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Gay Rights And American Foreign Policy - 12/23/2011 7:20:26 PM   
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The announcement that the US government will henceforth push the achievement of “gay rights” internationally, as a key element of its foreign policy, gives new meaning to the phrase “blowback” – and cut out the snickering! Because the self-righteousness and narcissism of American policymakers, in this instance, will have very real consequences for gay people throughout the world, and it isn’t going to be pretty...

If anything underscores the bedrock principle of what I call “libertarian realism” – the concept that the real roots of American foreign policy are determined by the vagaries of domestic politics – it is this proclamation, enunciated in one of Hillary Clinton’s more bombastic and self-regarding tirades, delivered in front of the UN Human Rights Council...

...for thousands of words she catalogues the abuses heaped on gay people the world over, and denounces these as violations of the most basic human rights – but what is the US government prepared to do about it? Withhold “foreign aid” from countries that hurl gays off cliffs, as in Saudi Arabia? Certainly not: the new “policy,” as described in a memorandum from the White House to all agencies, specifies no such action – indeed, it specifies no particular action, just a general statement of “principle.”


The treatment of gays in the Muslim world is horrific - but is this the time for the United States to take on this issue and is there any point to making an announcement and taking a "stance" if we're not going to back it up?


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Homosexual behavior has existed as long as history itself, and it knows no geographical boundaries: on the other hand, gay identity is indeed confined not only geographically but in time. In the Muslim world, for example, homosexual relations between men are widespread – on account of the unapproachable status of women – and tacitly sanctioned, as long as the relationships are discreet, i.e. “closeted,” in Western parlance. This means men who identify as fully heterosexual regularly engage in sexual relations with other men – to a far greater degree than is true in Western countries. The only difference is that there is no desire – and no need – on their part to “come out,” a Western ritual of political correctness that would impose gay identity on those who reject such a label for cultural-religious reasons...

Today, a romp in the hay is a political act, and the non-Western reaction to this evolution is bad news for the “gay” underground in those countries. It means demagogues arising to wipe out this “Western menace,” while Western politicians capitalize on it here in the US by getting up on their high horses. This is the irony inherent in the only solid action item in the administration’s pro-gay memo: instructing US embassies abroad to facilitate applications for asylum in the US. First stir up the hornets nest – and then rush to the aid of those stung. That just about sums up the course of US “human rights” diplomacy in modern era.  


If we are going to back it up - should we be using force to establish gay rights in the Middle East? Will anything less suffice?

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RE: Gay Rights And American Foreign Policy - 12/23/2011 7:43:13 PM   
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I will admit, using violence towards homosexuals as a pretext for giving out less foreign aid is a great way to save money.

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RE: Gay Rights And American Foreign Policy - 12/23/2011 8:57:13 PM   
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No we shouldn't be using force,it is not our place to do so.On the other hand we are perfectly within our rights,morally and otherwise ,to declare we will withhold non humanitarian aid to regimes and governments that offend us in some way or the other.
Please note I said nonhumanitarian aid.....further note that the agenda of pushing for equality for gays and lesbians sits perfectly well with me...but why stop there?
Certainly some of the regimes we prop up have abysmal records in the area of equality for woman in general....why not give a forceful shove in that direction too.

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