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BenevolentM -> Catholic Schooling (2/3/2012 2:58:40 PM)

There were references made to Catholic school students in the "Occupist punks storm city hall, burn flags" which is located at http://www.collarchat.com/m_4015710/tm.htm since some Occupy protesters threw condoms on some Catholic school students. I am curious what sort of experiences people here have with Catholic schooling. My Catholic school experience was chiefly positive. Just look how I turned out! That was intended to be a convoluted joke. My memories of Catholic school are pleasant. There was a sense of community. The girls would tease me, but it was attention and I got a lot of it. I was shy.




BenevolentM -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 5:51:16 PM)

It took so long to get approved, no one got a chance to post something to this thread.




Kaliko -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 6:38:03 PM)

I had nine years of Catholic school. In many ways, it was stereotypical - heavyset, red-faced sisters who would slap our hands with rulers and I myself have personally had my head banged against the wall in front of the entire junior high wing for wearing black nail polish; tired looking lay teachers with shirts too low cut and hickeys on their neck (what a buzz that was for us kids); repressed and rote instruction without allowance for discussion of anything past "there is one Lord Jesus and anyone who doesn't believe that is going to burn for eternity"; kids were having sex like rabbits in the corners of the school before straightening their plaid skirt and knee highs and returning back to class; and our head pastor was convicted of child molestation.

These two schools I attended, by the way, were and still are prestigious schools in their area.

I also went to public school for a few years. The only similarity was the sex in the corners of the school.

ETA - oh, and like the Motley Crue Song - SO much smoking in the girl's room. Holy cow, I was so corrupted by the end of 9th grade in so many ways. That's why I tamed down so much in college. I had already done it all in Catholic school.






TheHeretic -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 7:19:03 PM)

I can't speak to Catholic school, but I did spend a couple years incarcerated in a Baptist one. It wasn't pleasant, or very educational.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 7:22:28 PM)

I taught at a Catholic school for a year.




Kaliko -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 7:31:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I taught at a Catholic school for a year.


And what did you think of it?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 7:34:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I taught at a Catholic school for a year.


And what did you think of it?

It was a job. It paid poorly and the kids were assholes.

Pretty funny thing. First week I was there, the place had an electrical fire. It's like God was telling em. oh hell no, not him.




JanahX -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 7:38:40 PM)

I'm a recovering Catholic. That shit fucked me up for life.




SternSkipper -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:07:15 PM)

Yeah, well it's looking more and more from witness accounts that what really happened was the young woman who runs a gay women's feminist organization based out of Providence threw some condoms on the floor at an event RI's cream of the crazy crop were there and they brought kids that in most people's opinions are much to young to be brought to an anti-abortion rally, never mind even have been educated to that degree about reproduction. I know the Boy Scouts are investigating their bringing 4 boys in the group had wolf cub patches (2nd grade).
   There is absolutely no evidence I've seen that indicates there was even a real disturbance at the event.
   But whatever, someone off their meds got to crow a lot over this I am sure.


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I am curious what sort of experiences people here have with Catholic schooling. My Catholic school experience was chiefly positive. Just look how I turned out!


I went to catholic grade school through 8th grade and did two years on a 'townie scholarship' at one of the best Benedictine Private Schools in the country. My favorite teacher ever was my science teacher Father Jeffrey, who during the Manhattan Project reported directly to Oppenheimer (the guy had a knot the size of a golfball on his head and people talked behind his back about the glow that emanated from his hood when he went for walks at night... not really but it made for some pretty good jokes).
  I think though I didn't go all the way to 12th, it had a LOT to do with my finishing second at the public school  in the bake-off for valedictorian.
   I haven't got a single complaint. In fact, I used to be picked on by a kid 4 grades above me until one day I was pulled aside By SAM (sister Anthonie Mary) She was a tough old irish bird and after less than a week of lunchtime sparring I sent the fat fuck that was trying to grab my nuts for three weeks to the hospital with a broken nose and a loose tooth (I really loved 4th grade).
   So basically, while I am raising my own kids to be a good deal less punitive, I was none the worse for wear.





SternSkipper -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:14:29 PM)

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I taught at a Catholic school for a year.


Lay teachers... fuckin yuck.





Hillwilliam -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:16:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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I taught at a Catholic school for a year.


Lay teachers... fuckin yuck.



They needed a science teacher and wrestling coach and I was finishing grad school.

At least, if I had a bad day, I could go beat hell out of someone after school. I did that a LOT.




Kaliko -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:20:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

   I haven't got a single complaint. In fact, I used to be picked on by a kid 4 grades above me until one day I was pulled aside By SAM (sister Anthonie Mary) She was a tough old irish bird and after less than a week of lunchtime sparring I sent the fat fuck that was trying to grab my nuts for three weeks to the hospital with a broken nose and a loose tooth (I really loved 4th grade).
   So basically, while I am raising my own kids to be a good deal less punitive, I was none the worse for wear.




Yes, actually - while I concentrated on the stereotypes in my post above, there were certainly some good memories, too. Specifically, Father Joe, a great Italian priest, had a German Shepherd by his side constantly. It was such a treat to see the dog drinking water from the fountains during the day. :) And we used to have the blessings of the animals once a year when we all brought in our pets to be blessed. And we had a kick-ass folk band. So, it wasn't all doom and gloom, by any means. It just was fairly stereotypical, for me, in a lot of ways.

And to this day, I can still say the Hail Mary in French. I don't speak French at all otherwise, but the brothers did drill that one in to me fairly well.




SilverBoat -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:23:31 PM)

I was raised Catholic, but wound up Jesuit. Those guys are crossways with the Vatican about half the time, otherwise I'd probably have never set voluntary foot in a church again. Now I just go every now and then for the music, hatch-match-n-dispatch, to check out the art and architecture.

That whole condom-tossing episode seems a really fucked-up way for whoever it was to try leverage social/media shock/attention to whatever their screwy issue was ...
(Pardon the perjoratives, but they seemed appropriate somehow ... )
 
 




SilverBoat -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:31:08 PM)

Most of the teachers, at least now that I look back at things, seemed to honestly give a damn about education, but some of them had rather twisted ways of expressing that. There was only one gay-pedophile episode that I know of (he got booted a couple years after I graduated), and the usual swats etc were certainly motivation to not get caught if doing something wrong ...




Edwynn -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:47:09 PM)


Another person I worked with at some point followed essentially the same half&half CS -> PS  track I did and seemed to have had roughly the same experience and impressions of it. "In Catholic school you feared the teachers, in public school you feared the students." Even though some nuns were a bit harsh, none of them ever outright insulted or verbally humiliated a child in front of the class, as one lay teacher did sometimes, and more than a few public school teachers in fact seemed to take great pride in doing. In PS there was noticeably less classroom control and no attempt at hallway control to speak of.




BenevolentM -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 8:52:14 PM)

Most everyone seems to remember what the teacher's were like.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

... in front of the entire junior high wing for wearing black nail polish ...



I remember that too, the uniform. I wasn't always in strict compliance, but that wasn't my fault. I do recall telling the mother superior off once.




SilverBoat -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 9:09:33 PM)

I've known a lot of people who did various amounts of time between Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, and Public schools. Generally, their take was that the schooling was much better in the Cath, Prot, and Prep schools, maybe a grade-level or two ahead of the Pub schools. The few that survived Evang schools with enough sanity to communicate said it was nearly constant fundinculcation.

I wound up judging a few academic competitions at a 'Christian' school, and it was just plain a weird experience.




SternSkipper -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 9:44:36 PM)

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They needed a science teacher and wrestling coach and I was finishing grad school.
At least, if I had a bad day, I could go beat hell out of someone after school. I did that a LOT.


I don't know how off topic it would be here, but I have a great story about a Lay teacher who set a trap to catch a group of "Walkers" smoking near school grounds of Our Lady of Providence... Wasn't as productive for that lay teacher as it was for you apparently[:D]




SternSkipper -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 9:57:30 PM)

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Yes, actually - while I concentrated on the stereotypes in my post above, there were certainly some good memories, too. Specifically, Father Joe, a great Italian priest, had a German Shepherd by his side constantly. It was such a treat to see the dog drinking water from the fountains during the day. :) And we used to have the blessings of the animals once a year when we all brought in our pets to be blessed. And we had a kick-ass folk band. So, it wasn't all doom and gloom, by any means. It just was fairly stereotypical, for me, in a lot of ways.


That's pretty neat. Having grown up on a horse farm with a bent toward animal medicine (I was the after school volunteer with both of the island's vets when In was younger), I was always being asked to bring stuff in. Mostly rabbits, cause they were easy to transport. But one year, my Dad and I brought a small carriage down to send off a priest going into retirement to ride off in.

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And to this day, I can still say the Hail Mary in French. I don't speak French at all otherwise, but the brothers did drill that one in to me fairly well.


I had the weirdest experience about 10 years ago. I was sent to Montreal by IBM and they booked me a room near the account in Old Montreal. Much of the printed material is in french and the people will speak in french only if they think you can as well.
  While i was really rough around the edges, I survived about 4 days speaking no more than about a third english. I successfully communicated with restaurant people with no english at all and to the best of my knowledge was never fed a rat or anything.[:D]





SternSkipper -> RE: Catholic Schooling (2/5/2012 10:05:23 PM)

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I've known a lot of people who did various amounts of time between Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, and Public schools.


Catholic schools aren't like any of the others... there's huge differences. I've attended a public school for my last two years of HS... But I knew Episcopal kids and it just wasn't the same. I used to share notes with a guy who went to 'the competition', St. George's where if you fuck up "they have George Plympton give you a good talking to" ... what do you want from a school on Purgatory road?





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