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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:32:09 PM

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Well, my suspicions were confirmed (yes, I did understand the OP, Alpha!)...though I did not suspect the girls at first. I wasn't attacked--actually, Hannah was always very kind to me--and I really wasn't aware that Tazzy and LP were targeted elsewhere, I'm sorry about that, and I wish I could have defended you somehow. I avoided most of the trainwrecks, so I'm sure I only know a little of what went on.

I have always taken people at face value, inasmuch as our faces are virtual. That's not going to change. I've met dozens of people from this site over the years, and most of them have been wonderful and authentic. We've been led down a thorny path here, and I hope that those who have been hurt can move past it.

I am not giving Bob a pass on this. He is sick, and he needs help, but all that contentiousness, all that vitriol, is at his core.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:34:19 PM

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No shit. Those women are the ones who are truly victims. There are videos on YouTube, also, at least one of which is a love letter from Heather" to " Hannah". Shows "Hannah" peeing on the toilet and everything. I feel sorry for the poor young woman whose image is being used.
I have no doubt Bob is sick but there is also an evil undercurrent running through all this. I think what stands out in my mind is when that poor young woman was murdered in Canada, and that event, which actually happened, figured prominently because one of the girls was supposedly friends with her. That is truly, truly repulsive, exploiting a tragic event like that.
I knew anenoz was a Bob sock, but I was well and truly fooled on the rest of them.

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Before you leave, please consider taking down all the pictures of the innocent, young woman who are now plastered on the various kink websites you frequent. The ramifications of your behavior can't be calculated at this point, but you can, at least, try to mitigate any damage by doing the right thing.

That's about all I can say without jeopardizing my own concerted effort to put more positive energy into the universe.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:38:00 PM

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I wouldn't worry overly about that. Those images were sourced from far more heavily-trafficked sites than any kink site. Those pictures of "Hannah" were in fact part of a complete set provided by some poor girl's ex-boyfriend to at least one site and some of the pictures are a lot more explicit than any you've seen here.

Frankly, I think her ex has done far more damage to her than Bob ever could.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:40:25 PM

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Thank you, Awareness.

I was wondering what you would say. Thought provoking.

So is Tanijaanas' comment

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Interesting how this is going on here, but there is zero mention of it anywhere in any of their profiles on FL..

For those who have not seen it, here is the thread tiled "The voices in my head" by Arpig/Bob.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2660317/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:44:28 PM

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Thank you, VAA for all your work. It's such a difficult situation.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:44:30 PM

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Maybe someone should clue Fet into what is happening here.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:44:44 PM

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Can I confess something embarrassing here? The fake accounts (I'm sorry but it's hard for me to refer to the fake accounts as names anymore) that were posing as angry lesbians.....not only could I relate to them, but I felt like at least I wasn't the only person on the site coming from a lesbian background. (although mine was in my actual "past life") Now, I feel strangely more alone than ever.
And I really didn't consider that those accounts were fake because given my past experience, leatherdykes were the experts when it came to stirring up shit and pissing people off-- hell, most of our clubs, AA meetings and social groups didn't last for more than a couple of years before they self-destructed. I thought to myself, only a real leatherdyke could make this much drama.

I'm just so sad that real people were hurt and reputations and friendships harmed by all that happened.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:49:43 PM

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First of all I want to clear up a few misconceptions. It wasn't the Mods or LadyPact who got to the bottom of anything, if there is anybody to thank it is Awareness and LaTigresse. It was her reply on his sockpuppet thread that got me wondering, so I wrote VAA asking if she could help me to set my mind at rest as to if HaytchHouse was me. She confirmed that there was some evidence that they could be, and asked if I wanted her to dig deeper, I said OK and made an appointment with my shrink.

He administered some long involved interview process and concluded that I was indeed experiencing dissociative fugue states. From there I did some searching and digging, and came up with some evidence that confirmed to me that they were in fact me, the primary one being that the house where I had visited them did in fact not exist, I had a trusted friend go to the address to see who lived there. Well not only did the 4 girls not live there, but the address didn't even exist. I changed my log-in procedure on my computers. I then wrote VAA and told her what I had found, I changed it from a fingerprint scan to an old-fashioned password, and then admitted myself to the hospital for observation and assesment. Over the 3 days I was in the hospital none of the alternate personas logged in or posted anywhere, which was the final bit of proof we needed. VAA did some further digging and came up with several other connections and links, not only to the 4 girls, but to a number of other accounts as well, as she stated in her first post on here. As to those other accounts, I cannot say if they are me, I have only the word of VAA, and I have no reason to question it. I have only interacted with some of those personas and only through here or via email, so I have no way of knowing for certain. Anyway, VAA and I spoke on the phone and together we decided that the best course of action would be to simply close all the relevant accounts, but that we would hold off for a bit until I could sort out with my shrink what possible ramifications this might have on my real day-to-day life, and then to do so in a manner that would cause the least trouble and strife on these boards.

Well one part of that process was demonstrating to these alter egos that they were in fact just that. Well one result of that is this thread, which was my alternate Hannah's idea, not mine. I had decided not to make any announcement. You see, that is the problem I am having, I am not conciously able to control what these personalities do when I am in a fugue state. I have no memory of the times when they do things. The only reason I was even aware of this thread was because I happened to check my hotmail and saw there were some messages from some people from Collarme. So I logged on and read the messages, which didn't make a whole lot of sense till I came to this side and saw this thread.

At this point I do not know if I am officially suffering from DID, or if it is simply me functioning in an altered state of conciousness. I've decided that I don't really care. These four personas I have actually interacted with, I have seen them and spoken to them face to face. They are hallucinations. I drugged my last set of hallucinations out of existence and I miss them. I happen to like these new hallucinations, so I am not going to drug them out of existence. Together, my hallucinations and I are going to figure out a way for us all to exist, I am going to try psychotherapy to try get to the bottom of what is going on in my head.

To all those I have insulted in my alternate personas, I am deeply sorry, to those who feel deceived, I am deeply sorry, for whatever problems I have caused to anybody as a result of these personas I am deeply sorry. I am not asking for forgiveness, I am not asking for compassion, or even for understanding. I'm not asking for anything.

I don't know if I will be back to post or not, I am going to be spending my days homeschooling my eldest son, and most of my free time I am going to be spending alone...well with the girls, but that is effectively alone, but it doesn't seem like it to me.

To those who have expressed sympathy or understanding....I thank you. To those who are hurt...I'm sorry. To those who are feeling vindicated...kudos, you were right. To those who are angry and feeling vindictive...i'm sorryl, there's nothing I can say or do, I hope you get over it soon.

I would be more worried but right now I have far bigger fish to fry. I have to try clean up the mess that has been made of my life in real time. There are several unpaid cell phone bills and a credit card that has to be paid as well. Isn't that a joke, I can't get a credit card, but the banks gave one to Heather.

As to any future personas showing up, well if you have any doubts that some nick may be me, just write me on the other side and I will contact VAA immediately and together we will see if there is any connection.

That's about it. If any of you would like to continue to correspond with the girls, write me on the other side and I will pass on their emails.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 10:51:03 PM

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Maybe someone should clue Fet into what is happening here.

I already did that some time ago.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:00:38 PM

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Thank you, Awareness.

I was wondering what you would say. Thought provoking.

So is Tanijaanas' comment

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Interesting how this is going on here, but there is zero mention of it anywhere in any of their profiles on FL..

For those who have not seen it, here is the thread tiled "The voices in my head" by Arpig/Bob.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2660317/mpage_1/tm.htm

What an interesting thread.

One sentence sticks with me. "It's hard to live with a hotel in your head"

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:01:36 PM

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I don't know if I will be back to post or not, I am going to be spending my days homeschooling my eldest son, and most of my free time I am going to be spending alone...well with the girls, but that is effectively alone, but it doesn't seem like it to me.

I really have to question the wisdom of this.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:03:10 PM

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I question the wisdom of pretty much everything I do these days. If you have particular concerns, write me on the other side with them and I'll take them under advisement.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:03:24 PM

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Pretty much, this is going to be My last post here. In good conscious, I can't continue. I need time to lick My wounds. I need time.

It is not that I don't appreciate the messages that I have received. I do. I will gladly respond to those who contact Me by mail

But, I am done with this. I will no longer stand aside and allow this to continue. If you want to call into question My personhood, you feel free to do that.

Are you happy????? For Myself and every other person that you sacrificed????? Well, fuck you!!!! Take your fucking sick self off from decent people who do not deserve your shit.\\

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:07:20 PM

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This is the thread about my Nephew that Arpig posted in, discussing disassociation. Starting at about 32.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3819204/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:10:21 PM

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I question the wisdom of pretty much everything I do these days. If you have particular concerns, write me on the other side with them and I'll take them under advisement.

In all honesty, I dont know what to believe of anything you say. This seems to me as something no therapist would recommend in your condition...

But, then again, you have lied so much, I dont even know if you have a son.

You have hurt many people, hurt many relationships, played your fucking games until many people dont trust anyone.

And you have the unmitigated gall to post that line of bullshit?

I am taking LP's path and leaving. Fuck you!

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:11:50 PM

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I am just glad the man can see his problems.

Good luck, Bob. I wish you health and happiness.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:11:58 PM

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The therapist didn't recommend it, I chose it against his recommendation.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:12:31 PM

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Fuck you. You may be sick, but you are also evil.

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I question the wisdom of pretty much everything I do these days. If you have particular concerns, write me on the other side with them and I'll take them under advisement.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:14:12 PM

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Quite possibly.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 11:16:26 PM

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You may be sick, but you are also evil.

Evil was the word I thought of when he told me I should have been aborted.

After that, I just stopped replying to him or the four alter egos. Made my life more peaceful and I could focus on better things.

I hope these forums become more peaceful now.

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