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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/occupy-wall-street-protesters-throw-condoms-drown-out-speakers-at-rhode-isl

The original story.

So now we have to protect catholic high school girls from condoms? The right to lifers dont mind putting these girls into the middle of the abortion issue. These people walk around cities all over the country with signs of dismembered fetuses, labeling them "infants". They harrass any woman walking into or out of any PP clinic.

And I am supposed to care about a group getting pelted with condoms who have repeatedly decried the use of said condoms until just recently... and then only to protect against Aids?

Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions
Catholic women account for 31.3%
Jewish women account for 1.3%
18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical"

Seems to me they needed to throw more condoms at the hypocrites. Cover that fucker up and you will take care of many of the abortions within your own religion that you complain about. ( you meaning Catholics)

Yeah, I dont think that will ever happen.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I taught at a Catholic school. They NEED all the condoms they can get. Hell, at least they were tossing unused condoms to them.

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Well I suppose if the right to lifers are dragging kids into the conflict, then hell yes, we should too. And no, you shouldn't feel bad for those kids. If they didn't want condoms thrown at them, they should have refused to be sent to a catholic school. After all, most of the bs I hear from the catholics, actually come from the kids. Swear to the goddess, it's true.

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Some old Hippie Dude posted this on OccupyTogether:

Well, you want my opinion, the "Movement" is getting bogged down in pie-in-the-sky endless theoretical rhetorical babble, much like SDS did way back in the day.

And those "Direct Action" Baader-Meinhof wannabe soi-disant "anarchists" who are evidently suffering testosterone poisoning seem to have hijacked Oakland. If there is anything more counterproductive than burning a flag, I can't think of one (well, I can, but I'm not going to give anyone any ideas). That pisses me off, and I have no philosophical objection to flag-burning per se. It pisses me off because it has turned a couple million people who were on the fence, or supported the movement silently, against us.

We need those people. They don't want to hear all this "bury Capitalism" rhetoric (and I'm a Libertarian Socialist who would like nothing more than to see Capitalism consigned to the ashheap of history). They just want to be heard, and to have their needs met, and to have an honest, effective and efficient government.

They want the money out of Politics. That's what I myself thought was the original grievance expressed at the start of the Movement. That's what I want to see happen. IMO, nothing else is going to be changed until that is achieved.

That's what I want, for now. We can work on other things that need to be done, of course, but I think those other dominos (ending foreclosures, universal health care, and so on) ain't gonna fall until that big Wall Street domino is kicked over.
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http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/occupy-wall-street-protesters-throw-condoms-drown-out-speakers-at-rhode-isl
The original story.

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ORIGINAL: Trismagistus

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Some old Hippie Dude posted this on OccupyTogether:

Well, you want my opinion, the "Movement" is getting bogged down in pie-in-the-sky endless theoretical rhetorical babble, much like SDS did way back in the day.

And those "Direct Action" Baader-Meinhof wannabe soi-disant "anarchists" who are evidently suffering testosterone poisoning seem to have hijacked Oakland. If there is anything more counterproductive than burning a flag, I can't think of one (well, I can, but I'm not going to give anyone any ideas). That pisses me off, and I have no philosophical objection to flag-burning per se. It pisses me off because it has turned a couple million people who were on the fence, or supported the movement silently, against us.

We need those people. They don't want to hear all this "bury Capitalism" rhetoric (and I'm a Libertarian Socialist who would like nothing more than to see Capitalism consigned to the ashheap of history). They just want to be heard, and to have their needs met, and to have an honest, effective and efficient government.

They want the money out of Politics. That's what I myself thought was the original grievance expressed at the start of the Movement. That's what I want to see happen. IMO, nothing else is going to be changed until that is achieved.

That's what I want, for now. We can work on other things that need to be done, of course, but I think those other dominos (ending foreclosures, universal health care, and so on) ain't gonna fall until that big Wall Street domino is kicked over.
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*bashes his face repeatedly on the keyboard* yes, you're absolutely right that we have to start with one thing at a time, but if you've really been around the block long enough to realize how this is all going, why don't you realize that at no point can we truly win our freedom through protest? These warmongering money grubbing cowards will only give us just enough to appease us until we stop paying attention for one split second, they've already proved that with SOPA (seriously, expect it sometime in the next few months or at most the end of the year) what we should be doing is taking Oakland's actions to the next level, stop burning flags and start burning politicians and corporations, and don't stop as long as a single one of those worthless sacks of human waste still lives. Idealism is all well and good, but what we're faced with isn't a government that has an ear for it's people, we're dealing with an ill disguised monster in a human suit trying to sell us on a police state because the big bad terrorists (who are still alive and well in various areas of the country btw) crashed some planes into a bunch of buildings over a decade ago. They aren't even trying to hide how hideous and repulsive they are because they don't have to, people will just keep clapping, waving their yankee swastikas and declaring their unending devotion to 'merica, God save it. And meanwhile the voice of reason is sitting here agreeing with them tacitly by not turning from a voice to a fist and crushing them in the name of freeing the cattle from the pen. I wish it weren't true, I would love it if you could convince me of some way that peace can actually win the day, I'm scared shitless of fighting with violence to save this country but the simple fact is that I can't see any way that the logistics of the situation can work out to a peaceful solution that doesn't include all of us penned and tagged like the cattle we're already being brainwashed into.

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

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ORIGINAL: Trismagistus

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Some old Hippie Dude posted this on OccupyTogether:

Well, you want my opinion, the "Movement" is getting bogged down in pie-in-the-sky endless theoretical rhetorical babble, much like SDS did way back in the day.

And those "Direct Action" Baader-Meinhof wannabe soi-disant "anarchists" who are evidently suffering testosterone poisoning seem to have hijacked Oakland. If there is anything more counterproductive than burning a flag, I can't think of one (well, I can, but I'm not going to give anyone any ideas). That pisses me off, and I have no philosophical objection to flag-burning per se. It pisses me off because it has turned a couple million people who were on the fence, or supported the movement silently, against us.

We need those people. They don't want to hear all this "bury Capitalism" rhetoric (and I'm a Libertarian Socialist who would like nothing more than to see Capitalism consigned to the ashheap of history). They just want to be heard, and to have their needs met, and to have an honest, effective and efficient government.

They want the money out of Politics. That's what I myself thought was the original grievance expressed at the start of the Movement. That's what I want to see happen. IMO, nothing else is going to be changed until that is achieved.

That's what I want, for now. We can work on other things that need to be done, of course, but I think those other dominos (ending foreclosures, universal health care, and so on) ain't gonna fall until that big Wall Street domino is kicked over.
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*bashes his face repeatedly on the keyboard* yes, you're absolutely right that we have to start with one thing at a time, but if you've really been around the block long enough to realize how this is all going, why don't you realize that at no point can we truly win our freedom through protest? These warmongering money grubbing cowards will only give us just enough to appease us until we stop paying attention for one split second, they've already proved that with SOPA (seriously, expect it sometime in the next few months or at most the end of the year) what we should be doing is taking Oakland's actions to the next level, stop burning flags and start burning politicians and corporations, and don't stop as long as a single one of those worthless sacks of human waste still lives. Idealism is all well and good, but what we're faced with isn't a government that has an ear for it's people, we're dealing with an ill disguised monster in a human suit trying to sell us on a police state because the big bad terrorists (who are still alive and well in various areas of the country btw) crashed some planes into a bunch of buildings over a decade ago. They aren't even trying to hide how hideous and repulsive they are because they don't have to, people will just keep clapping, waving their yankee swastikas and declaring their unending devotion to 'merica, God save it. And meanwhile the voice of reason is sitting here agreeing with them tacitly by not turning from a voice to a fist and crushing them in the name of freeing the cattle from the pen. I wish it weren't true, I would love it if you could convince me of some way that peace can actually win the day, I'm scared shitless of fighting with violence to save this country but the simple fact is that I can't see any way that the logistics of the situation can work out to a peaceful solution that doesn't include all of us penned and tagged like the cattle we're already being brainwashed into.

"See you at the Barricades!" "We'll have blood in the streets!" "Da, Komrade, Smash the State!"

Feel better now?

I mean, do you seriously think a couple hundred Twens tossing bottles and burning flags is going to accomplish anything?

Read. Learn.

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The government really is out to get us this time, NDAA, ACTA, SOPA, there was a time when I was a kid when I thought we were the greatest nation in the world, I was an idiot, I regret those days, but I also regret that people who've made it to adulthood still believe that we can use the tools of a fake democracy to right it's wrongs.

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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The government really is out to get us this time, NDAA, ACTA, SOPA, there was a time when I was a kid when I thought we were the greatest nation in the world, I was an idiot, I regret those days, but I also regret that people who've made it to adulthood still believe that we can use the tools of a fake democracy to right it's wrongs.

300 million people take a while to wake up. And yeah, there's a real attempt to install an infrastructure of restraint.  But I'll tell ya this, and I heard it from John Perry Barlow himself in a TH Meeting online over NDAA. He was very quick to acknowledge that EFF and other groups are getting remarkable assistance from the Occupy movement and that much of what they have been able to accomplish in terms of bringing the fight to them has been a direct result of the hard work and diligence of the Occupy Movement.
   But I have great faith that there's more to come. And yeah, I think there will be strategies like Oakland's showing up in other places probably. But I also think, forget that, I know, through direct participation that there is a core of us who are constantly working on putting the message in the heads of the general population. Just watch what happens this spring and at the conventions. There's going to be a lot happening at those times.

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ORIGINAL: Trismagistus


Dunno, you think a bunch of 20 somethings waving signs and sitting in a drum circle will change anything? It may not be the prescribed method but it promises to be no less effective than anything else occupy is doing at this time. All I'm saying is that we're sitting in the midst of a potentially disaster wave of legislation that keeps on crashing into our freedoms and threatening to erase them, I wish it wasn't true but the facts don't lie, The government really is out to get us this time, NDAA, ACTA, SOPA, there was a time when I was a kid when I thought we were the greatest nation in the world, I was an idiot, I regret those days, but I also regret that people who've made it to adulthood still believe that we can use the tools of a fake democracy to right it's wrongs.