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CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 4:16:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Darn near anything is possible.

I recently started doing this again and it's working out to be a great situation.  I'm mentoring her as a Domme and I'm helping to train him in his submission.  She's more of a laid back type and wanted to learn how to be a bit firmer with him, add some formal parts to his service, and become more acquainted with higher protocols.  Fortunately, he happens to be one of those submissives who really enjoys the kind of mindset that formality brings to the situation.  I'm also teaching her various topping skills along the way so that she can expand her horizons a bit and have more choices of play available to her.  Above all, I reinforce that it is their dynamic and I'm just here to give them a hand with it.

So, yes, there really are folks out there who are more than happy to help people out when they want to learn.  It's fun for all of us and it's positive for everyone involved.



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I'm informal as well...and THAT sounds like so much fun! Trying new, formal stuff just to see if I like it. Green with envy here, lol.




FrankAr -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 8:58:08 PM)

Another supposed foolish female whom thinks she has the upper hand...and I just do not understand the reason. Must be the mentality, what ever you have. How I read the line, I just did not wonder why it was written so...and did not condem it, just thought how I read it aloud it sounded better by the word couldn't.

But oh well a female with your un itelligence decided to take the little road and go from there. Oh well. Your life must be so fulfilling hey!!!!!!.....LOL.





aromanholiday -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 10:14:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
As far as I'm concerned, sexual submission is really easy. As tng said, "Do as you're told." What part of this requires training?


At times, the part of you that does not want to do as you're told.




JeffBC -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 10:23:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: aromanholiday
At times, the part of you that does not want to do as you're told.

what an interesting answer! If I may, I'd like to inquire further.

In my world, the general assumption for an adult is that they will do what is needful whether or not they want to. I'm assuming you're an adult also and yes, you know that sometimes you have to do stuff you don't want to. So that makes me wonder about what you wrote. Is there some sense of relief that you experience in your dynamics because you can be less self-disciplined because there is more external discipline?




DomRidersSwitch -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 11:14:17 PM)

I've meet some wonderful and sweet dominant men who where not looking for "relationships" but willing to mentor me and expose me to various play styles. I think like any it boils down to honesty about what you want & need with yourself and others.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 11:35:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Another supposed foolish female whom thinks she has the upper hand...and I just do not understand the reason. Must be the mentality, what ever you have. How I read the line, I just did not wonder why it was written so...and did not condem it, just thought how I read it aloud it sounded better by the word couldn't.

But oh well a female with your un itelligence decided to take the little road and go from there. Oh well. Your life must be so fulfilling hey!!!!!!.....LOL.




You wouldn't care to repeat your post in plain English? You know so that foolish females can take part in the great insights you have to share... Not all of us are fluent in mangled grammar.




LadyPact -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/7/2012 11:45:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings Chatte,

Is your sig line supposed to be...couldn't give a rats arse....or is it...could give a rats arse ? It does sound better with....couldn't...just my thought.

Frank.


Is there a specific reason you're asking a poster about a sig line in the middle of a perfectly good on topic thread, rather than just ask her via email?




Aswad -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 1:28:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: katielalah

I am seeking further training from a local Dominant who does NOT seek a further relationship. I simply want to learn to service, serve and obey a strong Dominant Master who is creative and intelligent and sane!

Is this even possible?


Depends on whether you intend to pay the air fare or not. I'm in Norway.

That answer your question?

Health,
al-Aswad.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 1:36:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: katielalah

I am seeking further training from a local Dominant who does NOT seek a further relationship. I simply want to learn to service, serve and obey a strong Dominant Master who is creative and intelligent and sane!

Is this even possible?


Depends on whether you intend to pay the air fare or not. I'm in Norway.

That answer your question?

Health,
al-Aswad.




Well, the original post said local, so as a good Master you have to check if you are local...

Oh and there's the sane issue ;) Just kidding




Aswad -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 2:02:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I find that creative and intelligent and sane men like relationships, but there should be no shortage of Desktop Doms seeking to "train" you for NSA sex.


Some of us already have relationships, and would like to have someone around with which we do not have one. At least not a romantic one. We're fine with caring on par with a pet or the like, but we're not looking to bring anyone else into an established, mature relationship with a lot of history as an equal partner. For one thing, it would be dishonest, as there is no equality between someone you just met and someone you've spent over a decade with. Also, it would only stand a chance of working if the new addition developed a mutual attachment with Ars.

There's room for different people in different roles in our lives, and I fail to see how that is somehow comparable to 'desktop domming', or how it is appropriate to imply that it is. The intention for something to be temporary is no less valid, and no more binding, than the intention for it to be permanent. Regardless of initial intent, we all discover along the way whether or not we are happy, and make our choices based on that.

Granted, "training" has some negative connotations, but if you revisit the archives, you will also find some sensible threads about it. There are two primary components to training:

(1) The process of gaining experience is the universal component, and gives you a starting point for future relationships through self discovery. Even if every dynamic is different, this is useful, because of what it teaches you about yourself, and what this allows you to do when assessing future partners.

(2) The other component of it is more controversial, and deals with quite literal training and conditioning and so forth. It's less portable between relationships, and far fewer people have the skills required, let alone the experience to apply those skills. I've done so for more than a decade, both in the context of therapy and in a lifestyle context, using my knowledge of cognitive science with good results for everyone involved.

In short, I happen to think that useful training is possible, either one of the above or both, with a suitable other. Although, of course, I agree there's no shortage of people that are about as fit to train someone as GWBjr is fit to broker peace in the middle east. But that holds true for anything in the field of human relationships.

And it shouldn't discourage someone from looking.

Health,
al-Aswad.




Aswad -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 2:11:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Well, the original post said local, so as a good Master you have to check if you are local...


While I only meant it as a way to answer in the emphatic affirmative, I will of course admit that I missed that word. Thank you for pointing it out.

quote:

Oh and there's the sane issue ;) Just kidding


Who's kidding?

I'm the poster boy for "insane and loving it... and so will you." [:D]

Health,
al-Aswad.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 4:28:37 AM)

Jesus fucking Christ on a bike, get yourself a life!!

I was talking rat's asses for pity's sake. You actually thought a post about rat's asses was *serious?*

What can I say? The only one who would take a rat's ass serious would be well...another rat.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 4:30:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


Is there a specific reason you're asking a poster about a sig line in the middle of a perfectly good on topic thread, rather than just ask her via email?




It gave him the opportunity to point out in public how "uppity" I am, which we all appreciate.




JeffBC -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 11:11:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
It gave him the opportunity to point out in public how "uppity" I am, which we all appreciate.

ROFL... like THAT needed any highlighting. Of COURSE you're uppity. Doesn't it say "sizzling spitfire" right there under your name? Your photo might be another subtle indication. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not really getting the whole "meekly submissive" vibe set from that photo.

My overall assessment was that we all failed to translate goreanese into real english -- myself included. I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish or say with that post.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 11:23:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Jesus fucking Christ on a bike, get yourself a life!!

I was talking rat's asses for pity's sake. You actually thought a post about rat's asses was *serious?*

What can I say? The only one who would take a rat's ass serious would be well...another rat.



Well, I do have a pet rat in my menagerie, and I can tell you the dogs are extremely interested in the rat's ass, but I can assure you neither I nor the dogs are offended by you not giving a rat's ass about rats asses, I think even the rat is OK with it ;)


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Lockit -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 11:56:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Another supposed foolish female whom thinks she has the upper hand...and I just do not understand the reason. Must be the mentality, what ever you have. How I read the line, I just did not wonder why it was written so...and did not condem it, just thought how I read it aloud it sounded better by the word couldn't.

But oh well a female with your un itelligence decided to take the little road and go from there. Oh well. Your life must be so fulfilling hey!!!!!!.....LOL.




Just another man thinking he can correct a woman and go off topic, simply because he thinks he can. Talk about taking the short road... What in the world possessed you to think you had the intelligence to first correct, then insult a well standing member of collar me and the forums, that has proven herself repeatedly to be intelligent, insightful and down right... knowledgeable about what we do? Ahh.. that short road.

Go back to your bridge if you think any woman on these forums is going to stand by while you make handy play at playing big bad, smart dom. If you can't tell... it soooo isn't working for you.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 2:18:37 PM)

OMG !! I love the pic !!




OsideGirl -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 2:29:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Another supposed foolish female whom thinks she has the upper hand...and I just do not understand the reason. Must be the mentality, what ever you have. How I read the line, I just did not wonder why it was written so...and did not condem it, just thought how I read it aloud it sounded better by the word couldn't.

But oh well a female with your un itelligence decided to take the little road and go from there. Oh well. Your life must be so fulfilling hey!!!!!!.....LOL.




To paraphrase: Beating your chest and telling females they're foolish, does NOT make you superior, it makes you a dickhead. (I'm sure you'll recognize it.)




FrankAr -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 6:05:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings Chatte,

Is your sig line supposed to be...couldn't give a rats arse....or is it...could give a rats arse ? It does sound better with....couldn't...just my thought.

Frank.


Is there a specific reason you're asking a poster about a sig line in the middle of a perfectly good on topic thread, rather than just ask her via email?




Greetings Pact,

Some people do tend to get abrupt when their personal life is intruded by an email concerning a topic. They sometimes do not want to get email from strangers and like to go down the road of only getting replies through the boards. I took the way of asking the question in a public board, because I like to read out loud in trying to better my pronounciation of words. I hope this answers your question.

Frank Ar.




Lockit -> RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... (4/8/2012 7:18:55 PM)

LOL... So you needed to learn how to pronounce some words and attacked another poster on their intelligence in the process. Nice work. How about we help you pronounce a couple of extra interesting words?

One starts with an F....




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