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In flesh 1st impressions - 10/24/2004 9:26:37 PM   
MaitresseEden


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I thought I would continue with the whole 1st impressions thread, as I thought back to the all the potential subs I have met in the past 2 months. Yes, I meet people rather quickly, and that is my prerogative, as the shortest distance between two points is a strait line in my book. Lady Angelika and I wrote about how to make a great Email first impression, but I thought I’d share a bit of my recent experiences with some recent real life first impressions.

Sub #1: ( handsome single man seeking LTR) We had talked on the phone several nights, at length and engaged in great conversation, and he was going to be in my town on business, so we planned to meet for lunch. His business meeting was delayed due to bad weather so we pushed it up to dinner. Being understanding that he didn’t know his way around town, I agreed to pick him up at his hotel and we went to eat at Bennigans. Talked extensively, appeared to hit it off, when I returned him to his hotel we went to his room to talk. The air was palpable with physical chemistry, but my need to get home and my desire not to play on first meeting meant I only stayed in his room talking about 30 mins. He walked me to my car, I kissed him goodbye and played with his mind heavily as he walked me out. He called me later that night telling me he couldn’t wait to get to spend some time with me. . Then silence for a week, when he called briefly to chat.. Still saying he would let me know his schedule during the week , and that he couldn’t wait to come spend time with me, and get to know me better. Again another week has passed.. no call, no email.. Despite the fact that I had chemistry with him, and he had great potential, his lack of respect or lack of interest spoke louder to me than his words. My impression was, all flash, and big talk, but heart just wasn’t into it. He was very submissive and responsive sexually, but I didn’t see much concern for me.

Sub #2 (handsome married man seeking to be domestic servant) A bit paranoid about any personal information via emails, which I could respect. Agreed to meet him for breakfast at the local IHOP’s. he was there promptly, albeit so nervous he was shaking. Before ordering my breakfast he said, he just felt to scared being there and he felt that he needed to leave, as if someone dining in my part of town made him unfaithful to his wife. so I said. Leave them.. He was gracious enough to leave money to cover my breakfast, he then emailed me begging to still be allowed to serve me as a houseboy. My impression of his was too paranoid and way too high maintenance for my liking, while he is definitely a submissive, he is too novice for my needs.

Sub #3 ( middle aged single guy) We met for lunch a month ago and a Vietnamese restaurant, with bugs in our food so it was not a pleasant dining experience and we left. He talked incessantly during the lunch and was a nervous wreck.. HE has consistently messaged me and kept in contact with me, there is NO chemistry aside from our professional commonality, but last night we went to dinner and a movie as friends. Which is all we will ever be. My Impression, I didn’t see a submissive bone in his body, but he is intellectually stimulating enough to be friends with and have a new movie buddy.

Sub #4 ( 25yr old experienced single slave) We met Friday night at a Club Fem party Within moments he was fixing my drinks, and attending to my needs. When he heard me say I love foot worship he promptly offered me a foot massage, and then spent hours attending my feet while I talked to sub #5. I told him to email me the next day, he did telling me his skill set, and his eagerness to serve. My impression.. Very sincere and service oriented sub who unfortunately lives too far away from me to see regularly, but may be fun to see casually.

Sub #5 ( 37 yr old Married Novice) This was his first club fem party., and first foray into anything public. He was full of questions and the boys and mistress’s all worked hard at enlightening him. He was a bit of a pretty boy and I had fun getting into his head and messing with him. He got visibly aroused with my talks of anal play, and I can spot a slut in a heartbeat. Ended up playing with him and taking him with a strap on. ( opps.. I broke my not on first meeting rule here… blame it on the bubble buns). Impression however was that of a “Do me”.. and I fell for it and he got done. Why do I say “do me”.. because that ass was way too easy to fuck, and he was way to eager for me to fuck it.

I think the common thread in all these is how they treat me. Did they just want to get done, or do they actually make an effort to get to know me and have a relationship with me. Thus far, none are candidates for anything serious, and some have removed themselves from consideration at all by their lack of respect. I think the key point I’m trying to make is.. ACTIONS speak louder than words. As I tell subs all the time. I don’t pursue men, it is their job to pursue me, but if you talk the talk you had better walk the walk. This is just the past two weeks, I could tell you countless tales in this regard.

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/24/2004 9:45:56 PM   
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quote:

Sub #2 (handsome married man seeking to be domestic servant) A bit paranoid about any personal information via emails, which I could respect. Agreed to meet him for breakfast at the local IHOP’s. he was there promptly, albeit so nervous he was shaking. Before ordering my breakfast he said, he just felt to scared being there and he felt that he needed to leave, as if someone dining in my part of town made him unfaithful to his wife. so I said. Leave them.. He was gracious enough to leave money to cover my breakfast, he then emailed me begging to still be allowed to serve me as a houseboy. My impression of his was too paranoid and way too high maintenance for my liking, while he is definitely a submissive, he is too novice for my needs.


I can identify with this one. When i was having my affair i was always very nervous meeting in public places, which we did frequently, but never close to home. One time we had lunch at a restaurant about 20miles from my home and ran into a golf friend of mine. I introduced my dom as an old friend that i had just run into, but have no idea if she believed me, and i prayed she didn't see us kissing in the mall. I'm guessing your potential sub was afraid of being seen, but would probably be just fine in a private setting serving as your houseboy.

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/24/2004 10:20:21 PM   
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I have really stopped looking .. why because of the experiences you describe... I am taking my own advice and living without expectations. If I met someone so be it if not.. well anyone want a slightly used but very well maintained toy chest contents included. Im working on me which is somuch more important than working someone elseover.. its me time.. and Im actually enjoying it.

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/24/2004 10:24:50 PM   
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quote:

This is just the past two weeks, I could tell you countless tales in this regard.


Wow. You've been a busy woman these past two weeks!

I have a no play on the first date rule as well. Often times, second or third. I most usually respect it. I follow my instinct.

When they don't call back and we have not been intimate, I tend to just brush it off and figure this is all part of the "dating" thing. Some people just can't handle these things. Do I fault them for their insecurities? Nah.

Of course it is refreshing when a guy or girl can wrap things up properly. I try my best to conclude things amicably but I have been known to flake out once or twice myself. I had my reasons at the time however lame they seem today.

They aren't great first impressions. But you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince or princess unfortunately.

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/24/2004 10:28:16 PM   
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I've found very few submissives who are interested in getting to know who I am as a person. For most of them, I could be a blow up doll that moved.. life support for a strap on, whip or whatever they are into. While I understand being excited about the possibility of meeting a Dominant Woman, if they can't control themselves enough to actually care who is holding the whip, I'm not willing to deal with them. The last submissive I got excited about actually didn't bring up anything in the BDSM realm for a few weeks. He was busy getting to know ME.

I've met the same men you have... over and over and over. I'm pretty much frustrated with the "submissive" men I meet locally (and I refuse relocations, so I'm stuck with the local pool.) I've decided to give myself a break from them. For my need to have contact with other kinky people, I'm going to attend the next local Club Fem munch. It will be my first time attending, so wish me luck.


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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/24/2004 10:33:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sylverdawn

well anyone want a slightly used but very well maintained toy chest contents included.


With the price of toys as they are, do not get rid of them. Put them in the back of the closet for the next five years. If you've still not used them then.. give them away. Every Domme I know who has gotten rid of their toys has regretted it deeply, especially if they had unique toys. That said, if you reaaaaly feel the need to be rid of them, I'd be happy to give any floggers a good and loving home *winks*

Chin up. Give yourself a break from it all (I am) and come back to the lifestyle when you're feeling a bit less overwhelmed by jerks


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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/25/2004 9:30:02 AM   
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Other than some subtle differences, the pitfalls that come with dating are just as present in our lifestyle as they are in the vanilla realm. I guess the most discouraging part is, at the very least, vanilla folk can always recite that old addage "Well, there's lots of other fish in the sea." Our little BDSM community insn't much of a sea, but more like a pond. The numbers are definitely not on our side.

The last much i was at, i seem to recall about 30 femsubs, 20 maledoms, 10 malesubs, 10 i have no clues, and 2 Dommes. Throw into the mix that we're never sure how many of them are seriously looking for a match vs the players, makes finding the right person very dismal.

All pessimism aside, imagine how euphoric it'll be when you do find a match.

sns

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/25/2004 2:06:07 PM   
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I agree with most of what has been expressed, the problem with a lot of men is that they let their testicles do the talking - I have been guilty of this in younger days.

Where newbies are concerned though, it is as much a case of educating them to the scene that they are trying to join.

For all the idiots that a Lady has to wade through, there are genuine submissives out here, the problem is that the good ones get snapped up.

There is a lack of BDSM training establishments for new people to the scene - I suspect that this could represent a niche market for any Lady or Ladies who happened upon it.

It is not just a matter of teaching the hows and how nots, etc. they should also be taught how to write, how to communicate.

Basically, this thread is about social and communication skills and their use within BDSM.

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/25/2004 5:05:50 PM   
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Actually, I was going for first impressions in the terms of behaviorisms. I have had many wine me dine me.. court me with flowers, etc.. many who were inherantly serious about serving. They just couldn't balance fitting into the vanilla realm. It seems to be one extreme or the other and very few are able to balance both worlds.

Ms. Eden

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RE: In flesh 1st impressions - 10/26/2004 10:41:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sylverdawn

I have really stopped looking .. why because of the experiences you describe... I am taking my own advice and living without expectations. If I met someone so be it if not.. well anyone want a slightly used but very well maintained toy chest contents included. Im working on me which is somuch more important than working someone elseover.. its me time.. and Im actually enjoying it.


I'll take you up on that toy chest! :) Between several moves and a longish spell of caring for a dying relative in my home, I have need of some new equipment! :) I just discovered that all My posture collars are gone, lost somewhere between Los Angeles, Albuquerque, San Francisco and Santa Fe! Not to mention My carriage whip, My wide wrist restraints (have to get a new set SWIFTLY!) and an entire bag of clips and clamps! annoying, that.

And yes, F2F meetings can be tricky. Fortunately, I live within walking distance of a luxury hotel here and can meet My prospectives there! If they cannot afford it, well, that's information for Me.

One submissive, some time back, met Me at a play party, got into My face and demanded "Pinch my tits!" When he wouldn't take "No!" for an answer, I shackled him, naked, to a steel chair in front of a fan and doused him with champagne! Topically applied chilled alcohol and rapidly moving air make for a VERY blue sub! (Yes, I did keep an eye on him so he wouldn't come to harm) He never tried that with Me again!

Lady Sonelle





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