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LafayetteLady -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/1/2012 10:29:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri


I hope you're right about the FBI/DOJ, and I hope "everyone involved" includes the NBP, Spike Lee, the Rev.'s Sharpton and Jackson, and whoever originally tweeted the wrong address. Roseanne Barr is a complete idiot and that might be punishment enough. Spike Lee's punishment should be relatively light since he's already apologized to the family and paid them a settlement; the legal equivalent to a smack upside the head.


And exactly what should the New Black Panthers, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee be charged with, and by whom?

Just to show you the absolute idiocy of your statement:

Those people would be subject to a CIVIL suit, not a CRIMINAL suit, which has nothing to do with the FBI or the DOJ or the State of Florida.  There is a huge difference between the two.

They are all coming out in support of Martin's family, so they certainly would go after them.

If (when) Zimmerman is found guilty, he certainly would be lacking a case against them.

There is nothing that the FBI/DOJ or State of Florida could file against them, since while what they are doing is certainly in poor taste, it is protected under free speech.

Spike Lee COULD have had a case against him for tweeting that incorrect address of that couple, but I'm sure his paying for their hotel stay and his apology included an agreement from the couple they wouldn't file.





LafayetteLady -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/1/2012 10:32:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


I don't think so, like many Gun owners who had something horrible happen, I'm sure he's full of self recriminations. There's a big difference between fantasy gun ownership and the realities of Gun ownership / use. Learning this the hard way must really suck.


Typically that would be true, but since Zimmerman was quoted as saying he thought this all would have "blown over by now," I find it hard to believe he feels any self recrimination or even guilt.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/1/2012 10:34:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

What prior trial?

I think he may be referring to your trial and conviction of Zimmerman for having "hunted, stalked, and bagged himself a trophy buck" and for "kidnapping at gunpoint and execution," to mention only two of the many you've delivered in this ongoing circus.

K.



I've pretty much given up.  Fargle is the poster child for while marijuana should not be legalized.




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 12:09:02 AM)

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And exactly what should the New Black Panthers, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee be charged with, and by whom?


Incitement to murder, solicitation of murder, solicitiaion of kidnapping....
Or perhaps it is completely legal to offer huge rewards for the euphemistically worded "capture" of people not sought by the police.
If you're the NBP and Eric Holder is AG.

I want the KKK to issue a "Wanted" poster for Sharpton.....




LafayetteLady -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 12:55:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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And exactly what should the New Black Panthers, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee be charged with, and by whom?


Incitement to murder, solicitation of murder, solicitiaion of kidnapping....
Or perhaps it is completely legal to offer huge rewards for the euphemistically worded "capture" of people not sought by the police.
If you're the NBP and Eric Holder is AG.

I want the KKK to issue a "Wanted" poster for Sharpton.....


Actually, it isn't illegal.  If it was, no time would have been wasted for those charges.  After all, those people are all black, and as we all know, if you are black, there really isn't much else needed for a criminal charge.




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 1:24:01 AM)

I'm sure you thought that was funny.
But the proven racist is in the AGs office, not Sanford.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 3:20:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I'm sure you thought that was funny.
But the proven racist is in the AGs office, not Sanford.


Actually, yes, I was being VERY sarcastic.

And there is no proven racist in this case at all at this time.  While I'm sure it would be comforting to put this whole incident into a neat little "it was all because the kid was black" box, that is not necessarily true.

For someone who seems to keep whining about the media being skewed, and the public lacking objectivity in this case, it would seem that only applies if you don't agree with what is being said.




farglebargle -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 4:32:36 AM)

It's not about race at all, legally.

Zimmerman is negligent at best, and a murderer at worst. Either way, he can tell his sob story to a Judge, because once the essential elements for charging him with a crime are met, I don't give a shit about anything he's got to say.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 5:25:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

And exactly what should the New Black Panthers, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee be charged with, and by whom?



Just an "off-the-top-of-my-head" thought: Inciting a riot. If anyone had been hurt, there could have been a conspiracy charge (I'm speaking, specifically of Spike Lee, here) because he provided the mistaken information to thousands of people. Since it was mistaken information; wreckless endangerment.

Even had it been the correct address, what was Lee's intent? For the people receiving the information to hold a "candle light vigil" outside Zimmerman's house?

I know little about the NBP but, Jackson, Sharpton, and Lee have called for violence toward several people in the past. Sure, it's been couched but the intent was never tough to figure out.

Hell, the phrase: "No justice. No peace" implies breaking the law "disturbing the peace". But, let's face it; it's not politically correct to call these particular people what they are because they're part of a "protected" class.

The three "wise men" previously mentioned have repeatedly shown themselves to be race baiting, divisive, hate-mongering pricks and while I wish harm on no one, I'll shed no tears - actually, I'll breathe a sigh of relief - when any one of them goes to meet their maker.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




DesideriScuri -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 5:26:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle
It's not about race at all, legally.
Zimmerman is negligent at best, and a murderer at worst. Either way, he can tell his sob story to a Judge, because once the essential elements for charging him with a crime are met, I don't give a shit about anything he's got to say.


It could be a hate crime if they can prove he was motivated by Trayvon's race. Other than that - and this admission worries me (Ha!) - I agree with you.




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman will be charged, tried and found guilty. (4/2/2012 5:36:38 AM)

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whining about the media being skewed, and the public lacking objectivity in this case


Actually, of course, this little subplot had nothing to do with either of those strawmen; but only with the fact the avowed racists of the NBP seem immune to prosecution under this AG>




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