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TheKingofHell -> Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 10:39:43 AM)

I do and this is my evidence. [:D] YAY MY FIRST IMAGE POST!!! [:)]
[image]http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/picture/cybrok/GingerMidget.png[/image]
Side note this is meant to be a joke not offensive.



LaTigresse -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 10:59:28 AM)

But it is.



needlesandpins -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 12:10:58 PM)

i don't because i have absolutely nothing to say that 'he' does.

trainwreck ahoy

needles



ConfidencePlays -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 12:25:22 PM)

I'm inclined to say "Yes", though to be honest I'm just about the least religious person I've ever met.

The laws of science as we know them state a few things, among them that in a closed system mass and matter will remain consistent. Matter does not simply conjure itself into existence. I consider the whole of our universe to be one such closed system.

The universe as we know it must have -some- kind of origin point. I suppose a "God" is as good a guess as any.

I'm also inclined to say that this hypothetical "God" couldn't possibly care less about our proclivities. We aren't his highest creation. Simple chaos is. The chance for a galaxy to spin backward. For a planet to sustain life, for that life to be obliterated in the blink of an eye. The chance for things to happen completely differently than anyone ever could have seen coming.

Just an opinion.





LaTigresse -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 12:26:40 PM)

I don't think the OP had any intention of actually debating the existence of a god. My reply was in response to the sentence he added below the offensive photo.



doctorgrey -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 12:47:46 PM)

yes, it IS offensive, but then, so is the notion of god.

DrG



Kaliko -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 1:08:58 PM)

A basic rule I teach my daughter: If you have to warn someone "No offense" when you comment, then your comment is offensive.





Duskypearls -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 1:23:21 PM)

I think it's safe to assume, that no matter what you say, someone, somewhere, sometime, somehow will probably be offended....some more than others.

Therefore, if I do not intentionally mean to offend, I tend to think "Never explain, never complain," and do not offer apologies or explanations for my thoughts, feelings, or opinions, unless asked to do so. Providing you are of sound and responsible mind, be, unapologetically, who you are. What others make of that is entirely up to them.

However, on the very rare occasion in which I do intend to offend, such as towards those of a dangerous or predatory nature, you can be darned sure I will do so swiftly, efficiently, and with rapier wit, leaving them to bleed out long before they've even felt the blade. Ahhh, the power of words!



Aylee -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 1:50:21 PM)

I did not understand the poster. If there is a g*d, why would a red-headed midget mean that he hated me?

I am not offended. I am puzzled.



ResidentSadist -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 1:55:05 PM)

I'm not sure I grasp the offensive part?  I see a wet midget taking a bath with cute rubber duckies... but then again, MJ didn't see anything wrong with what he did.  Is this supposed to be an extension of the red heads are ugly thread?



Winterapple -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 2:06:15 PM)

Don't get it and the question seems odd coming
from the King of Hell. I mean you and God have
a history right? Why would you need to offer
up weird, incomprensible, offensive shit off
the Internet to offer up as evidence?
It was always my understanding you were
up there with him back in the day.
[:-]



Winterapple -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 2:07:39 PM)

Meant to put fast reply I wasn't replying to you Aylee



kalikshama -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 7:15:52 PM)

Boring troll is boring.



DarkSteven -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (1/31/2012 7:30:30 PM)

It is evident that man cannot have created the world, so that something greater than man did it.  The only question is whether that stronger entity is random or is capable of thought.

I choose to believe that it is in fact capable of thought.  Thus I choose to believe in a thinking creature capable of creating the world, and I choose to call it God.



FrostedFlake -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (2/1/2012 2:25:23 AM)

The evidence for the existence of God is the existence of the Universe.

The actual nature of the creator is the subject of speculation. And wars. Let's not overlook the wars.



TorMaster -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (2/1/2012 12:51:44 PM)

All the proof I need is a mirror [;)]



stef -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (2/1/2012 1:42:47 PM)

Is male pattern baldness a sign of godhood?



Delilya -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (2/1/2012 1:52:51 PM)

I believe because I am alive, against all odds.



thishereboi -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (2/1/2012 2:01:10 PM)

quote:

Side note this is meant to be a joke not offensive.
quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

But it is.


I agree. Funny how when someone says something like that, it usually is. It's like they know it will but think putting up a disclaimer will make it better.



CountrySong -> RE: Think there is a god and what is your evidence? (2/3/2012 5:51:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
It is evident that man cannot have created the world, so that something greater than man did it.  The only question is whether that stronger entity is random or is capable of thought.
I choose to believe that it is in fact capable of thought.  Thus I choose to believe in a thinking creature capable of creating the world, and I choose to call it God.

Hum - last I checked, the prevailing theory for the creation of the world was that a series of stars and supernovas created the heavy elements needed to make our world and give us the eliments needed for life like - iron for our blood. Gravity, eventually lead to some of the mass of one of those explosions forming the sun and a disk of dust spinning around the sun. (we see similar things happening in nebulas) Withing that disk of dust, gravity and impacts formed the earth and by luck our planet was protected from a lot of damage by the larger gas giants in the outer solar system. (current estimates based on Kelper data indicate over 2 billion earth like planets in our galaxy alone)

Every time I hear that some god created us then I have to ask these questions:
1) If some supreme being created us then why did that being do such a piss poor job?
Many animals have capabilities well beyond humans in speed, senses, and strength! Humans are smart but we certainly are not that smart. Heck, we are not even the longest lived animal on the planet.
We also have very limited brains which certainly can not handle the vast amount of data currently availible. In fact, that is probably why we need the concept of a god it is simple and easy to understand. Most of us dropped out of school long before we could understand the mathematics needed to acurately describe nature as far as we currently understand it. (Plus, the need for some way of escaping the scariest fear for most humans - death with no afterlife.)
2) Why bother with the rest of the universe if we are so f***ing important? Heck, you don't really even need a galaxy to have humans. As small globular cluster would work fine!
3) Why wait billions of years to make humans?

God is a myth that we made up to comfort ourselves and explain things that we were and are too dumb/eneducated to understand, don't want to understand, and don't really need to understand for our species to procreate. Eventually, we will be replaced either by mechanical lifeforms (ala AI the movie), animals that humans altered (ala Planet Of The Apes), a genetically altered line of homosapien, or some nasty entity from outerspace (pick your movie or book)!

We were created by our sun, our planet, and millions of years of evolution.

If the sun and the earth are intelegent then I would love to speak to them and have a meaningful conversation that the rest of humanity could understand, listen to, and share in. If a god exists then let god appear so that humanity can chat and everyone could get on the same religious page.



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