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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 10:16:51 AM   
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Oh boy, another attempt to dress BDSM up as something it most of the time isn't. 







This guy...Every time he posts, I hear Eyore in my head. I swear I do. Or like that accountant stuffy nose guy with the glasses? I dunno his name. Not a clue.

But just this really groggy monotone voice.

And I just laugh. I can not help but crack the fuck up.

Aspergers anyone?


Whenever you post I cannot help but have my pupils directed to "Tsun Tzu." 

You Kentucky-types never fail to keep up appearances, I'll give you that.








Your insults are honestly not a bother, but please do, entertain yourself as much as you feel the need to.

I actually pride myself on having been raised in the backwoods of nothing and being far more intelligent than my "peers" (and I do use that term loosely) and the fact that I have to import anyone I choose to speak with on a "romantic" level, because these slack jawed, mouth breathers can't keep up with me.

But please. Continue.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 10:20:59 AM   
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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 10:33:29 AM   
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All hail Lithium I am not worthy.
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Niney,

It's early. Lol. At least for me.

Are you being sarcastic?

I love British humor, but I can't see past the fog to be for sure?
If it is-

Kisses
If it's not-

kisses to you. Us shit kickers have to stick together.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 11:08:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

Oh boy, another attempt to dress BDSM up as something it most of the time isn't.







This guy...Every time he posts, I hear Eyore in my head. I swear I do. Or like that accountant stuffy nose guy with the glasses? I dunno his name. Not a clue.

But just this really groggy monotone voice.

And I just laugh. I can not help but crack the fuck up.

Aspergers anyone?



Whenever you post I cannot help but have my pupils directed to "Tsun Tzu."

You Kentucky-types never fail to keep up appearances, I'll give you that.








Your insults are honestly not a bother, but please do, entertain yourself as much as you feel the need to.

I actually pride myself on having been raised in the backwoods of nothing and being far more intelligent than my "peers" (and I do use that term loosely) and the fact that I have to import anyone I choose to speak with on a "romantic" level, because these slack jawed, mouth breathers can't keep up with me.

But please. Continue.


This post gives my quoted post even greater hilarity. 


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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 11:13:09 AM   
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Hand on heart that wasn't a snark. I grew up in the middle of nowhere in Lancashire, Salmon, Sea Trout, Venison, poaching, wild garlic, hand me down firearms, no insurance cars, home brew.
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All hail Lithium I am not worthy.
From a rural shitkicker background English stylee I salute you



Niney,

It's early. Lol. At least for me.

Are you being sarcastic?

I love British humor, but I can't see past the fog to be for sure?
If it is-

Kisses
If it's not-

kisses to you. Us shit kickers have to stick together.



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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 12:46:53 PM   
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Hand on heart that wasn't a snark. I grew up in the middle of nowhere in Lancashire, Salmon, Sea Trout, Venison, poaching, wild garlic, hand me down firearms, no insurance cars, home brew.


You've just listed the very stuff of life Brother Nine, what better start could a man have!


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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 1:34:40 PM   
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I'm really glad you got something out of her words xXLithiumXx, I really didn't except for annoyance. You see her point of view as not being jaded, I'd rather be jaded. Then I won't be disappointed when people do the things that they do. Doesn't mean I'm not able to find beauty in the world or be surprised by moments of bliss....it just means that I have a more practical view of things and I like it that way. I'm also always ready to be surprised, I don't expect the worst from people, but I don't always expect the best either. When I get the best, it's a gift, not an expectation.

I'm not upset that others see things differently, I'm kind of glad they do, I just dont' have much use for the things that others 'think' should be meaningful to me. The wide-eyed idealistic thing isn't for me anymore, it brought me too much pain long ago. I'm done with it and glad for it. Life is much more peaceful and serene for me now that i get how things work.

Just another example of how things are indeed different for different folks. Carry on whoever wants to with the fairy tale view of things- glad it works for you.



I usually like reading your posts - all level-headed and sensible etc - but (uh-ohhh...) you seem to be going somewhat out of your way to take offense with this particular OP.

Just curious; what's the biggy? The topic is titled "My way of seeing it..." and the OP has since reiterated the obvious that it is just *her* opinion. I get it that the likes of Awareness, SB and NS rarely miss an opportunity to remind us how we're all small-time and how much they don't give a shit about anything blah freakin' blah (like we regulars need reminding...) but for you, your posts seem way out of character to me.

And I don't like it when my little world isn't making sense....

Anything? :)

Focus.


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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 2:43:19 PM   
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I usually like reading your posts - all level-headed and sensible etc - but (uh-ohhh...) you seem to be going somewhat out of your way to take offense with this particular OP.

Just curious; what's the biggy? The topic is titled "My way of seeing it..." and the OP has since reiterated the obvious that it is just *her* opinion. I get it that the likes of Awareness, SB and NS rarely miss an opportunity to remind us how we're all small-time and how much they don't give a shit about anything blah freakin' blah (like we regulars need reminding...) but for you, your posts seem way out of character to me.

And I don't like it when my little world isn't making sense....

Anything? :)

Focus.



I'm glad you pointed out that I seemed offended as I worked (I thought) to make my reply not be like that. I'll have to try harder next time. I kind of realized that what I said might seem rather sharp, but I honestly didn't intend it to be that way. It was meant to be an offering of another view.

Yes, I was kind of annoyed at the fairy tale the OP put out there, and she was completely within her rights to do so. I do heartily subscribe to the opinion that we all bring different things to the table here, can't tell you how much I've learned because of that. To me, her version is fairly idealistic, it also has a strong component of this is what is right, period. I think most adults get just a little pissy, myself included, when we're told how to go about our lives. To me the biggy was that it seemed she chose to present herself in a manner that was more than espousing this for herself. It seemed to me that she was putting out her opinion as more of how things should be on a common basis. I freely admitted in the reply that you quoted that I have a hot spot when others purport to speak for me or try to tell me what to do. I feel that I can intelligently choose those things for myself.

Although this OP did say it was her view, it was her way of communicating her view that put me off so to speak. I do absolutely espouse anyone's choice for themselves, and she can say what she wants, I just wanted to also say something too. I dont think I was going out of my way to take offense, but rather standing up for a different point of view. If I were to be completely transparent with you, I'm not actually sure if there is any logical reason I can tell you why her view of BDSM got under my skin, other than it seemed to be that she was saying hers was the one true way. I'm usually not bothered by people who do that.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 3:23:41 PM   
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Hand on heart that wasn't a snark. I grew up in the middle of nowhere in Lancashire, Salmon, Sea Trout, Venison, poaching, wild garlic, hand me down firearms, no insurance cars, home brew.
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All hail Lithium I am not worthy.
From a rural shitkicker background English stylee I salute you



Niney,

It's early. Lol. At least for me.

Are you being sarcastic?

I love British humor, but I can't see past the fog to be for sure?
If it is-

Kisses
If it's not-

kisses to you. Us shit kickers have to stick together.






I love you Niney.

-nods nods nods-



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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 3:24:44 PM   
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Oh boy, another attempt to dress BDSM up as something it most of the time isn't.







This guy...Every time he posts, I hear Eyore in my head. I swear I do. Or like that accountant stuffy nose guy with the glasses? I dunno his name. Not a clue.

But just this really groggy monotone voice.

And I just laugh. I can not help but crack the fuck up.

Aspergers anyone?



Whenever you post I cannot help but have my pupils directed to "Tsun Tzu."

You Kentucky-types never fail to keep up appearances, I'll give you that.








Your insults are honestly not a bother, but please do, entertain yourself as much as you feel the need to.

I actually pride myself on having been raised in the backwoods of nothing and being far more intelligent than my "peers" (and I do use that term loosely) and the fact that I have to import anyone I choose to speak with on a "romantic" level, because these slack jawed, mouth breathers can't keep up with me.

But please. Continue.


This post gives my quoted post even greater hilarity. 





Whatever floats your boat pal.



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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 3:25:14 PM   
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I love you too Lithium
xxx

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 4:06:44 PM   
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And you know I came from the mean streets of Toronto!  I think I may be the toughest man around.  An understatement, obviously.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 4:08:02 PM   
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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 4:12:21 PM   
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Lizi..I didn't find your words harsh at all. I guess that could be because I know you and the spirit you intended in them, or because I'm a jaded bitch, whicheves, but I don't think you did or said anything "wrong".

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 6:04:46 PM   
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For me, BDSM lifestyle is not just about sex. So many times I see or hear about this lifestyle being all about the sex. Having a Dom and submissive relationship requires a lot of things. Patience, trust, time, care, love, honesty, learning, teaching, finding likes/dislikes. I don't like seeing people who are just like 'Looking for a Dom/sub relationship, sex, sex and sex.' 'Hey lets cam together so you can show me everything, then I'm going to forget about you.' 'Wanna hook up this weekend?'


Most people look at the BDSM lifestyle as just a kinkier sex. Bondage, maybe some spanks here or there then lots of sex. It's sad when that is the first thing people think of when told about the BDSM lifestyle and having a Dom/sub.


No, a Dom/Domme is a protector, mentor, parent-like, therapist, teacher. They care about their sub, about their subs feelings, their day, their problems. Patience when teaching or learning about their sub. They take the sub past what they think they're capable of, and works with them to achieve greater things. They help the sub work through their insecurities, doubts, things that the sub wishes he/she could get over. They are, Master. Mistress. Dom. Domme. Daddy. Mommy. Sir. Miss.

It's a relationship, not a booty call.


Submissives accept their place in this relationship. The learner, the one who cares for the Dom/Domme, has trust in them, trust that the Dom/Domme will mold them the way they think is right and the way they want. They have faith the relationship works, struggle through things they didn't think they could get through and works through it, someone who works hard, works through the pain and someone who has patience to learn. Trust and patience is a really big key here for a submissive. They are putting their mind, body and soul into someones else's hands.


The submissive (possibly talking about the beginning and start of the relationship) shouldn't be waiting and anxious for the sex. The submissive should be anxious about the collar that he/she will be receiving from their Dom/Domme.


Receiving the collar. That's the greatest moment in a Dom/sub relationship. Not the sex. (even thought that's a nice part to it as well :P)

You B/both walk this journey together.

That's my opinion.. I guess I was frustrated enough to post about it. :P


Layla, <3 (please don't mind the grammar and spelling mistakes. I'm not here for that, I'm here to post my opinion. Thanksss.)



Nicely put, and I agree totally when you are talking bd/sm relationships. I think what happens is you see people who are seeking sex partners into kinky play (which there is nothing wrong with), rather then BD/SM style relationships. For those people kink is an enhancement to sex, not about expressing an underlying dynamic (just my opinion, no right or wrong answers here).

It is like there are people who are into the S/M elements because they enjoy topping/bottoming, rather then being into a d/s relationship and for them it is about the sensation play and (in many cases) the sex that follows, or is part of the play.

I see this with erotic fiction on sites like Literotica where people are all caught up in the idea of the kinky play alone, or caught up in the idea of the 'cruel dominant' and the 'lowly worm sub', and IMO it is written by people who don't know. I remember talking to a vanilla friend about d/s relationships, master/slave, etc, and explaining to him that the relationships are not about the whips and chains and so forth, but about establishing a relationship based on love and mutual respect where one person agrees to allow the other one elements of control over them, and that in many ways it IMO is a lot stronger relationship then vanilla ones, since so much trust is required both ways, and communications and work, when I explained to him about lifestyle people I knew and how hard they worked on their relationships, he was amazed, his comment was regular relationships often seem to be run on mutual assumptions rather then actual communications and trust.....

I think the OP was talking about d/s relationships, which is her thing, and expressing what she sees, I don't think she was criticizing others particularly. I understand why people are sensitive, there are plenty of people in the 'bd/sm' sphere who claim right and proper, who seek to determine what others should do, but I didn't get it out of the OP's post, it wasn't like she was some 'old guard' type claiming 'truth', not at all. I do think with certain types of BD/SM/DS relationships it is a lot more then sex, at varying levels. I also will add that BD/SM play for me turns sex into something fantastic, but what the hell:)

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 6:06:09 PM   
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Hand on heart that wasn't a snark. I grew up in the middle of nowhere in Lancashire, Salmon, Sea Trout, Venison, poaching, wild garlic, hand me down firearms, no insurance cars, home brew.


You've just listed the very stuff of life Brother Nine, what better start could a man have!





I really need to import a Brit or an Irish guy. I so love the accent, and if the voice is the right timbre...OMG...what I wouldn't do.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 6:07:25 PM   
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melt in my arms...

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 6:11:32 PM   
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melt in my arms...



^.~

I have always had a thing for Brits, Irishmen and Scotsmen.

It's terrible. I know.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 6:45:48 PM   
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Not from where I'm looking it isn't.

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RE: My way of seeing it... - 1/28/2012 8:06:19 PM   
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Not from where I'm looking it isn't.



=P

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