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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 8:12:12 AM   
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this thread made me really sad.


Me too.



Me, as well.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 8:24:20 AM   
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I just read the whole thread, and yes, now I am sad. The OP's parents must be feeling pretty sad about their daughter living in such self imposed squalor on their property. OP you need to improve your housekeeping, if for no other reason, then because you owe them a duty not to damage their property. The mess you describe is going to attract vermin. If "daddy" is really the problem, then maybe he needs to go. You are hurting more than the two of you. If hiring a maid is what needs to be done, then fucking do it.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 8:26:46 AM   
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Some people are very very fortunate they are not MY children. They would be OUT on their ASS, learning to live like ADULTS instead of petulant, spoilt, overgrown children.

As for the OP, life is gonna really suck when mom and dad die.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 8:36:25 AM   
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Some people are very very fortunate they are not MY children. They would be OUT on their ASS, learning to live like ADULTS instead of petulant, spoilt, overgrown children.

As for the OP, life is gonna really suck when mom and dad die.



This.

All excuses aside, it's an extremely disrespectful way to treat your parents' home.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 8:48:32 AM   
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It is hard to see the light of day s when it's always dark or gloomy, and I'm used to the mess and chaos, but i am working to break out of it. We did a couple of hours of cleaning yesterday, and I am going to do some today, and hopefully get some done tomorow with Daddy too, and it already looks better, it's not anywhere near perfect or as nice as it could be, but i am happy with " it looks better" as long as it continues to look better and better on a regular basis.


Great start - keep up the good work! You've inspired me and I even cleaned my oven this AM!




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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 9:56:34 AM   
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Charles. You were not here for the toothpaste thread, were you.


No, missed it.

Whisper my name in that tone of voice in my ear again, please .

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 1:58:57 PM   
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Some people are very very fortunate they are not MY children. They would be OUT on their ASS, learning to live like ADULTS instead of petulant, spoilt, overgrown children.

As for the OP, life is gonna really suck when mom and dad die.



This.

All excuses aside, it's an extremely disrespectful way to treat your parents' home.


While that is true, the fact is that the OP suffers from some psycholgical/mental disabilities which attribute to this issue much more than the physical.

Having parents who are aware of the deficiencies, who didn't work on them while she was growing up, and who think that providing her an "independant" living situation on their property is all they need to do is just as sad as the situation itself.

As for the "boyfriend."  Yes, the OP has to conquer her issues before expecting better behavior from him, but her descriptions of him lead one to believe that a serious fear of being alone is what is keeping him around. 

When I realized the extent of my previous roommate's inability to desire to change and fix the problem, I immediately sought alternative housing, since it was his place before I moved in.  If I were in his situation, he wouldn't have knowlingly spilled something and left it more than one time before his shit would have been on the front lawn.

But then I have no fears of living/being alone, and not in a relationship.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 2:13:19 PM   
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That's great:) I washed then pan and dish immediately yesterday. Makes one less this.g I need to tend to later:)
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Great start - keep up the good work! You've inspired me and I even cleaned my oven this AM!





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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 2:22:14 PM   
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I didn't grow up with my parents not entirely. Once I turned 13 I spent the next 7 years a ward of the court in group homes once cps took me away, because my parents were abusing me and I reported it. They had nothing to do with raising me after that and were not aware of my issues outside of my learning disability, which presented itself very early, and the school's solution for that was special ed classes.


I'm not afraid to be alone , despite him bugging me I do love and care for him very much. Id say outside this and the lovelife issue, we are very well matched.
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While that is true, the fact is that the OP suffers from some psycholgical/mental disabilities which attribute to this issue much more than the physical.

Having parents who are aware of the deficiencies, who didn't work on them while she was growing up, and who think that providing her an "independant" living situation on their property is all they need to do is just as sad as the situation itself.

As for the "boyfriend."  Yes, the OP has to conquer her issues before expecting better behavior from him, but her descriptions of him lead one to believe that a serious fear of being alone is what is keeping him around. 




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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 3:11:16 PM   
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I didn't grow up with my parents not entirely. Once I turned 13 I spent the next 7 years a ward of the court in group homes once cps took me away, because my parents were abusing me and I reported it. They had nothing to do with raising me after that and were not aware of my issues outside of my learning disability, which presented itself very early, and the school's solution for that was special ed classes.


I'm not afraid to be alone , despite him bugging me I do love and care for him very much. Id say outside this and the lovelife issue, we are very well matched.
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While that is true, the fact is that the OP suffers from some psycholgical/mental disabilities which attribute to this issue much more than the physical.

Having parents who are aware of the deficiencies, who didn't work on them while she was growing up, and who think that providing her an "independant" living situation on their property is all they need to do is just as sad as the situation itself.

As for the "boyfriend."  Yes, the OP has to conquer her issues before expecting better behavior from him, but her descriptions of him lead one to believe that a serious fear of being alone is what is keeping him around. 





I don't mean this in an insulting way, but your parents are doing the bare minimum to help you, for whatever reason.  In my opinion, group homes are notorious for their inability to teach life skills and then send people on their merry way, woefully ill equipped to handle life's daily needs.  You, my former room mate and others I have come in contact with are prime examples of this.

Being able to pick up after yourself is part of being a grown up, something you admittedly don't want to be all that often (as per your profile).  There is no easy way to make this happen, especially when things have gotten as out of hand as they have.  I am very well aware of how difficult physical pain can make it to get things done.  If my pain levels are at a 5 on any given day, I consider it a "good day."  When having to actually engage in the physical activities necessary to keep my home neat and clutter free, one day of cleaning can result in 2 or more days of severe pain.  But during those 2 days of severe pain, I am not tripping over shit to crawl to the bathroom and it's worth it.

Perhaps you aren't afraid of being alone.  However, "this" situation and your lifelife are two VERY big parts of compatibility in a relationship and they are sorely lacking here, so really the statement of you being "very compatible" is pretty much reaching for the stars.  On the other hand, you want someone to play "daddy" to your little girl, meaning being the more responsible one.  He is so severely depressed, he can't manage to even clean up a spill when it happens, so maybe you are well suited.

At the end of the day, you need to determine what is most important to you.  Is it gaining and maintaining a less cluttered and cleaner living environment?  Is it taking better care of your health?  Learning how to appropriately take care of your daily needs?  Or is it having someone that is there for you at the end of the day, helping you to make messes, encouraging you to purchase things because they are "cute" even though they will sit in a box, bag or on the floor and never be utilized?  Is it being able to use physical pain as an excuse for not doing things that need to get done, until you really can't physically do them because you have, through your own actions (or inactions as it is) gotten yourself confined to a wheelchair and need someone to help you with even the smallest personal task, such as going to the bathroom and cleaning your cooch and butt for you after?

You have no children, no one to be responsible for except for yourself.  It isn't that difficult to do.  If you can't bring yourself to do it, then get into counseling to deal with the issues that are preventing it.  No excuses about how your insurance won't cover it, hospitals have charity care that you can utilize to get the help.  Don't like it that it is once a month?  Tough, if that is all you can get, that is all you can get.  Liked your previous therapist better because she was more available?  Tough.  Your therapist doesn't need to give two shits about you as a person, they are doing their job which does not necessarily mean taking what are no doubt numerous "emergency" calls.

The point is that you either want to do it or you don't.  Nearly everyone here is very patient with you due to your issues (which are more than a learning disability).  Everyone has given you some wonderful suggestions as to how to accomplish your goal.  The next step is yours, but I can assure you that constant excuses WILL and does weigh on people's patience to offer suggestions of help.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 4:50:31 PM   
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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 6:08:06 PM   
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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 7:10:03 PM   
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I can relate to the psychological issues. I have bipolar disorder. To this day, I still have a representative payee even though I've managed to hold down a full time job for more than 3 years (4 years come August 3). And I work with young men who have psychological issues. Most of them are coming out of foster care, groups homes or juvenile detention centers.

If at all possible, avoid paying for a cleaning service. I would suggest you contact your county mental health service provider. If you don't know who that is, then contact the county office of mental health and mental retardation, they will know which service providers get county funding. Every county has an MH/MR office, though I would imagine that some states might have a different name for it--it is a part of the dept. of health though. If you are really lucky, your county mental health agency will be able to provide you with blended case management (that would be somebody who helps you on a regular basis to integrate into the community, keep doctor appointments, etc.) a counselor (which you obviously need) and a psych rehab professional (these are people whose major job is to act as a life skills coach). While many of the activities performed by a BCM (these are usually licensed social workers) and an MPR worker (most of these are not social workers) would overlap, many people find they benefit from both. You might benefit from having a peer specialist, too. A peer specialist is somebody who is a current or former client of the public mental health system who has taken special classes and a certification exam to become a peer specialist. The classes are only 2 weeks long followed by an exam. My county paid for me to take the classes in another county and they paid for my lodging, food and all other expenses. It sounds like you could benefit from all three services. While the BCM and MPR worker provide guidance, tips and knowledge to better your life, a peer specialist will offer support (because he/she has been there/done that) and show you that change is possible.





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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 8:58:01 PM   
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Some people are very very fortunate they are not MY children. They would be OUT on their ASS, learning to live like ADULTS instead of petulant, spoilt, overgrown children.

As for the OP, life is gonna really suck when mom and dad die.


About time.

OP, I work 6 days a week and so does he, but he makes 4 times what I make so I get up at 5:30, make his coffee, pack his lunch and off he goes. Then I take an hour to feed the animals, I have 9 house bunnies that live inside of my house, they are box trained, and the deal was no mess and I could have them, so anyway after the get fed and played with I babygate them for the day into the kitchen, then I spend about an hour cleaning the house. Off to work I go around 10. I get out around 5, come home, start dinner, feed all the creatures again, and then vacuum, wash the floors, start laundry whatever needs to be done. He does nothing housework wise because he makes far more money and his job is way more physically strenuous than mine. We have dinner, then he usually goes into his office and works some more (home office) and I clean up from dinner and do whatever needs to be done.

If "Daddy" wants to be a slob but you don't work at all and he is gone 8 hours a day working....well, it's kind of a suck it up thing, sorry. My man isn't a slob and doesn't make additional messes but like I said it's a matter of who gives what and contributes what. You are home all day, clean the house, end of story. Be an adult.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 9:25:13 PM   
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I'm offering advice I'm sure will be ignored, but being a big fan of Flylady and having often found myself paralyzed by the amount of work that needs to be done....here is what I found to be her most valuable advice: SET THAT TIMER!!! Set your timer for 15 minutes to tackle something that seems unsurmountable, like a pile of laundry or a dirty bathroom. You will be shocked and amazed at the amount that you can accomplish in the 15 minutes if you commit to stay focused for just that short amount of time. Do this consistently, once or twice a day. Make your Daddy do the same...if you can do it, so can he. The next thing you know, things might start looking a little better :)

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 9:34:20 PM   
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Peachgirl fly lady is a great site. I have been grabbing everything I see that don't belong, like junk mail and old clothing magazines, and other out of place things over the course of last 3 days, as I go past aspace and doing what needs done with it.

I threw out the trash from opening mail right away today, instead of leaving it to sit.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 9:47:40 PM   
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I threw out the trash from opening mail right away today, instead of leaving it to sit


Great first step!! Remember, it won't get done all at once, but doing a little bit every day really will help. My advice would be to do the same chores tomorrow that you got done today plus 1 more. And don't get overwhelmed or frustrated if things don't get neat and organized as quickly as you they should. It might take a couple of weeks to get everything done, it might take longer. The idea is to work consistently and often. A little bit goes a long way. That's what I usually tell my clients about almost everything...too bad I have such a hard time taking my own advice usually.





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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 10:45:10 PM   
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To be nice to my mom, i wrapped the cut fruit she had sitting out, put it in the fridge, loaded the pan from tonight's soup with hot water and soap and tomorow i will wash it, and probably do any other dishes out, and i sprayed the stove top with bleach and wiped it down.


Tuesday, whis is tomorrow,or Wednesday I wanna take our kingsize comforters to the launder mat, and get sheets on the bed an clean blankets. On top of cleaning.

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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 11:12:23 PM   
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Cool. But don't work too hard. You have time.


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RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? - 3/26/2012 11:18:29 PM   
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Yup plenty of time , but that was easy and it only took less than 5 minutes to do for her, i would have washed the pan tonight but Daddy just put the medicated cream on my fingers and band aided them, i don't have kitchen gloves, so i didn't wanna get my fingers wet an ruin the cream and bandaids.



I like to try to wash my bowl or what ever right after i eat, i started once a few months ago, i got lazy at one point and stopped, but i'd love it be to become a good habit. even if every one else leaves their dishes to sit till whenever, the dishes i used won't be in that mess.


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Cool. But don't work too hard. You have time.



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To be nice to my mom, i wrapped the cut fruit she had sitting out, put it in the fridge, loaded the pan from tonight's soup with hot water and soap and tomorow i will wash it, and probably do any other dishes out, and i sprayed the stove top with bleach and wiped it down.


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