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Baroana -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 10:25:07 AM)

Question for the OP. The title to this thread contains the words "a potential."

A potential what?




DesFIP -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 11:23:06 AM)

He's married. He won't tell you his real name or affirm his address because he doesn't want you to blow the whistle on him to his wife.

That's the same reason he won't use a credit card with you. Because his wife would see the statements and want to know why he had a hotel room.




MistressEllen444 -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 11:37:18 AM)

Feeling a little bitchy today, ok, more than usual so I will jump in.

So, you are in prime baby-making age range, as a left field question: what if you get pregnant? Might be a bit more to deal with than a tattoo for some guy who you don't really know. Lots of things in life nowadays last longer than a tattoo, and unless specifically wanted, none are a party.

If you had exchanged tests results you would know his name... just saying.




Baroana -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 11:41:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressEllen444

Feeling a little bitchy today, ok, more than usual so I will jump in.

So, you are in prime baby-making age range, as a left field question: what if you get pregnant? Might be a bit more to deal with than a tattoo for some guy who you don't really know. Lots of things in life nowadays last longer than a tattoo, and unless specifically wanted, none are a party.



That's one way to learn his name.




Baroana -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 11:54:06 AM)

Just as a side note, I strongly recommend that in the future you demand both a first and last name before sequestering yourself alone with any date. This goes for the kinky as well as the vanilla.

Did no one ever teach you that you are supposed to tell somebody where you are going and who with? At least leave the information in a conspicuous place in your home, in case it should turn into key evidence.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:01:36 PM)

I fear the OP is the potential. Her has her under consideration or some such BS as a slave. He knows how to dangle that carrot, and she hasn't figured out she's just his mule.

Many years ago, the late, great Janis Joplin wrote a song called "Move Over."

A video of her doing it live:

http://youtu.be/MxdCWdaUv18

Here's some of the lyrics:

"You know that I need a man, but when I ask you to you just tell me, well maybe you can."

and

"I'm tired of your love on the end of a string honey, you expect me to buck like a god damned mule."





DaddySatyr -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:01:59 PM)

I can understand the issue of security but, there's another side to this.

Obviously, a lady has to worry about being physically over-powered and then, all manner of bad shit but, a man also has to worry about the bunny boilers that have been known to make life very ugly.

As kind of a side note; I was born with a last name that is not my last name, now. There's nothing nefarious nor illegal about this. The situation at the time dictated the necessity of a legal name change.

So, my birth certificate doesn't match my drivers' license. Does that, in-and-of-itself make me untrustworthy? No. The name on my drivers' license has been my name since I was 13 years old but, if observed from a position of total mistrust, that would apparently be something of an issue.

I think that's an awfully hard judgement.

Anyway, I'm wondering if this gentleman might have some reason for having (relatively) recently changed his last name and maybe, he just got a bit flustered and went with what was "comfortable" at the time. I never use my birth name as it could be dangerous for me, in certain ways.

All I am trying to say is that this man might have a different last name than the one he was born with for a very legitimate reason.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




DarkSteven -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:07:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I fear the OP is the potential. Her has her under consideration or some such BS as a slave. He knows how to dangle that carrot, and she hasn't figured out she's just his mule.



Her profile says she's owned and collared.




LadyPact -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:28:24 PM)

It's not every day that MP will notice something on My computer and have the kind of reaction that he just did. 

"What do you mean she doesn't even know his name?!!!"

(Sorry, that was just kind of funny to Me.)

Anyway, I just don't get situations like this.  I don't think I've ever had a relationship with anyone (kinky or non) that something like My name didn't come up in the course of a year.  A kinky situation like this where people are more or less 'seeing each other' for that long and never been to the other person's home, just boggles My mind.  Especially a case where somebody can't figure out just exactly why that might be.  A situation where there is talk of a tattoo of a name, but the tattoo-ee hasn't even been to the man's home?  Come on.  I can't imagine how these kind of thought patterns work.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Obviously, a lady has to worry about being physically over-powered and then, all manner of bad shit but, a man also has to worry about the bunny boilers that have been known to make life very ugly.

Just a thought, but if we were talking about that kind of chick here, maybe it would be a good idea to stop having sex with her every week, instead of trying to hide an identity for a year.




DaddySatyr -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:47:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Obviously, a lady has to worry about being physically over-powered and then, all manner of bad shit but, a man also has to worry about the bunny boilers that have been known to make life very ugly.

Just a thought, but if we were talking about that kind of chick here, maybe it would be a good idea to stop having sex with her every week, instead of trying to hide an identity for a year.



I meant in a very general way; that men, also have security concerns in new situations. I did not mean to apply it to this particular situation.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Baroana -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:55:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Obviously, a lady has to worry about being physically over-powered and then, all manner of bad shit but, a man also has to worry about the bunny boilers that have been known to make life very ugly.

Just a thought, but if we were talking about that kind of chick here, maybe it would be a good idea to stop having sex with her every week, instead of trying to hide an identity for a year.



I meant in a very general way; that men, also have security concerns in new situations. I did not mean to apply it to this particular situation.



Peace and comfort,



Michael



Who said you dont'?




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 12:56:29 PM)

My bad I didn't look at her profile.

Okay, now I am confused as all hell, since post #19 the OP said this:


but for me to give myself completely i need full disclosure

She's owned and collared and hasn't given herself completely?

WTF?

Can I say that again, WTF???




DaddySatyr -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:00:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Obviously, a lady has to worry about being physically over-powered and then, all manner of bad shit but, a man also has to worry about the bunny boilers that have been known to make life very ugly.

Just a thought, but if we were talking about that kind of chick here, maybe it would be a good idea to stop having sex with her every week, instead of trying to hide an identity for a year.



I meant in a very general way; that men, also have security concerns in new situations. I did not mean to apply it to this particular situation.



Peace and comfort,



Michael



Who said you dont'?


No one said I don't. The thing is; there may be reasons for his giving two different answers.

While I agree it's pretty absurd to be having sex with someone that you don't trust enough to give them your last name, it is not my place to judge the actions of others unless they are a part of my life. Maybe this guy just has some serious trust issues? I don't know for sure. Maybe he's in Witness Protection. Maybe, he's a fugitive.

Or, maybe, it's just as I proposed earlier and he just recently had his name legally changed and accidentally went with the "old familiar". The point is; I don't know the reason. While I agree with the advice being given to this young lady, on the whole, sometimes, there are other considerations.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Baroana -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:06:02 PM)

While the original post is a bit unintelligible, I believe the issue here is not a changed last name but a withheld last name. She seems to think that he gave her a completely fake last name.




Musicmystery -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:09:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksroommate

hello all [:)]
well kinda in a weird spot i guess, i have been with M for over a year. i have always known or felt the name he gave me as his well wasn't. as we have spent a bit more time i've brought it up a few times loll ok once more but only at that time his last name changed. idk i honestly care for this man just where do i stand if he cannot be honest about who he is? so do you ask for proof? am still unsure what i should do?

Either you are bored and looking for some drama today,
or you are incredible unobservant.

Hard to believe, either way.




DaddySatyr -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:13:38 PM)

More accurately; he gave her two different answers which raised her suspicions and probably rightly so.

That doesn't change my contention that there could be other "legitimate" answers.

One would hope that after a year (even if it is "just sex"), you would get to know something of the person's character. I refer you to Shakespeare.

Having said that, there is of course, a better than average chance that the reason for the secrecy is malignant but there is the off-chance that it isn't.

She's been alone with this guy (ostensibly) 52 times and hasn't come to harm. While the idea of not knowing a last name is troubling, I don't think it weighs as heavily on safety, at this point as it does on honesty and openness.

Maybe the guy's real last name is "Hitler" or "Hess" or "Dahmer" or "Bundy" or ...

Maybe it's something as innocent as "Gingrich" or "Santorum" and some people might apply a stigma to those?



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Baroana -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:15:59 PM)

Ay, stupidity.




DaddySatyr -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:18:00 PM)

Indeed. It is not in short supply in this lifestyle as with any other.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




JanahX -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:20:13 PM)

Yeah - thats kinda what I read it as. If you read everything she wrote, not only does she not know his last name - she doesnt seem to know anything about this guy - except the time and hotel where she is supposed to meet him in.

If I had my guess - she is past the point of asking him anything, in fear of him getting irritated and then leaving her - Shes that desperate to keep him.

Shes just growing out of whatever it is that they have going on. Time to move it on -




LadyHibiscus -> RE: have you ever had a potential prove who they are? (3/24/2012 1:22:20 PM)

The issue isn't personal harm, Michael. Most people are not rapists or murderers.

MANY men are liars, especially when it gets them a dick massage. MANY women are the same, any gender can be unscrupulous.

There's really nothing wrong with being the piece on the side if that's what you signed up for, and are okay with the probability that some stranger would be hurt by your actions.




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