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 9:50:55 AM)

As a few of you know, BossyShoeBitch and I had a not long enough torrid love affair that lasted for a few years. Less of you know of the occasional bitter fights we have had, but the fuel for those fights was the love (in the Philia sense) we had/have for each other. It has been a struggle at times for both of us to come back to the table so to speak, we have both had to struggle with different issues with maintaining the friendship.

So with that bit of preamble, I have two goals in writing this, one as a bit of ode to her and the other to extole the virtues of when possible, remaining friends with those who you shared deep relationships with. So, let me begin with BossyShoeBitch herself and then on to the virtues.

A few are still here from the days when I first appeared on CM but those who were know how much I have changed, certainly I hope for the better. Much of that growth is either directly or indirectly the result of her. When I write something gutting someone, I can hear her voice telling me to “be nice” as that is a trait that is deeply important to her and I often delete my first draft or two until I feel I am at least being more constructive. But that is simple stuff. Part of why she left me was because at the time, it would be charitable to describe my life as “static” and probably better to call it “slowly sliding downhill” and the deep and crushing pain of losing her caused me to spend the next half decade pushing myself to be better, to improve my lot in life. I had been successful before meeting her, owned a house, had a nice job etc, but things had changed and when I met her I was staying at my mom’s, working a dead end low paying job, and half assed going to school. She isn’t perfect either, those things ate at her, ate at her desire for me and she remained silent until it killed her desire for me. I have pushed her to be more open, more honest with her loved ones ever since and she has made great progress and I am deeply proud of that accomplishment on her part.

So, in those years I have pushed hard to become a success, I went into sales and have really found my path. Her approval is still important to me and she has often, even probably when she really didn’t care or was pissed at me, taken the time to show her pride in my small accomplishments on the path to where I am now. I actually blew her away the other day when I told her how far I had come. We sort of shared a personally relevant benchmark that I had been shooting for and I will blow past that early this year.

However, money is meaningless without real happiness in your life and there too she has helped me. I had worked out a lot of anger issues long before meeting her and we had an emotionally rather perfect relationship, or so I like to think. However, dealing with her AFTER we broke up was a nightmare of old issues. Resentment when I didn’t get what I wanted/expected from our friendship often drove me to lash out. She rarely if ever lashed back, she might step back, but she delt with my ugly side with the class and grace people her know and love her for. Took me a few years to start seeing it and a few years to bring it under control but in so doing it helped me in other areas of my life as well. In fact, in some ways her being my ex was probably the best thing that ever happened to me. In striving to fix the things that prevented us from being friends, pushed me to grow, made me face things I would not have had to deal with or would have been difficult to recognize otherwise.

Another important lesson was about happiness. I am hoping I can capture this in words but being with her was one of the happiest times in my life. I had an amazing beautiful woman who loved me deeply and things were perfect in my life. So when I lost ALL of that, I was the most miserable I had ever been and that sort of emotional pain is a wonderful catalyst for growth even if it experiencing it is dreadful. In hindsight, I realized that I was happy not because of her but because I CHOSE to be happy. We only saw each other for one weekend a month but I was happy going to events alone because I ALLOWED myself to be happy and content, I CREATED that happiness. We didn’t live together, so on some level it really wasn’t her presence in my life, it was my attitude toward life. I have in no way shape or form mastered manifesting that level of joy in my life but the effort to do so HAS made me a happier, more content person. She also, or we learned together, that we CAN have what we had in our lives and it has been both a blessing and curse. We will never settle for less, know what we can have, and are willing to wait for it.

Its not easy for either of at times to be friends, there is still emotional energy there that is at times not appropriate or distracting but it is also part of why we are drawn to each other. Learning to deal with all of this has truly deepened our relationship with ourselves and the partners each of us have in our lives. We know each other better than anyone and we are able, when we are talking (lol) to offer insight to each other that no other person in our lives to date can match. She is a very special woman, one I was blessed to love and one I am certainly blessed to have as a friend. We struggle, it is not always easy but it is always worth it.
So, long ramble, but I haven’t been able to write in a long time using an actual keyboard so forgive me if this is long winded. So, the other part, staying friends with your EXs partners…

Its true, you got to pick people you actually like for more than the physical attraction but you should probably be doing that anyway. The pain of losing someone or even of betrayal isn’t easy to forget and sometimes takes a long time to fade to the point that communication is possible. Learning to forgive, to understand that other people make mistakes, that they make choices that seem baffling, or just simply that you don’t want them to make, doesn’t make them bad people. Hopefully you shared deeply of yourselves with each other and that is a treasure not to be thrown away lightly. It’s a struggle to make it work as friends, sometimes it will not work, sometimes it just won’t work right now, this week, this month, or even this year. Don’t give up. Learn to forgive, learn to set boundaries, keep the parts that drew you together and understand and make room for the things that pushed or pulled you apart.

If you are very very lucky, you just might end up with a very special friend…




xxblushesxx -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 10:08:07 AM)

This is beautiful, and Bossy has always seemed like a wonderful person...just lovely.
The only thing I would caution you about is idealizing the past so much, that anything you have in the future cannot possibly live up to it.
Look behind you with a bit of sorrow and longing, (at times) but then, look ahead with determination and hope.




Kana -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 10:10:14 AM)

I second SM's comments. The Bossy one is pretty freaking awesome, one helluva lady.




GreedyTop -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 11:08:38 AM)

what Blushy said.

other than that, the OP was TL:DR. Not that I needed it to know what absolute awesomesauce BSB is!!!




SimplyMichael -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 11:17:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

This is beautiful, and Bossy has always seemed like a wonderful person...just lovely.



She is

quote:

The only thing I would caution you about is idealizing the past so much, that anything you have in the future cannot possibly live up to it.


We don't

quote:

Look behind you with a bit of sorrow and longing, (at times) but then, look ahead with determination and hope.


We are




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 8:56:26 PM)

Wow. Michael I am completely blown away. How is it that you so easily and eloquently describe our ever evolving friendship, and all I can think of to say is, "I love your guts?"

Thank you so much. I really don't think I'd be the person I am today without having known you.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (12/18/2011 9:04:31 PM)

That was wonderful, Michael.




Awareness -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (1/28/2012 11:50:22 PM)

Describing your mistakes and failings with such naked honesty requires courage and strength.  I salute you.

“Happiness is a choice that requires effort at times.” ― Aeschylus




heartfeltsub -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (1/31/2012 6:54:09 AM)

Wow, you both continue to astound and humble me. Thank you so much for sharing this.




SimplyMichael -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (1/31/2012 7:53:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Describing your mistakes and failings with such naked honesty requires courage and strength.  I salute you.

“Happiness is a choice that requires effort at times.” ― Aeschylus



As a poster I have genuine respect for, your words mean a lot, thank you.




limpshorty -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (8/15/2012 8:26:18 AM)

To both of you,

Reading your shared thoughts makes my guts ache, and makes me cry.

You see, my long ago Mistress just left. She gave me to a friend of hers, told me she couldn't stay in touch, and said goodbye.

You both have held on to the person, after the mistakes. The guts ache is that I so much want that, as much as the kneeling and fawning. I get to have some hope, thanks to your shared story, thank you.

It's been a long time, and going through the new name among the hundreds is as hard as it was twenty years ago. But, I knew there was something to wait for.

limpshorty




GreedyTop -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (8/15/2012 8:52:05 AM)

hey limshorty :) It's wonderful that you have gained something good from this, and I don't think theMods would frown on resurrecting a thread over 3 months old, in this case (hey, positive is positive!!), but please DO keep in mind that dredging up threads where the last post is 3 or more months old IS frowned upon in Sorry to hear of your recent loss, and I hope you find someone when you are ready :)




painslutboy -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (8/15/2012 9:18:12 AM)

Y'know, GreedyTop, i've heard that too, and frequently mods of boards will close/lock a zombie thread.

But in all honesty, why the hell NOT keep a conversation going across time? This is the internet, FCS - shit lives forever here. Plus, FWIW, Western Civilization is based on what's known as The Great Conversation, isn't it?

Ah, but I suppose O/our two posts enact the very danger lying within: zombie threads are far more prone to hijacking...

$.02
psb




GreedyTop -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (8/15/2012 9:55:38 AM)

Like I said.. I doubt the Mods will frown upon the forum. In other forums here, they ask that you start a new thread and link to the old for context, if needed.

I have mixed feelings about it, myself.


SOmetimes, a new thread is a topic that has been rehashed SO MANY TIMES that the regular denizens have little to no patience with it (I am one of those). But I also realize that an absolute newbie to CC may not know how to use the search function (If they are even aware that it exsists).

it's a coin toss. For me, personally (FAIR WARNING, FOLKS!), it depends on my mood at the time I see a new thread started on an ancient subject...LOL

(edited to remove a word that had no place in the sentence... and I have no idea how it appeared there...)




limpshorty -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (8/15/2012 10:34:13 AM)

Thank you GreedyTop, I am dealing with it all. The old relationships are very old. (a whole lot more than three months since the last "post") The feelings remain current. And I had gratefully forgotten the months spent in cyber being dismissed, ignored, and insulted. Now I am remembering how it ended up.

So, thanks for the encouragement.

Ok, so, I suppose I should start a new thread to apologize for resurrecting a zombie thread?

Nah. And all I want to do is thank people for actually living in this world I left behind.

limpshorty




SimplyMichael -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (4/14/2014 7:59:43 PM)

While we don't talk much anymore, we have both moved in different directions, she is still one hell of a woman and it has taken a long time to find someone worthy of moving forward with and her friendship, support, even her pushing me away and all the rest were things that helped me find a better path for myself.

This place was once a lovely vibrant community, its changed, we have changed, but it is still a lovely memory.

Oh, and MODS, being the sadist I am you have to kill this thread because its old...although its a stupid rule and you should make an exception but I win either way!




Rasciallymisty -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (4/15/2014 5:36:01 AM)

Michael they no longer close threads that are over three months old and the person who started the thread can always re open it at anytime they wish.  A few things have changed here. [:)]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: BossyShoeBitch (4/26/2014 6:39:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

This is beautiful, and Bossy has always seemed like a wonderful person...just lovely.
The only thing I would caution you about is idealizing the past so much, that anything you have in the future cannot possibly live up to it.
Look behind you with a bit of sorrow and longing, (at times) but then, look ahead with determination and hope.



Yepper....did that, bought the T shirt.

(Slicing her tires can be a good feel good event as well).




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