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total surrender - 2/13/2012 4:17:08 AM

yestellme

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Master, how do i make total surrender? i know when i do it will be complete and no return. i have been made to and thought i had made it but not quite. i really want to be pushed completely over the top to surrender completely. is this ok or does the Master how to keep me there. thank You

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 4:32:51 AM

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Um. In the porn stories, the sub is so overwhelmed by the Dom's mastery that he or she dissolves into a steaming mass of submissive goo with no limits and no thoughts save how to please him. In real life, things are different.

Briefly, you're asking whose responsibility it is that you've not achieved total surrender - yours or the Dom's. My answer is that it's neither - it's bad writing that made you think it's possible in the first place.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 4:49:00 AM

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In real life, (as inconvenient and messy as it often is) surrender is a process.

It won't be one moment of surrender and then you are Ta DA suddenly completely surrendered; it will be moments of surrender.
If surrender is just a static thing then it won't have any color or depth; that ebb and flow is normal (at least in my happy experience).

Those moments create something amazing.

You haven't failed and neither has he, but if he makes it seem like it's something you aren't achieving then perhaps he is failing you in his explanation.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 4:51:16 AM

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I believe one never knows how far he/she can go because there is no way of telling how far to go There is no "line" or set values.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 5:18:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Buzzzz

I believe one never knows how far he/she can go because there is no way of telling how far to go There is no "line" or set values.

That too has been true for me.
When I met my Master here over 3 years ago; I certainly had no concept of what surrender would be like... and when it happened again at a deeper level, and again... .

There is no right or wrong to this.

And if you have never done it before... for me, it has been true that it gets better with practice; that is part of the process I mentioned.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 5:30:49 AM

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OP - the other posters have said what I believe. You don't know the depth of your surrender until you experience it. I thought I'd surrendered totally to my Master, then 6 months later I took stock again and I was shocked to realise how much further I'd come, and how much further I could go.

I don't know if this is semantics or not, but for me it wasn't about him pushing me to surrender further, it was about inspiring me to freely surrender.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 8:33:30 AM

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Who are you asking? These people arnt your Master - do you even know what youre talking about?

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 1:46:46 PM

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It probably took me years of us living together before I could get to that point. And as everyone else said, you don't stay there.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 3:36:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Welcome to collarme!

Um. In the porn stories, the sub is so overwhelmed by the Dom's mastery that he or she dissolves into a steaming mass of submissive goo with no limits and no thoughts save how to please him. In real life, things are different.

Briefly, you're asking whose responsibility it is that you've not achieved total surrender - yours or the Dom's. My answer is that it's neither - it's bad writing that made you think it's possible in the first place.

Yup... in real life when he pulls out the bullwhip for the first time she piddles on herself. That's a whole different kinda' wet between the legs than in the porn stories.

As far as surrender goes, I lean towards the opinion that is the surrenderer's responsibility because it was their choice. Even in war, not all surrender to overwhelming circumstances. Some fight to death.

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RE: total surrender - 2/13/2012 3:52:58 PM

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The reality is whatever you agree to. It's a relationship...

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RE: total surrender - 2/15/2012 4:45:48 AM

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I am about to enter into a situation of once again, after 16 years, of becoming truly owned property. I am an older male (48), and the Master already has a female alpha slave. I would be in a position of total subgigation to both. I know going into this that this is the last stage for me. I will be treated as an owned thing, no regular commerce between myself and the two of them except to obey their commands and fulfill their needs. I have thought long and hard about this and am comfortable with the fact that this is what I need to fulfill myself. I want to lose myself and become a total subsumed entity. Plans are in the works for taking myself totally off the grid, with no trail left behind.

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RE: total surrender - 2/15/2012 6:58:38 AM

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Depends on who your master turns out to be.

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