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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/23/2012 9:34:03 PM   
jennileigh8182


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A potential complication for you: you list yourself as a dom here, but when you send you charmingly condescending email to me, you're colored as a sub. i don't even bother to reply to sub men, usually, because they aren't what i'm looking for.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 12:43:08 AM   
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Eh, like I said before, I agree with the OP that it seems rather difficult to get a response, though I'm pretty sure my messages are written quite differently.
I've gotten maybe 4 responses, the first 2 I discovered were bots trying to con me into signing up on a premium site and the second 2 replied in pretty much the same manner so I just deleted them

Well, I did get 2 messages out of nowhere, the first one made me go "No, just... no" and the second was from a woman in NewYork, a bit out of my range

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 6:59:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CyrusKell

Eh, like I said before, I agree with the OP that it seems rather difficult to get a response, though I'm pretty sure my messages are written quite differently.
I've gotten maybe 4 responses, the first 2 I discovered were bots trying to con me into signing up on a premium site and the second 2 replied in pretty much the same manner so I just deleted them

Well, I did get 2 messages out of nowhere, the first one made me go "No, just... no" and the second was from a woman in NewYork, a bit out of my range


Your profile is focusing on the sexual aspects.
Women like to be treated as women and not sexual objects; that is the same mistake the OP made, btw.
What are your vanilla interests?

The Man who became my Master wrote to me within a day or 2 of joining this site.
He didn't even have a profile written yet.
His cmails engaged me because they asked me interesting questions based on things He noticed in my profile.
My answers led to more thoughtful and interesting questions which made me want to know more about the man who wrote them.

When he did write his profile it had humor in it.
It explained what he wanted in a relationship; not in a scenario.

I met with him for lunch about a month after that initial contact.
I have been with Him for over 3 yrs.
(The story of us is in my sigline)


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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:19:05 AM   
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I love the thought that we, women subs, are somehow OBLIGATED to answer mail we get from the multitudes of Dom men on this site. I don't care what the message says, if I don't feel like responding I won't. Just because you are Dom and I am sub, does not mean I have to answer you just because you messaged me. Or should I feel speshul because you decided to take time out of your day to grace me with a message? Come on now. Stop it.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:21:42 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dVt11UZ0uA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54-QHEZN6E

It has gotta be for one of the two reasons..

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:28:28 AM   
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damn you, Ron. Now I have postman stuck in my head.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:31:00 AM   
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You're gonna have my dick stuck in your mouth one of these days, snerka.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:39:27 AM   
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I keep telling you. Come south.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 12:57:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
Your profile is focusing on the sexual aspects.
Women like to be treated as women and not sexual objects; that is the same mistake the OP made, btw.
What are your vanilla interests?

That's mostly because I stopped giving a damn about trying to message anyone
Profile had little info but a good sized list of interests - no replies
Profile had lots of info, interests, what a first date/meeting might be like, etc, etc - no replies
I figured screw it, just put up the bits I have there now and leave it
Every message has been some form of a nice, friendly "hey, would you like to chat more?" or "What brings you to the site?", etc

I'm probably just going to wipe out my profile and lurk for a while

quote:

ORIGINAL: tameeks

I love the thought that we, women subs, are somehow OBLIGATED to answer mail we get from the multitudes of Dom men on this site. I don't care what the message says, if I don't feel like responding I won't. Just because you are Dom and I am sub, does not mean I have to answer you just because you messaged me. Or should I feel speshul because you decided to take time out of your day to grace me with a message? Come on now. Stop it.
Personally I think it's at least a common courtesy to respond, even if all the response is is "No thank you"

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 1:12:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I keep telling you. Come south.


Helpful translation, Ron - if you talk about her sucking you and she says to come south, that narrows it down to two places.


quote:

ORIGINAL: tameeks

I love the thought that we, women subs, are somehow OBLIGATED to answer mail we get from the multitudes of Dom men on this site.


Just wanted to say that I have at least a 95% response rate from people who know me from the forums, and less than 5% for people who don't. So if I didn't have a buncha posts here, I'd expect less than 5% response. It doesn't matter what I may feel the universe owes me, expect less than 5%.

Of course, if I used "Nice tits!" or "Kneel to me, bitch!" for my opening line, then it would be a lot less than 5%.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 1:38:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CyrusKell


quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
Your profile is focusing on the sexual aspects.
Women like to be treated as women and not sexual objects; that is the same mistake the OP made, btw.
What are your vanilla interests?

That's mostly because I stopped giving a damn about trying to message anyone
Profile had little info but a good sized list of interests - no replies
Profile had lots of info, interests, what a first date/meeting might be like, etc, etc - no replies
I figured screw it, just put up the bits I have there now and leave it
Every message has been some form of a nice, friendly "hey, would you like to chat more?" or "What brings you to the site?", etc

I'm probably just going to wipe out my profile and lurk for a while



We get messages like that all the time.

What interested me in the messages from my Master was that He asked me thoughtful, interesting questions.
There was no, hey, would you like to chat?, and if there was a :what brings you to this site" question, it was framed in a interesting way.
Remember, He had a blank profile when He first made contact with me.
I got to know Him primarily through our cmail dialogues.
His questions and especially the thought He put into them made me want to know more about Him.




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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 1:46:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CyrusKell
Personally I think it's at least a common courtesy to respond, even if all the response is is "No thank you"


My experience is that one in ten 'no thank you's garnered nasty comments in return. How many times do you think we ought to accept being told 'your(sic) too fat to fuck' before we stop replying? The death threats and stalking are even worse.

Men outnumber women here at least ten to one. If your first email, and your profile, don't attract us at first glance, you won't get a second look. Your rant about people not writing to ask you things is like ranting that you haven't won the lottery when you don't buy a ticket.

Beyond that a profile that says you don't know what you want re short or long term, re bondage y/n, doesn't appear dominant.

You never get a second chance to make a first impression and you have chosen to make the worst possible first impression. Your choice and the consequences are a result of your choice.


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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 2:14:29 PM   
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I can't believe this train wreck of a thread is still on going.

Female subs don't respond to YOU, OP, you really do need to get that (though my bookie says the odds are slim to none).

First, that naked bod you are so very proud of is a major turnoff to me, and would have been 30 years ago when I was a young comely, sexy slut.

Why? Because it screams overly obsessed with self, and that is just not attractive.

Then there is the condescending, arrogant, overly confident tone. Yes, you guessed it, not attractive.

Let's end up with your "if you want sweet, you are seeking a BF" comment. From your many posts on this forum, you do not come across as at all kind. Caring and compassion in the dominant personality is a huge turn on to me, and I would says most emotionally healthy s-types.

Three strikes sparky, can you see why you're out?



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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 2:18:02 PM   
tameeks


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

quote:

ORIGINAL: CyrusKell
Personally I think it's at least a common courtesy to respond, even if all the response is is "No thank you"


My experience is that one in ten 'no thank you's garnered nasty comments in return. How many times do you think we ought to accept being told 'your(sic) too fat to fuck' before we stop replying? The death threats and stalking are even worse
.

Men outnumber women here at least ten to one. If your first email, and your profile, don't attract us at first glance, you won't get a second look. Your rant about people not writing to ask you things is like ranting that you haven't won the lottery when you don't buy a ticket.

Beyond that a profile that says you don't know what you want re short or long term, re bondage y/n, doesn't appear dominant.

You never get a second chance to make a first impression and you have chosen to make the worst possible first impression. Your choice and the consequences are a result of your choice.



I agree with this, esp the bolded part above. What I've seen from my own messages, as well as those that I've seen shared elsewhere, men around these parts don't take well to rejection. Even when it's a polite "no thank you".

I stand by what I said before, and if you (general you) want to continue to expect people to respond to you then you'll continually be let down.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 2:35:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CyrusKell


[snip] Personally I think [snip]


You'll notice I took out every word in your post except for three of them. Don't you find in life that you're much happier when you don't expect the rest of the world to conform to your views? There are so many areas for disappointment when you're invested in thinking that things in the world proceed according to what you think is acceptable. Not being snarky, just using common sense.

This is such a common issue on this site....men writing to women and not getting a response at all or not getting a favorable one. There have been many threads posted on it, if you'd like to know more about the reasons of why that happens then search for the threads and educate yourself. It's easy to keep thinking the earth is flat unless you put in some effort to find out differently. For the most part it happens that answers of any kind are rare on here because men write to women ignoring what the women are seeking as far as location, age, etc, or that because so many men retaliate when women do reject them, that women have stopped answering at all. As another poster here suggested, if it frustrates you not to get a reply, please feel free to lecture your fellow man in helping to make things this way.



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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 4:39:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt


First, that naked bod you are so very proud of is a major turnoff to me, and would have been 30 years ago when I was a young comely, sexy slut.

Why? Because it screams overly obsessed with self, and that is just not attractive.

Then there is the condescending, arrogant, overly confident tone. Yes, you guessed it, not attractive.


You forgot bigoted and shallow.


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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 7:53:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko
Older women appreciate physique, as well. Mmm - remember those Calvin Klein ads with Mark Wahlberg? (Not you, Aderious. You're way too macho. I'm talking to the women, here.)

<snipped>

They wore underpants, or teaingly unbuttoned and unbuckled blue jeans,  and the junk wasn't out front on the camera, obviously it's been awhile for you too.

Now wouldn't all you women agree that would be better, and somewhat of a compromise?

I suggest this young man go see how peonforher "does" it........

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:30:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: poise


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious
And all I'm saying is that by virtue of being 1) male and 2) hetero and 3) young, I and anyone
else
who fits that criteria will NOT have any success with finding subs on this site.


You really can't speak for the other young hetero males on this site, Arderious.
And since this is about YOU, let's work on a possible resolution, yes?

Since you are still not getting the results you are hoping for, don't you think that taking action
and making some changes to your approach (or your images) would benefit you more than
simply complaining to other men about it? Don't you find it odd that, not once in any of your
previous complaints did you get a male responding in agreement to your theory.

I'd like to suggest that you change your main profile image and replace it with something a
little more creative. You can certainly find a friend to take an image of you (with clothes on)
that clearly still show the shape you are in, but not making you look like a science experiment.
Not only would it be more inviting to look at, it would also make you appear more confident
and sure of yourself (by not imposing your nakedness on unsuspecting victims)
Keep those new creative images up for 6 months, and make note of any changes in your
response rate. I have no doubt that you will be surprised at how much better it is for you.



Ah, poise...... why did you go and give away my secret?
This old fart (soon to be 62) has NO problem attracting his demographic.
My profile is short and sweet and I hold it out as a fine example of what "works."

BUT the HUGE difference between this boy <sorry, but that IS one of those 'facts' he keeps mentioning> and DarkSteven or myself is that we have a PRESENCE here.  I got zero, zip, nada, none, no..... interest on profile side for a couple of years.  Slid over here and lurked.  Started with a quiet comment or two.  Didn't take long until I was accused of being a member of the "clique."

My comments appeared in the marquee, and sure enough, ALL kinds of folks started checking my profile.  AND sure enough, I made some GREAT friends (oh, and had some great sex, too.)

I came to this thread ONLY because I saw of the regular posters using the word 'gay' in the marquee.  I have NOT looked at your profile.  Why would I want to after it's been so soundly trashed here?  But, I couldn't resist poise's tempting link to the bodybuilders site.  I figured, "Might see some real eye-candy while I'm there." LOL!

As a "twue" gay, using a rating scale of  1 to 100, you get a solid 8.  Not 80. just 8.  Subtract your attitude and you're in the negatives for my interest.

You are just one more example of young'uns trying to declare themselves D-types.  I have NEVER called myself a Master.  Life is a journy, not a destination and the very best way to take any journey <plane, train, automobile, education, LIFE> is to have a companion.  What kind of companion would you be on a long bus trip?

Until you understand that your attitude is driving away EVERY body that might even consider riding a bus with you, you will NEVER find any kind of partner here.

Damn!  I said "Self, you know better than to waste any key-strokes on him," and DAMN!  here I am, trying to help another un-grateful, you-can't-teach-me-anything, asshole.

BEST ADVICE:  Ask for a refund and try a fuck-me-now site.  At least you won't confuse the gays since there are separate ones for straights and gays.  .........

WATCH IT, FOLKS!  NO coffee for next line......













If you want to know the gay sites, message me on the other side and I'll give you a list.




<edited for one teeny typo>





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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:44:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aderious

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
Trolls are a unique class of internet persona though. They live for attention and when they get negative attention, that's a win in their mind. The more they are fed, the more they eat and the worse they get. The odds that anyone who was here through the last infestation doesn't recognize what's going on with the new infestation is pretty much slim to none.


Oh, I fooled plenty of you.


Bob......?    Is that you?   Please check in with Alpha, 'K?
We all - really - we ALL worry about you.

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RE: Female subs don't respond to messages on this site - 2/24/2012 8:47:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious

quote:

"Luck
quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I'm going to watch episode 3 of "Luck" (I haven't yet made up my mind about the series) and then read "Altered Carbon" - I'm much better at book recommendations than film.


Never heard of it but I'll look into it. HBO puts out some fine productions which celebrate patriarchy and exemplify masculine virtues. Oz, Rome, Game of Thrones...

Talk about your "gay" flicks..........

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