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Zonie63 -> What is a troll? (2/8/2012 7:07:33 PM)

Actually, I already know how troll is defined on the internet, but I thought this was an interesting perspective just the same: http://gizmodo.com/5873503/why-we-troll

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Why We Troll
At the end of this post there is a comment form, where you can weigh in and tell me I am wrong. If you do that, however—even if you have a great point—you're probably a troll.

I know. You don't think you are a troll. You are simply assured of your righteousness. You're just demonstrating your case. And you're justifiably adamant about it.

Which is exactly what makes you a troll. (Hi!)

Look, there are two basic types of trolls. One is the person who says or does something simply to get a rise out of people, or to fulfill some horrible void in his or her soul. The kind of shithead who harasses women with breast cancer.

But that kind of troll is thankfully pretty uncommon—like the comic book villain who actually wants to destroy Earth. More common is the guy who thinks he's flying the flag for truth and justice, and, in the process, becomes a complete asshole. A misguided villain. Like Magneto.

Trolling is often no more than self-righteousness. It's something people do because they are convinced that everyone who disagrees with them is wrong; they feel so strongly about other people being wrong that they justify and justify and, in the process, transform into giant dicks.

Trolling is an inability to filter: an uncontrollable urge to say "you're wrong." You are wrong about Apple. You are wrong about Google. You are wrong about Microsoft, and HP and Android and Sony and everything else, too. And while we are at it, your grammar is atrocious.

"While it is certainly likely that some people in the world are simply mean, I think that more often than not, mean things get said or written by people who have strong beliefs that they think represent the truth," says Dr. Simon Rego, Director of Psychology Training at Montefiore Medical Center. "And they expect others in the world to agree with them.

"I'd bet the people you call ‘trolls' would have good intentions, and see themselves as good people who are simply trying to help the world see things the "correct" (i.e., their) way. I would also bet that they think that other people are the ones being trolls."

Simply put: When you leave that comment down below, about how I'm wrong and Dr. Rego's a hack and by the way that sculpture's clearly an ogre, it's not that you're trying to be a troll. It's that sometimes we just can't come to bed because someone is wrong on the Internet. We stay up all night, seething. Tweeting. Calling in expert testimony from academics to bolster opinions, and writing missives about how everyone else is trolling us.

Why does that sound so familiar?


[image]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/image]




FirmhandKY -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 8:40:40 PM)

You've been visiting the P&R forums, haven't you, Zonie? [8D]

Firm




xanzabelle -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 8:43:42 PM)

wow ...




tazzygirl -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 8:45:45 PM)

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. [;)]




Kaliko -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 8:53:16 PM)

So the writer of that message is pointing out how others who assert their opinion against others are wrong to do so, turn themselves into "giant dicks" (a girl could only hope), and that often good intentions run awry into opinionated diatribes.

Thus, by his own definition, wouldn't he be....a troll?




LordToaster -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 9:07:58 PM)

Look, there are two basic types of trolls. One is the person who says or does something simply to get a rise out of people, or to fulfill some horrible void in his or her soul.
lol.. yup..




Zonie63 -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 9:18:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

You've been visiting the P&R forums, haven't you, Zonie? [8D]

Firm



True. [:)]





Zonie63 -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 9:33:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

So the writer of that message is pointing out how others who assert their opinion against others are wrong to do so, turn themselves into "giant dicks" (a girl could only hope), and that often good intentions run awry into opinionated diatribes.

Thus, by his own definition, wouldn't he be....a troll?


Probably so. I think the word "troll" gets tossed around rather casually, so I don't actually agree with everything this writer is saying. I think he might be confusing "troll" with "flame," although I don't see the term "flame" used much anymore, as "troll" seems to be the preferred term nowadays.

I actually use this site (Flame Warriors) to sort out the different internet personalities one might encounter. It's obviously tongue-in-cheek, but a lot of it is true. I probably most readily identify with Philosopher myself.







FrostedFlake -> RE: What is a troll? (2/8/2012 10:00:39 PM)

"Powerfucking"


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Which is a troll? Who's a troll? What's a troll? I'm a troll? You're a troll.




TreasureKY -> RE: What is a troll? (2/9/2012 5:04:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. [;)]


Ahhh... but that begs the question: are they entitled to spout them off to everyone else at every opportunity?  [:D]




Yachtie -> RE: What is a troll? (2/9/2012 5:08:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. [;)]


Ahhh... but that begs the question: are they entitled to spout them off to everyone else at every opportunity?  [:D]



NO! Which is why we non-trolls hammer them into little pieces[8D]

This is the Internet. If there was something actually good on the tele or I has a sub to play with, I'd most likely not be here entertaining myself with the trolls




tazzygirl -> RE: What is a troll? (2/9/2012 6:10:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. [;)]


Ahhh... but that begs the question: are they entitled to spout them off to everyone else at every opportunity?  [:D]



As long as they pay their connection fee... like you. [;)]




Jinger -> RE: What is a troll? (2/9/2012 7:14:44 PM)

I am a most definite troll, most definitely.

I used to be predatory about it, but I changed my ways after someone wrote a very long (and poorly written) poem about how much I hurt their feelings.
And you know? If someone is willing to write a poem about you, you really have to respond correctly.

I would say that most trolls (like me back then) are people who are too weak to bully people in person.

These days I lie in wait for people to come to me, and even then I only troll other trolls.

That's all.




TreasureKY -> RE: What is a troll? (2/9/2012 8:03:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. [;)]


Ahhh... but that begs the question: are they entitled to spout them off to everyone else at every opportunity?  [:D]



As long as they pay their connection fee... like you. [;)]


Me?  Pay for internet???  [sm=rofl.gif]

Besides... I get paid rather handsomely to give my opinion.  Giving it out all the time to every Tom, Dick and Harry on every conceivable subject would take the fun out of work.  [;)]




Hippiekinkster -> RE: What is a troll? (2/9/2012 9:34:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. [;)]


Ahhh... but that begs the question: are they entitled to spout them off to everyone else at every opportunity?  [:D]


http://begthequestion.info/
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/begquest.html




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