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RE: Myrhh - 2/18/2012 7:28:55 PM

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Opportunistic infections are secondary infections: they use the opportunity provided by the herpes outbreak to start proliferating themselves.

I most likely have herpes simplex type I. My immune system is compromised, so I am extremely self contagious and my body fights a losing trench war daily. I did not say it nearly killed me, though it could have (and this past week was especially hard on me; Monday and Tuesday I was incapacitated and spent all day in bed). I 'died' by Divine intervention about eight years before I contracted the virus.

Look here for a simple rule of thumb: If someone died because he was hit by a car when crossing the street, or because he had an argument with a lion or bear, there is almost no reason to suspect that he died because of a herpes virus - as long as it was not suicide. If someone died because of a rabies virus or an ebola virous or because of an anthrax bacterium or any other disease causing agent, there is no reason to suspect that he died because of a herpes virus. However, if the previous causes are not present, nor did the person die because of truly old age (over ninety years), then one has to suspect a herpes virus as the cause of death. Idem for just about any disease that has no known specific virus or bacterium causing it (diabetes II excluded).

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RE: Myrhh - 2/18/2012 8:13:50 PM

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opportunistic infection
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An infection by a microorganism that normally does not cause disease but becomes pathogenic when the body's immune system is impaired and unable to fight off infection.

Have you tried antiviral drugs such as acyclovir?

I haven't heard of herpes simplex1 making people bed ridden.

How do you know that is what it is since your symptoms seem to be so atypical?

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RE: Myrhh - 2/18/2012 8:39:33 PM

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opportunistic infection
n.
An infection by a microorganism that normally does not cause disease but becomes pathogenic when the body's immune system is impaired and unable to fight off infection.

That is an infection, not an opportunistic infection.

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Have you tried antiviral drugs such as acyclovir?

Yes, they work. It is extremely tough to convince a physician to prescribe them to me, though. They refuse to accept that my immune system is impaired. They are unaware of the severity of my case. I have had two tests for the virus. The first one was a false negative - or the idiot who took the sample botched the job. I had to put in an extreme effort to convince my physician to let me have another test. The same guy took the sample and was so stupid to purposely also touch non-infected parts of my lower lip with the contaminated sample swab. That second test was a positive. Next my physician started cleaning his case files and deleted the report of the positive test. So I rely on pills given to me by a friend (those pills are gone now) and primarily on my diet and on a herbal extract.

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I haven't heard of herpes simplex1 making people bed ridden.

How do you know that is what it is since your symptoms seem to be so atypical?

My symptoms are not atypical at all. Just take any bunch of chronically ill people and most likely their problems are caused by a herpes virus. All hospitals are full with such people.

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RE: Myrhh - 2/19/2012 1:49:46 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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opportunistic infection
n.
An infection by a microorganism that normally does not cause disease but becomes pathogenic when the body's immune system is impaired and unable to fight off infection.

That is an infection, not an opportunistic infection.

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Have you tried antiviral drugs such as acyclovir?

Yes, they work. It is extremely tough to convince a physician to prescribe them to me, though. They refuse to accept that my immune system is impaired. They are unaware of the severity of my case. I have had two tests for the virus. The first one was a false negative - or the idiot who took the sample botched the job. I had to put in an extreme effort to convince my physician to let me have another test. The same guy took the sample and was so stupid to purposely also touch non-infected parts of my lower lip with the contaminated sample swab. That second test was a positive. Next my physician started cleaning his case files and deleted the report of the positive test. So I rely on pills given to me by a friend (those pills are gone now) and primarily on my diet and on a herbal extract.

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I haven't heard of herpes simplex1 making people bed ridden.

How do you know that is what it is since your symptoms seem to be so atypical?

My symptoms are not atypical at all. Just take any bunch of chronically ill people and most likely their problems are caused by a herpes virus. All hospitals are full with such people.

opportunistic infection
n.
An infection by a microorganism that normally does not cause disease but becomes pathogenic when the body's immune system is impaired and unable to fight off infection.

Rule, that IS the actual, medical definition of an opportunistic infection.

As for your assertion that "chronic illness" is caused by herpes viruses and that the hospital is filled with such people, I know that is something you believe.
I think you are wrong but instead of continuing to go off topic on the thread and having the moderators get unhappy, I think we will have to agree to disagree.

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RE: Myrhh - 2/19/2012 4:47:10 PM

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Essentially, you have self diagnosed yourself with a herpes virus, completely lack any certifiable knowledge other than your opinion to prove your point. The only "certifiable" credential you have is that you have a screw loose.

I have no need to answer your question, because it is completely irrelevant to the subject at hand, and my personal health issues are none of your business. The reality is I could have posted asking for natural cures to constipation and you would have said it was caused by herpes based on your previous comments.

While I understand that a person can not really help being ignorant and uninformed, it does not mean that when they are also egotistical and try to ram their presumed knowledge down people's throats, I need to sit by and take it.

Now do you have any presumed knowledge about Myrhh? If not, please start yourself a thread about how everything that ails us is caused by herpes or shut the fuck up.

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RE: Myrhh - 2/19/2012 5:16:15 PM

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quote:

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While I understand that a person can not really help being ignorant and uninformed

Some day you will eat those words.

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Now do you have any presumed knowledge about Myrhh?

Sure: I googled it when you started this thread and lo and behold: it is active against herpes - and quite effective too, it seems.

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RE: Myrhh - 2/22/2012 4:58:07 AM

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I could have posted asking for natural cures to constipation and you would have said it was caused by herpes based on your previous comments.

Indeed, it often is.

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RE: Myrhh - 2/22/2012 6:31:24 AM

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I could have posted asking for natural cures to constipation and you would have said it was caused by herpes based on your previous comments.

Indeed, it often is.

What about stupidity?

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RE: Myrhh - 2/22/2012 7:23:16 AM

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Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain.

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RE: Myrhh - 2/22/2012 7:49:28 AM

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Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain.
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Wouldn't the herpes win in a duel with gods?

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RE: Myrhh - 2/22/2012 8:05:04 AM

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I suggest that you open a new thread on the subject in Politics & Religion.

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