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joether -> RE: Who Wants More Independent State Laws? (3/31/2012 12:42:55 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Mostly, that's because none of the other neocon cheerleaders on here appear to have any problem with Bush shitting on the constitution and using the bill of rights to wipe his arse for the eight years he was in office.
(Congratulations on your new lifestyle, though.)
Why is it you only rail against Bush? Can you not see that Obama isn't actually any better than Bush? Almost all the things the D's railed against Bush for, Obama is still doing. The D's owned Congress for Bush's last 2 years in office. They could have cut funding, or done damn near anything they wanted to stop the money train. Did they? No. They just bitched about it. Then, Obama takes office and the D's get their near-Super Majorities and what happens? Not a whole helluva lot. Has Guantanamo Bay been closed? Uh, nope. Have we stopped torturing? Can't guarantee it, but if we are, the media ain't saying anything (and I don't think we are anyway). We haven't closed the ridiculous spending. Actually, we haven't slowed the increase of spending..lol
The deficits are still huge, and are projected to be that way for years. Revenues are still high (which apparently weren't decimated by the Bush Tax Cuts). It absolutely is the spending. I'm pissed that Bush ran up spending as much as he did. I'm even more pissed at Obama for continuing that because of all the bile and hatred spewed by the D's against Bush's meteoric spending increases.
If we dropped the Bush Era Tax Cuts, and closed up those tax loopholes that allow the very rich to pay less in taxes as a percentage than middle class America, you would see the deficit drain to nothing and *GASP* witness a surplus. The last three years of the Clinton Administration saw a surplus in each year (the final one being the largest). We as a country were making serious headway on eliminating the debt. Within one year of Bush coming to office, that surplus was gone and a deficit was in place for the budget. The debt which was being removed quickly was now rising quickly. This followed every year during the 'good times' of the economy. Towards the end of the Bush Administration, the economy started to explode and go down hill towards a depression. Most industries were in free fall! So yes, Mr. Obama took over the economic problems of this country created by 'fiscal conservatives' who happily voted for McCain (who choose to deal with the failing economy by ignoring it). Plus we as a country got dragged in to Iraq for those 'Massive Stockpiles' of 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'. After blowing $3 Trillion we realize that White House was not truthful with us in any regard. By the time Mr. Obama took office, that war costed us $4 Trillion. Where the hell was the accountibility and responsibility of all those 'fiscal conservatives'? No where on planet Earth!
If the President had listen to Republicans in 2009, this country would have been in a deep depression similar to 1929. But he decided on a course of action which was not popular. He could have taken the popular idea, and witness another depression (to whom the Republicans would happily blame the whole thing on him). So the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act was pushed through Congress. Anyone that actually read it (that's about 8% of the nation) would understand what the bill was set up to do: Stop the Free Fall. Actually it had the added effect of not just stopping the free fall, or leveling out industries but actually putting some on the road to recovery. There are plenty of charts on the web that show how the Bush Administration lose jobs at a staggering rate. Did any conservatives blame him for that? Nope! When jobs were being lost under Obama's administration, did those same conservative blame him? HELLYA! The truth here, is that conservatives don't hold their own elected officals to even 1/100th the responsibility and accountibility as they rail at President Obama on an hourly basis! So each proceeding quarter found the amount of jobs lost under Obama dimished. Until finally we had positive jobs being created! Which is good for America and bad for Republicans (as they DID become 'The Party of No!').
The economy contuines to get better. Americans are finding jobs a bit easier now than under the Bush Administration. And we are able to fix some of the problems that landed this nation in that hole in the first place (mainly restoring regulations removed during the Bush Admin.). You can complain and bitch all you want DS; but the people you'll vote for in the election next fall are the folks that got this nation into so many problems to begin with. Recall those 'Stem Cell Research' that came up during the Bush Administration? How conservatives were to dumb to realize that those stem cells had absolutely no chance of becoming human, but that we should ban the research nationwide all the same? Yeah, other countries put money into that research and pulled ahead of the nation. Do we see/hear any of you conservatives take ownership for allowing the nation to fall behind on scientific research? Of courese not! The day conservatives hold themselves and their elected officals to the same level of accountibility and responsibility as they slam President Obama on an hourly basis, is not likely to happen in my lifetime!
How much does it cost us taxpayers, DS, for a bill to reach the US House of Representatives, pass, and only to fail in the US Senate because House Republicans care not to pass something both sides would agree to, but for political points (to see they 'passed' the stuff they promised)? Because the House Republicans have done this a few hundred times. I'd imagine its costing us quite a bit of money to allow the Republicans to massage their ego's and accomplish nothing. Funny.....Where are all those fiscal conservatives that bitch about President Obama doing something? They're to busy figuring out how to blame Obama for wasting $10 million on war veteran's health coverage to notice money being wasted by House Republicans. You want to be taken seriously? Hold your elected officals that you both vote and cheer for to TWICE the accountibility and responsibility as you bash Mr. Obama and the Democrats.
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