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neti pots - 1/21/2012 8:58:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does using a neti pot cause pain and/or burning? Does it lessen the severity of and/or shorten the length of colds or sinus infections?


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RE: neti pots - 1/21/2012 11:06:57 PM   
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Does using a neti pot cause pain and/or burning? Does it lessen the severity of and/or shorten the length of colds or sinus infections?



If you have the temperature and the salt solution at the right strength it shouldn't burn (I have the hardest time with temperature - it takes some skill to get it to the right temp when you first start out.)  Do remember that you are also supposed to use distilled or boiled water in them (and read the couple stories in Louisiana if you don't understand why.  Rare, but it is part of why the warning is always there.)

There is a lot of debate about the effectiveness of them.  I used one for quite a while and it made a huge difference in my allergy problems, at the same time these days it aggravates A LOT more then it helps.  These days I have it in my take it and leave it file and sometimes I will drag it out but a lot of times when I do I regret it.  (Many people will report a "honeymoon" period of a week or two where symptoms will INCREASE after you start using it.)  These days I keep a can of simply saline in my medicine cabinet when I am feeling overly yucky - no need to buy distilled water or boil some and the flow is a lot gentler and doesn't irritate as much.

It is definitely not going to lessen the length of a cold (although it may help manage symptoms.)  I have heard information on both sides of the spectrum when it comes to sinus infections - from its a good way to help treat it, to that you shouldn't use it at all if you have a sinus infection.

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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 6:35:07 AM   
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Does using a neti pot cause pain and/or burning? Does it lessen the severity of and/or
shorten the length of colds or sinus infections?


After the recent deaths reported here in Louisiana after using them, I think I'd much rather
suffer through a sinus infection. If you are insistent on using one, be very very VERY careful.
News Article on Deaths

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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 8:45:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a big time neti pot user and previously suffered from a lot of nasal congestion due to allergies/sinus related issue.

Use distilled water. Critical, otherwise you may introduce bacteria or other pathogens into your nasal passages.

If you believe you have a serious sinus infection, you need to see a doctor. I have also read that it should not be used if you suspect an ear infection (ear, nose and throat passages are all interconnected.) Like anything, one has to know one's body and know when there is something more serious going on that requires the intervention of a doctor.

I use the neti pot on a regular basis when I am otherwise healthy just to flush out allergens and other things out of my nasal passages. It helps control my allergies a lot. One needs to read, very carefully, the neti pot instructions, and follow all of the things they say to do (including holding certain poses afterwards for a while to help drain any remaining liquid from your passages).

Since using the neti pot regularly, I do not seem to get sinus infections as frequently as I used to. So I am a big proponent of their use - but I usually use it only when I am otherwise healthy.

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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 9:03:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you have allergies and sinus infections, then yes, they are useful.  If you experience burning, reduce the amount of salt in the mixture.  And only use distilled water - very important.

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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 9:10:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I caught the flu from our roommate. When it wasn't better  a week and a half later, I made an appointment with a doctor. The doctor said my sinuses were inflamed and it had spread to my ears. She prescribed an antibiotic and a steroid for the inflammation. I've been told in the past by an ENT specialist that my nasal passages are small and I have a polyp in one of my maxillary sinuses. After reading that polyps usually grow back after surgery, I decided removal would be a waste of time. I thought since my passages are so small, maybe using a neti pot to flush my nose out in addition to the antibiotic and steroid would help things along.


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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 10:07:06 AM   
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Does using a neti pot cause pain and/or burning? Does it lessen the severity of and/or shorten the length of colds or sinus infections?


Neti-ing has certainly caused discomfort, but not pain or burning. I don't know that using one has shortened the duration, but it has cleared my sinuses, making it easier to breathe.

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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 10:31:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you have small passages, they neti pot may not be as effective.  In addition, any fluid that makes it past the obstruction will take a longer time to get out.

I used a sinus rinse after surgery, and much later dragged it out when I thought my sinuses were going to get hammered from a cold.  Big mistake!  My family doc said I probably rinsed the virus into my sinuses, where they had a party.  So I'm in the take it or leave it camp.  It really is good for healing after surgery, though.

Anyone else have weird problems with a bunch of water falling out of your nose a lot later, when you tilted your head some magic way?  I lived in dread of kissing a guy and having that happen!

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RE: neti pots - 1/22/2012 10:50:47 AM   
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I caught the flu from our roommate. When it wasn't better  a week and a half later, I made an appointment with a doctor. The doctor said my sinuses were inflamed and it had spread to my ears. She prescribed an antibiotic and a steroid for the inflammation. I've been told in the past by an ENT specialist that my nasal passages are small and I have a polyp in one of my maxillary sinuses. After reading that polyps usually grow back after surgery, I decided removal would be a waste of time. I thought since my passages are so small, maybe using a neti pot to flush my nose out in addition to the antibiotic and steroid would help things along.



I would not recommend using the neti pot until your infection in both your sinuses and your ears have completely cleared up. Others may feel differently, but I really don't use it when I have a serious infection like that. I am quite certain it can make things worse.

But once you are well, you might try it just to keep your nasal passages free of irritants.

Again, this is just my opinion based on how I use my neti pot. Others may have had success with the neti pot when they've had serious infections.


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RE: neti pots - 1/23/2012 12:13:12 AM   
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http://www.alkalolcompany.com/index.php

This stuff's awesome. Very strong. I mix it 60/40 (more alkalol) with saline (1/4 tsp non-iodized salt to 8 oz distilled water) and use 10 sprays each side, twice a day, every day. Blow gently after spraying. NO sinus infections in the last 4 years. Clean the nozzle of your spray bottle with rubbing alcohol after each use. You can gargle with it too if your throat's irritated. Also relieves itching from bug bites/poison oak/skin allergies.

Costco has the best deal, around $5 a bottle.

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RE: neti pots - 1/23/2012 3:55:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am also a neti user and I finally got G.D. converted, as well as my daughter. I use it several times a week, especially if I've been around sick people, feel like I am coming down with something, or have been in a dirty dusty area.

If you cannot or will not, get distilled water, boil your tap water vigorously to kill any bacteria, before using it in your neti. That is the problem those in Louisiana had, no boiling to kill bacteria.

The saline solution will burn if your sinuses are inflamed. It's much like getting salt in a cut. Nothing terrible to me, just a few tears. For me, a previous long time sufferer of sinus infections, doing it when they are inflamed is vital. It has literally stopped a bad sinus episode in it's tracks. I've also not had a serious head cold in several years, even when those around me are hacking and sniffling.

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RE: neti pots - 1/23/2012 2:17:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: poise


quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Does using a neti pot cause pain and/or burning? Does it lessen the severity of and/or
shorten the length of colds or sinus infections?


After the recent deaths reported here in Louisiana after using them, I think I'd much rather
suffer through a sinus infection. If you are insistent on using one, be very very VERY careful.
News Article on Deaths


Those amoeba scare the crap out of me for some reason even though I don't swim in fresh water lakes. Probably from science teacher way back when talking about how deadly they tend to be. Although now I see they are hunting me down through the tap >.> <.<

After I had sinus surgery, I was instructed to use one for a while. The one I got was a squeeze bottle with a gently curved nozzle that formed a seal on the nose. I just used mildly warm water and the packets of salt that came with it so it was dosed to not burn (I'm lazy). It didn't burn or anything and just just mildly unpleasant. The water just went up one nostril and out the other, and then I tilted my head left and right to drain what got stuck in my sinuses.

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RE: neti pots - 1/23/2012 8:32:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Soyokaze, what was the bottle you use to irrigate? Was it this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Waterpik-SWS-360-Sinusense-Eucalyptus/dp/B003QYFVDI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327379467&sr=8-4

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RE: neti pots - 1/23/2012 8:45:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, and neti pots can cause infections from forcing stuff up that should be going down [remember when douching was the rage until they figured that out?], plus not using sterile solutions as above [boiling water isn't enough], and from bacteria growing in the pots, especially if shared in the family. I just saw neti pots that are PLASTIC and completely uncleanable: urgh.
Remember snot is trying to dilute and conveyer-belt out the bacteria, fungi and viruses; don't interfere with the natural defenses by jamming them back up faster and higher up than was ever intended.
They make sterile ampoules of saline solutions which are single use and disposable; much safer if snort you must: in the paediatric section of nose drops.


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RE: neti pots - 1/24/2012 8:01:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Uhhh, nothing gets forced UP with a neti pot. It gently runs through. If the nose is already stuffed, nothing is going through.

And if my MD says it's copacetic........I am going to go with what my doctor tells me.


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RE: neti pots - 1/24/2012 12:41:02 PM   
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No, and neti pots can cause infections from forcing stuff up that should be going down [remember when douching was the rage until they figured that out?], plus not using sterile solutions as above [boiling water isn't enough], and from bacteria growing in the pots, especially if shared in the family. I just saw neti pots that are PLASTIC and completely uncleanable: urgh.
Remember snot is trying to dilute and conveyer-belt out the bacteria, fungi and viruses; don't interfere with the natural defenses by jamming them back up faster and higher up than was ever intended.
They make sterile ampoules of saline solutions which are single use and disposable; much safer if snort you must: in the paediatric section of nose drops.



All neti pots will say
1. do not share with another person
2. discard after illness

You can sometimes find ceramic(? I haven't looked at the boxes) at health food stores but neti pots are just not mainstream enough for normal retails to carry something like that which will cost twice as much.  A couple years ago you couldn't even find netipots in drug stores... its a supply and demand thing.

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RE: neti pots - 1/24/2012 1:51:12 PM   
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Soyokaze, what was the bottle you use to irrigate? Was it this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Waterpik-SWS-360-Sinusense-Eucalyptus/dp/B003QYFVDI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327379467&sr=8-4


It was this one in particular, but that one seems to be the same general type. I got mine at a walgreens or rite-aid type store, which may or may not have been cheaper (can't remember).

http://www.amazon.com/NeilMed-Sinus-Rinse-Premixed-Packets/dp/B000A0S5KC/ref=acc_glance_hpc_ai_ps_t_2

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RE: neti pots - 1/24/2012 4:59:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ceramic neti pots on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ceramic+neti+pot&x=0&y=0

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