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DarkSteven -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:14:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Which by extension is high praise of the Bush Doctrine. The Bush Doctrine, as I understand it, is the idea that we will invade anyone if we consider them to pose a threat to the US, preemptively and not wait for a strike. Since the fiasco in Iraq, nobody will likely invoke it again. I believe what you mean by "the Bush Doctrine" is the neo-con idea that is we invade one Arab state and establish a democratic beachhead there, the rest will topple like dominoes. My apologies if I've misinterpreted.

slvemike4u -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:18:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity *Obama is a right wing asshole now? [:D]* That is your interpatation of my post.....I doubt anyone else would agree with that take. Of course you being a chief example of what I was referring to would tend to influence your outlook [:)] by the way.....your link is for shit....no surprise of course ,considering the source and all that [:D]

Sanity -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:22:26 AM)
Here you go... enjoy! [:)] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16191394

mnottertail -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:28:06 AM)
Note that absolutely nothing sanity has said Obama said or intimated was said or intimated in that speech by Obama. enjoy[:D]

Lucylastic -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:29:30 AM)
when it does, I will put up flags

Sanity -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:35:48 AM)
As I wrote earlier, read the speech Because obviously you havent That, or you are in denial... [:)] quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Note that absolutely nothing sanity has said Obama said or intimated was said or intimated in that speech by Obama. enjoy[:D]

mnottertail -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:48:00 AM)
There is only one of us who actually has read that speech and it ain't you. But, point out for all assembled here where in the text the words achievement, Bush, republican, doctrine, and liberate are, because there must be an intellectual starchblocker common to all leftists that prevents them from seeing words and intimations that are not existant, which does not seem to be present in rightists.

Sanity -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:53:22 AM)
Touche Steven. youve got a point To bad there arent many others here on your side who can argue using facts reason and logic quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Which by extension is high praise of the Bush Doctrine. The Bush Doctrine, as I understand it, is the idea that we will invade anyone if we consider them to pose a threat to the US, preemptively and not wait for a strike. Since the fiasco in Iraq, nobody will likely invoke it again. I believe what you mean by "the Bush Doctrine" is the neo-con idea that is we invade one Arab state and establish a democratic beachhead there, the rest will topple like dominoes. My apologies if I've misinterpreted.

Lucylastic -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 11:56:13 AM)
when you come up with some fact and logic, we might be able to understand your points and respond in kind, altho I wouldnt hold your breath. Even Steven who has the patience of a saint, thought he might have misunderstood what you were rabbitting on about.

EmilyRocks -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 12:39:39 PM)
If I were a Yankistani, I would vote for Obama solely on the basis of the idiocy of your statements.

tweakabelle -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:18:30 PM)
Reading Sanity's offerings on this thread reminded me of a drowning person desperately flinging an arm out in any and every direction, in the forlorn hope of finding something solid to cling to, as they flounder in waters far too deep for them to fathom. A less self-interested view is that 8 years of war, over 4500 US fatalities, at least 100,000 Iraqi civilian casualties, US $750-800 billion, ruin of the Iraqi infrastructure and oil industry and the enormous damage to US's reputation and prestige has delivered a fragile fractured Iraq, in a state of suspended civil war, governed by a corrupt coalition whose natural ideological buddies are the Iranians, leaving a gaggle of autocratic US allies on the other side of the Gulf petrified with fear. Some would say it has gifted Iraq to Teheran. Thank you cards for this quasi-total disaster should be addressed to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the deranged neo cons and US looney Right who proposed and promoted this madcap adventure in the first place. Sanity's mates bear almost total responsibility for one of history's great strategic catastrophes.

Sanity -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:32:30 PM)
Thats all right, a lot of idiots here vote for whoever seems taller to them so your logic almost seems sane by comparison quote: ORIGINAL: EmilyRocks If I were a Yankistani, I would vote for Obama solely on the basis of the idiocy of your statements.

mnottertail -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:34:20 PM)
I thought that bush was of an average height, so not all idiots vote based on height.

Sanity -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:36:24 PM)
Reading how all the desperate leftists here are anxious to make ME the topic of the discussion reminds me of how leftists are incapable of using reason and logic to argue a point and are forced instead, due to a lack of intellect on their part to rely on strawman arguments and these bizarre, nonsensical personal attacks or other derails to try to obfuscate the real discussion quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Reading Sanity's offerings on this thread reminded me of a drowning person desperately flinging an arm out in any and every direction, in the forlorn hope of finding something solid to cling to, as they flounder in waters far too deep for them to fathom. A less self-interested view is that 8 years of war, over 4500 US fatalities, at least 100,000 Iraqi civilian casualties, US $750-800 billion, ruin of the Iraqi infrastructure and oil industry and the enormous damage to US's reputation and prestige has delivered a fragile fractured Iraq, in a state of suspended civil war, governed by a corrupt coalition whose natural ideological buddies are the Iranians, leaving a gaggle of autocratic US allies on the other side of the Gulf petrified with fear. Some would say it has gifted Iraq to Teheran. Thank you cards for this quasi-total disaster should be addressed to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the deranged neo cons and US looney Right who proposed and promoted this madcap adventure in the first place. Sanity's mates bear almost total responsibility for one of history's great strategic catastrophes.

Sanity -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:37:34 PM)
Go back and read for comprehension, I didnt write "all" [;)] quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I thought that bush was of an average height, so not all idiots vote based on height.

RacerJim -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:41:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow Top comment under the video: "Just as the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan, bankrupt and hated, the US pulls out of Iraq leaving behind mass graves, raped women, and millions of destroyed lives. The Soviet Union collapsed two years after. I wonder how long America will last?" If Obama gets re-elected America, as the "Shining Beacon of Freedom" it has been for 230+ years, won't last through his second term.

mnottertail -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:45:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Reading how all the desperate leftists here are anxious to make ME the topic of the discussion reminds me of how leftists are incapable of using reason and logic to argue a point and are forced instead, do to a lack of intellect on their part to rely on strawman arguments and these bizarre, nonsensical personal attacks or other derails to try to obfuscate the real discussion Well the real discussion is a congratulations to our troops, not anything you are hysterically hyperbolically ranting about. Due to a general lack of intellect and reason and logic amongst the rightists, I will point out that people who use the word do where due is clearly indicated are not generally thought of as beacons of intellect, fact, logic or reason, at best they are thought of as fuliginious or crepuscular in those particular skillsets.

slvemike4u -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:52:46 PM)
Might as well throw in spelling congratulations with a d in place of a t.....but this is the guy who questions the intelect of others [:D]

mnottertail -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:53:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Go back and read for comprehension, I didnt write "all" [;)] quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I thought that bush was of an average height, so not all idiots vote based on height. As a man of independent and fairly intelligent thought I use alot of fuckin words everyday that you didnt write, and do it without your permission, when I hold an opinion. Hey, you write and say words that Obama didnt write or say or intend. Nowhere did I say or intimate you used the word 'all', your reading comprehension once again and still is in #EPIC #FAIL award blue ribbon territory. Quit trying to make these threads about you and your deplorable cogitations and people will not focus so much on your shortcomings.

tweakabelle -> RE: Iraq war over,congradulations to our troops and thanks to President Obama for keeping a promise. (12/19/2011 1:55:39 PM)
It takes a colossal ego, allied with intelligence and comprehension skills in inverse proportions to get this: quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Reading how all the desperate leftists here are anxious to make ME the topic of the discussion reminds me of how leftists are incapable of using reason and logic to argue a point and are forced instead, due to a lack of intellect on their part to rely on strawman arguments and these bizarre, nonsensical personal attacks or other derails to try to obfuscate the real discussion out of this: quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Reading Sanity's offerings on this thread reminded me of a drowning person desperately flinging an arm out in any and every direction, in the forlorn hope of finding something solid to cling to, as they flounder in waters far too deep for them to fathom. A less self-interested view is that 8 years of war, over 4500 US fatalities, at least 100,000 Iraqi civilian casualties, US $750-800 billion, ruin of the Iraqi infrastructure and oil industry and the enormous damage to US's reputation and prestige has delivered a fragile fractured Iraq, in a state of suspended civil war, governed by a corrupt coalition whose natural ideological buddies are the Iranians, leaving a gaggle of autocratic US allies on the other side of the Gulf petrified with fear. Some would say it has gifted Iraq to Teheran. *Thank you cards for this quasi-total disaster should be addressed to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the deranged neo cons and US looney* Right who proposed and promoted this madcap adventure in the first place. Sanity's mates bear almost total responsibility for one of history's great strategic catastrophes. It's not about you Sanity. Stop obfuscating and face up to the fact that it was your mates on the far Right** who proposed designed and executed the Iraq fiasco virtually single-handedly. Accept the facts and some responsibility instead of being a cheer leader for a catastrophe.

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