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VirginPotty -> Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 7:18:16 AM)

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations." She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day. We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building.
We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day. Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind.
We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day.
Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana . In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us.
When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power.
We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then. We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water.
We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then. Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service.
We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint. But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
 Remember: Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 7:26:39 AM)

~cackle~




ShaharThorne -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 7:43:14 AM)

Get the bullwhip out...I remember walking to school and I am only 44!




mnottertail -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 7:45:37 AM)

You have a pretty advanced highschool certificate by now, hah? 

either that or 18 to 44 was some pretty nebulous times.

I remember walking to school and it was uphill both ways, and we were so poor and I got my first pair of shoes, one size 9 and one size 11 and both for the same foot, oh, was I happy....




ShaharThorne -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 7:52:08 AM)

It was back when I was 8 years old.  We moved around a lot when I was a kid until we got the farm.  Afterwards, it was the bus.  My baby brother had to do the bus during his entire school career.

Bo uses his own sacks these days.  I made him a few because the ones that the stores sells (not the canvas ones, the cheaper ones) break down fast.






ResidentSadist -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 8:38:02 AM)

Come on, be honest . . . back in our day, we recycled by carving dinosaur bones into tools.




mnottertail -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 8:39:23 AM)

But we did not manage that precious resource, and now they are carving them out of plastic and touchscreens.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:26:45 AM)

I was so poor that if I didn't wake up with a hard-on Christmas morning, I wouldn't have anything to play with.


TOP that fuckers. [8D]




Kana -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:31:08 AM)

True story
I used to walk 8 miles each way to work.
Meanwhile, she grew up in the backhills in a cabin with no electricity, running water or heat.
We've both eaten roadkill to survive.
Yeah, if we had kids, I'd feel sorry for those fuckers.
They'd never hear the end of it...




Clickofheels -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:40:55 AM)

"Yeah, if we had kids, I'd feel sorry for those fuckers."

Good lord.....




Hillwilliam -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:42:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Clickofheels

"Yeah, if we had kids, I'd feel sorry for those fuckers."

Good lord.....

I think he is referring to the "War Stories" the kids would be subjected to.

Back when I was your age we didn't have any damn (fill in the blank).




tj444 -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:43:04 AM)

If that was what the clerk said, how it was said was rude and poor customer relations.. If someone said that to me, I would not shop there again..

btw, plastic bags can be recycled (used to make new products), at least they do that in some places.. I used to put them in the recycle bin all the time.. (there was even a recycle bin for green waste) but that was in BC, Canada.. down here in the US, it depends on the state and city, some are not into recycling to any great degree at all...




LaTigresse -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:55:04 AM)

Most of my childhood we didn't have a tv. When we did, it wasn't colour. When we did, we never had cable. We had, on a clear day, 2, 7, 9 and 12.

For most of my childhood there was only one family vehicle and that was either an old Rambler station wagon or a truck. Both of which doubled as my dad's work truck and a family transport. For a family of 8. Riding to grandma's house in the back of a pickup, even with a borrowed old topper, for Christmas, was a cold and somewhat dangerous affair (exhaust fumes).

For several years of my childhood, and even part of my younger adulthood, we didn't have a phone. (I miss those days!)

For several years of my childhood we didn't have hot running water. Imagine how green we where.

Every god damned summer of my childhood was spent, either gardening, or canning and freezing the contents of said garden.

We always walked to school. Even when I was in junior high and had to walk across town. In the middle of winter, with wet hair I had just washed in cold water. (we never had a hair dryer either)

The house I grew up in didn't have heat upstairs, for most of my time there. You know it's cold when you crawl out of bed and you can see your breath. You do not dally in getting downstairs!

The house I live in now (since 2001) is the first house I've ever had central air in. (what an awesome luxury!)

I was going to write about living in a house (actually two now that I think about it) for 10 years that I heated with an antique wood stove but, alas, not very green.

In my house we didn't have a computer until 15ish years ago. We didn't have internet until 1998. Combined, our current household has only ever owned 6 computers.

Ah yes, the good old days!





outhere69 -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 10:55:52 AM)

Man, that story's all over the net.

Bottles were returned for deposits, most streetcars were gone (depends on the city; the rural trolley near my mom's was long gone), her mom's house had 3 or 4 outlets per room, you could only walk or ride if you lived close enough (hell, I walked to school when we lived in CA), etc.  It's kind of a blend of the 4 yorkshiremen and the mythical Mayberry RFD.

The cars ran on leaded gas and had poor mileage, they used DDT to suppress mosquitoes, there were smogs that killed people, and rivers caught fire. 




Duskypearls -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 11:07:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I was so poor that if I didn't wake up with a hard-on Christmas morning, I wouldn't have anything to play with.


TOP that fuckers. [8D]


Now that, takes the cake. Poor you!




littlewonder -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 12:42:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Clickofheels

"Yeah, if we had kids, I'd feel sorry for those fuckers."

Good lord.....


That's ok...Master gets a kick out of me telling my daughter about it alllll the time when she complains about her life hehehe






outhere69 -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 4:57:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I was so poor that if I didn't wake up with a hard-on Christmas morning, I wouldn't have anything to play with.

TOP that fuckers. [8D]

Dayum, that was even better than "ate a lump o' poison and had t'pay millowner t'work!"




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 5:17:30 PM)

I really didn't realize we were kinda poor til mom passed away and I found all kinds of old banking records.  She never threw an away I don't think.

We would drive through the mountains to see waterfalls, spend a month camping every summer, stay up in the mountains with grandmother and get to sleep on a pallet on the floor.  Fuck, I thought we were rich.

It was all so much fun. Who knew it was all cheap or free.  Good times.

Well, except the fact that I had to walk to school, uphill in the snow, both ways.  And, if I got to watch tv and control what was on, I hada get up an actually change the channel.  Fuckin kids today are rotten brats.

;o)




ShaharThorne -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 5:28:26 PM)

We take our plastic bags to a local food bank, we towel-dry our hair (we have short hair), I teased Mom that we needed a wood burning stove last night (we got central), I crochet the afghans thats on our beds and get our meats on clearance (we have a small freezer).

I remember selling firewood that we cut from our land after we got our wood set to the side (I even split it).

Never had an allowance.  If I wanted anything extra, I either worked for it or saved up my lunch money.

I use Ebay to get my yarns now.  Walmart does not carry what I work with.

When I cut my finger really bad when I was 14, Dad put 4 stitches in it.  He was an ER nurse and saved the expense of an ER visit.

I have scars on my legs where a bush hog shot out a freon can and cut my legs.  I also got a scoop in my knee where I wrecked my bike while I was stationed in Korea.

I am now a wuss when it comes to pain.  Vicodin is my friend, but I wait until the pain is extreme.

Tonight, I did mashed potatoes.  Did not want to cook an entire meal.  Did not have any frozen dinners (meat, tater tots and frozen vegetables in the freezer).  Cooking is a lost art.

We got the cheapest cable package.  I miss Animal Planet.

Used to drink diet soda all the time and recycle the cans.  Now just a 20 oz bottle a week when we go get essentials at the store (milk, bread, cheese).




Winterapple -> RE: Whose fault is it???? (1/11/2012 6:06:46 PM)

FR
I use to walk to school sometimes and home from
school often but not out of necessity.
I just liked walking and it was a bit of a
stretch.
There is a school in my neighborhood and it
surprises me that the neighbor kids always
take the bus. It's like a less than five
minute ride. If they walked they'd be
halfway home before the buses left campus.
If that grocery story was true which I seriously
doubt, the checker would be behaving very
rudely. I've been a checkout girl and
lecturing or copping an attitude with a
customer would likely get you fired.
Plastic bags are recycable. One thing you
can do with them is make totes and purses
with them by weaving them together.
When I read rivers caught on fire for some
reason I heard Kings of Leon shouting
"This sex is on fire!"
But sure previous generations did damage
to the environment but it was largely or
a lot if it from big business rather than
individuals. Though individuals did wasteful
stuff to. And it is a bit mind boggling to
think of all the stuff we have plugged in
every room everyday today.




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