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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/28/2012 11:35:25 PM

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Call me crazy but the girl I choose to hang with would be able to handle the stress in their life without coming to me every day and saying fixit.

I guess you can call me crazy too.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/29/2012 1:01:15 AM

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my sub harrassed by another master's sub

Seems like a whole bunch of teenage melodrama so I'm just gonna give the simple answer to the subject title.

If my sub is getting harassed by *anyone*, then damn straight I'm gonna get involved. It'll be polite and maybe even passive - AT FIRST - as long as that's sufficient to resolve the problem.

One thing I won't tolerate of my girl is her being stressed and distracted by outside influences - because that affects her inside the relationship, making her problem mine!

Focus.

Yer kidding right? ppl are affected by outside stresses all the time job, family friends the list goes on. Call me crazy but the girl I choose to hang with would be able to handle the stress in their life without coming to me every day and saying fixit.

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My profile reflects just that.

"any problems with me, please, let me know. his expectations of me include knowing when to involve him and when to handle my own problems."

If it were a dominant man, he might get involved if I could not handle it.. and I would surely try first.

Another woman/sub? lol... bring it on!

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/29/2012 2:06:19 AM

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my sub harrassed by another master's sub

Seems like a whole bunch of teenage melodrama so I'm just gonna give the simple answer to the subject title.

If my sub is getting harassed by *anyone*, then damn straight I'm gonna get involved. It'll be polite and maybe even passive - AT FIRST - as long as that's sufficient to resolve the problem.

One thing I won't tolerate of my girl is her being stressed and distracted by outside influences - because that affects her inside the relationship, making her problem mine!

Focus.

Yer kidding right? ppl are affected by outside stresses all the time job, family friends the list goes on. Call me crazy but the girl I choose to hang with would be able to handle the stress in their life without coming to me every day and saying fixit.

I'm talking about stress - the kind of shit that distracts and upsets.

The former is defined by the latter; hardly the "everyday" stuff.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/29/2012 2:42:34 PM

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my sub harrassed by another master's sub

Seems like a whole bunch of teenage melodrama so I'm just gonna give the simple answer to the subject title.

If my sub is getting harassed by *anyone*, then damn straight I'm gonna get involved. It'll be polite and maybe even passive - AT FIRST - as long as that's sufficient to resolve the problem.

One thing I won't tolerate of my girl is her being stressed and distracted by outside influences - because that affects her inside the relationship, making her problem mine!

Focus.

Yer kidding right? ppl are affected by outside stresses all the time job, family friends the list goes on. Call me crazy but the girl I choose to hang with would be able to handle the stress in their life without coming to me every day and saying fixit.

BadOne

My profile reflects just that.

"any problems with me, please, let me know. his expectations of me include knowing when to involve him and when to handle my own problems."

If it were a dominant man, he might get involved if I could not handle it.. and I would surely try first.

Another woman/sub? lol... bring it on!

Sic em tazzy.... good girl

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/29/2012 4:14:43 PM

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Being a sub doesnt mean not having a backbone.

She needs to tell her to take a hike and if she wont, tell her ro meet her after school at the playground chickie. lol

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/1/2012 1:32:39 PM

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Yer kidding right? ppl are affected by outside stresses all the time job, family friends the list goes on. Call me crazy but the girl I choose to hang with would be able to handle the stress in their life without coming to me every day and saying fixit.

My profile reflects just that.

"any problems with me, please, let me know. his expectations of me include knowing when to involve him and when to handle my own problems."

If it were a dominant man, he might get involved if I could not handle it.. and I would surely try first.

Another woman/sub? lol... bring it on!

Ok, obviously I'm not getting something here....

I originally passed on your post because despite you apparently siding with SailingBum in disagreeing with me, you then pretty much said what I said, anyway. Relevant phrase - "he might get involved if I could not handle it". Doesn't hafta be a "dominant man" (and there's no "might") but *anyone* she's not handling herself - which would naturally imply she's tried first.

But since SailingBum is typically about throw-away sound bytes rather than adult discussion and has since wimped out and palmed-off onto you, I'm asking.... What's his point - that you endorsed?

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/1/2012 3:03:49 PM

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OP: there is no such thing as overly protective. There is only ineffective means of showing it.
Interfering yourself just makes things murky. Enabling your friend / sub to learn how to better deal with it herself will boost her confidence and your confidence in her.
Do remember everyone has a right to hit their own heads against a brick wall a few times in their live. Thats how people learn.

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Seemingly random or irrational acts are always obeying the basic laws of physics: enthropy is enhanced. Beyond that, i got no clue either.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/1/2012 3:36:24 PM

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Yer kidding right? ppl are affected by outside stresses all the time job, family friends the list goes on. Call me crazy but the girl I choose to hang with would be able to handle the stress in their life without coming to me every day and saying fixit.

My profile reflects just that.

"any problems with me, please, let me know. his expectations of me include knowing when to involve him and when to handle my own problems."

If it were a dominant man, he might get involved if I could not handle it.. and I would surely try first.

Another woman/sub? lol... bring it on!

Ok, obviously I'm not getting something here....

I originally passed on your post because despite you apparently siding with SailingBum in disagreeing with me, you then pretty much said what I said, anyway. Relevant phrase - "he might get involved if I could not handle it". Doesn't hafta be a "dominant man" (and there's no "might") but *anyone* she's not handling herself - which would naturally imply she's tried first.

But since SailingBum is typically about throw-away sound bytes rather than adult discussion and has since wimped out and palmed-off onto you, I'm asking.... What's his point - that you endorsed?

Focus.

Ill type S L O W E R it might help you understand tazzy last words in her post that I bolded that basically said Another women giving me grief I can handle it, bring it on were her exact words. I see that your from down under and we are separated by a common language. In the English speaking countries what tazzy said means " I can take that bitch out"

My point was/is simple and clear what part of it don't you understand. The OP is involved in some lame drama where no one needs to get involved. The billy badass dom <that would be YOU all jumping bad and talking lotto shit and mumbling > can sit this one out.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 1:26:14 AM

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Ill type S L O W E R it might help you understand tazzy last words in her post that I bolded that basically said Another women giving me grief I can handle it, bring it on were her exact words. I see that your from down under and we are separated by a common language. In the English speaking countries what tazzy said means " I can take that bitch out"

My point was/is simple and clear what part of it don't you understand. The OP is involved in some lame drama where no one needs to get involved. The billy badass dom <that would be YOU all jumping bad and talking lotto shit and mumbling > can sit this one out.

While I can decipher the words you've used, pretty sure that English isn't a common *language* between us.

My apologies for daring you to actually discuss like a grownup and be assured I'll stick to ignoring your bad ass fluff from here on. lol

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 2:02:02 AM

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Gonna have to come down with Focus on this one. You're her protector, and if she has tried to deal with this girl and the girl isn't behaving herself, it's time for you to make things right. Go to her master and explain that she needs to fuck off, and if her master decides to be a tosspot go to her directly and make it clear that your sub is owned and protected and her behavior is out of line. If all else fails there is always legal recourse, though I'm always loathe to encourage involving the cops in ANYTHING. It's not something we can decide for you, because we don't know the people involved, but I suspect that you'll manage to piece it together for yourself.

At the end of the day all of the rhetoric about how she's her own person and can do it herself is all well and good, but the truth of the matter is that she's yours and it is your job to take care of her when she needs it. If your judgment is telling you that she needs it now, then you have that responsibility.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 2:54:38 AM

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Gonna have to come down with Focus on this one. You're her protector, and if she has tried to deal with this girl and the girl isn't behaving herself, it's time for you to make things right. Go to her master and explain that she needs to fuck off, and if her master decides to be a tosspot go to her directly and make it clear that your sub is owned and protected and her behavior is out of line. If all else fails there is always legal recourse, though I'm always loathe to encourage involving the cops in ANYTHING. It's not something we can decide for you, because we don't know the people involved, but I suspect that you'll manage to piece it together for yourself.

At the end of the day all of the rhetoric about how she's her own person and can do it herself is all well and good, but the truth of the matter is that she's yours and it is your job to take care of her when she needs it. If your judgment is telling you that she needs it now, then you have that responsibility.

Very well said. I agree 100%.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 3:50:55 AM

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Gonna have to come down with Focus on this one. You're her protector, and if she has tried to deal with this girl and the girl isn't behaving herself, it's time for you to make things right. Go to her master and explain that she needs to fuck off, and if her master decides to be a tosspot go to her directly and make it clear that your sub is owned and protected and her behavior is out of line. If all else fails there is always legal recourse, though I'm always loathe to encourage involving the cops in ANYTHING. It's not something we can decide for you, because we don't know the people involved, but I suspect that you'll manage to piece it together for yourself.

At the end of the day all of the rhetoric about how she's her own person and can do it herself is all well and good, but the truth of the matter is that she's yours and it is your job to take care of her when she needs it. If your judgment is telling you that she needs it now, then you have that responsibility.

Btw I dont have a issue with focus we just didnt agree sorta i guess. You on the other hand are pretty much uh trying to be nice .... so lets take your concept of the billy bad ass dom getting involved.

Billy bad ass dom says to bad girl sub "Leave my bitch alone"

bad girl sub says "Fuck Off"

Billy bad ass goes to bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever say to him... "Your bitch is outta line"

bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever Proceeds to beat your sorry ass.

So Billy Bad ass whatcha gonna do now??? Pull out your 38 and bust a cap in his ass?

So know maybe you see why your idea is so stupid.

You are taking a situation from 2 people to 4 and making matters worse. Cuz I tell you hear and now...
If you were to come to me and say to me that my girl is "outta line"
The very first words out of my mouth would be. "Who in the hell do you think your talking to? "That is my bitch and she does what I tell her to do. You Billy Bad ass can kiss my ASS"

Furthermore Who the Fuck are you coming to me and say shit about my bitch??? My finger pointing into your chest. "So Billy Bad ass What the FUCK are you gonna do?"

So get back to me and lemme know how interfering helps. Cuz truly that is pretty much how I would react to some punk trying to tell me my bitch is outta line.
The bottom line is. The Only time my girl is out of line, Is when I tell her she is.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 7:24:42 AM

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Billy bad ass dom says to bad girl sub "Leave my bitch alone"

bad girl sub says "Fuck Off"

Billy bad ass goes to bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever say to him... "Your bitch is outta line"

bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever Proceeds to beat your sorry ass.

So Billy Bad ass whatcha gonna do now??? Pull out your 38 and bust a cap in his ass?

So now maybe you see why your idea is so stupid.

You are taking a situation from 2 people to 4 and making matters worse.

I rarely agree with SB, but I do in this case.

The only thing he left out was the possibility that the other sub would report you to the authorities for threatening/harassing her. Whether it's true or not, you're still the big bad man.

Having the D step in to try to solve the issue is like high school "My boyfriend will beat you up!".

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 8:18:54 AM

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Billy bad ass dom says to bad girl sub "Leave my bitch alone"

bad girl sub says "Fuck Off"

Billy bad ass goes to bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever say to him... "Your bitch is outta line"

bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever Proceeds to beat your sorry ass.

So Billy Bad ass whatcha gonna do now??? Pull out your 38 and bust a cap in his ass?

So now maybe you see why your idea is so stupid.

You are taking a situation from 2 people to 4 and making matters worse.

I rarely agree with SB, but I do in this case.

The only thing he left out was the possibility that the other sub would report you to the authorities for threatening/harassing her. Whether it's true or not, you're still the big bad man.

Having the D step in to try to solve the issue is like high school "My boyfriend will beat you up!".

It's all good I don't think I've ever agreed with you. Like Ive said all along WTF am I back in HS???

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 11:09:59 AM

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This.
The whole thing just seems very silly to me. If this was at a club, or an event, etc, I can see you speaking to the other Master, but in a school situation? I would be concerned about a grown woman not being able to tell the other chick to GTFO.

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You are taking a situation from 2 people to 4 and making matters worse.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 11:12:13 AM

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I read this and I want to thank you for the laughter...I understand the sincerity, the newness, et al... still, I want to thank you for making me laugh this morning.

I do hate playground bullies...

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 11:32:16 AM

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...and I'd like to fix this without getting either of them in trouble at school.

Easy peasy.

Does your sub obey you? If so, you can fix this whole thing in about 5 seconds. Command her to simply ignore the other girl in a socially courteous way.... you know... the ol' water off the back of a duck thing.

Why do I somehow guess that that will be a real test of your girl's obedience.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 1:38:55 PM

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I read this and I want to thank you for the laughter...I understand the sincerity, the newness, et al... still, I want to thank you for making me laugh this morning.

I do hate playground bullies...

That's pretty much why I stick around. I am way past taking "this" and life in general to seriously. None of us are getting outta here alive

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 1:54:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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Billy bad ass dom says to bad girl sub "Leave my bitch alone"

bad girl sub says "Fuck Off"

Billy bad ass goes to bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever say to him... "Your bitch is outta line"

bad girls dom/master/Bf/Whatfuckingever Proceeds to beat your sorry ass.

So Billy Bad ass whatcha gonna do now??? Pull out your 38 and bust a cap in his ass?

So now maybe you see why your idea is so stupid.

You are taking a situation from 2 people to 4 and making matters worse.

I rarely agree with SB, but I do in this case.

The only thing he left out was the possibility that the other sub would report you to the authorities for threatening/harassing her. Whether it's true or not, you're still the big bad man.

Having the D step in to try to solve the issue is like high school "My boyfriend will beat you up!".

Whoa, I sorta get SailingBum's signature childish/badass/gangsta bullshit and even the part where guns are America's inevitable problem solver but do *you* of all people seriously think this is the likely recourse in a world of grownups?

In other parts of the world, violence is the last resort; that mature adults have all kinds of options in dealing with harassment.

Bottom line is taking responsibility. And you've been reading SB's posts as long as I have - not exactly a poster boy for it, eh? Insightful girl that you usually are, here you're taking cues from a middle-aged white guy trying to talk like a teenage black rapper, for cryin' out loud.... That's comedy, not philosophy.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 3/2/2012 1:55:28 PM

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I read this and I want to thank you for the laughter...I understand the sincerity, the newness, et al... still, I want to thank you for making me laugh this morning.

I do hate playground bullies...

That's pretty much why I stick around. I am way past taking "this" and life in general to seriously. None of us are getting outta here alive

BadOne